UND @ NDSU 11/19/2022

[Siouxperman8]

1 hour ago, Bison06 said:

Do you have video? I don’t remember this one specifically.

I believe they were getting up after the whistle/play and the defender grabbed under his upper leg and flipped him on his back again.  Was enough to draw a fog but they picked it up. 
wouldn’t have changed the game but should have stuck with the flag. 

[wheelsup]

26 minutes ago, Siouxperman8 said:

I believe they were getting up after the whistle/play and the defender grabbed under his upper leg and flipped him on his back again.  Was enough to draw a fog but they picked it up. 
wouldn’t have changed the game but should have stuck with the flag. 

Ill have to go back and watch that play.. I remember it a little different and thought the officials did the right thing. I think there was a question as to if Maag was even down on the play and I thought the dback did what he needed to do.  I also wouldnt have had a problem if Maag had plowed him over after that happened.

[JohnboyND7]

2 minutes ago, wheelsup said:

Ill have to go back and watch that play.. I remember it a little different and thought the officials did the right thing. I think there was a question as to if Maag was even down on the play and I thought the dback did what he needed to do.  I also wouldnt have had a problem if Maag had plowed him over after that happened.

I think there was confusion whether the guy was down or the play was over.

[Sioux94]

I did actually take a short clip of it last night when watching. Geaux_Sioux respect your opinion but I disagree on this one, not a case of Maag being soft, this should have been a penalty.  I guess you could maybe say the DB didn't think the play was over....but I'm not buying that. 

[The Sicatoka]

When that wasn't called, I knew. 

[jdub27]

21 minutes ago, Sioux94 said:

I did actually take a short clip of it last night when watching. Geaux_Sioux respect your opinion but I disagree on this one, not a case of Maag being soft, this should have been a penalty.  I guess you could maybe say the DB didn't think the play was over....but I'm not buying that.

That's not how yo utake a guy down if you think the play isn't over....

[The Sicatoka]

On 11/22/2022 at 8:11 AM, Siouxperfan7 said:

Can someone go back and tell me how many screen passes UND attempted last weekend against the Bison?>  I fell it was lower than usual. Need to get back to that type of game where Tommy dumps it off and lets our playmakers go make a play.  

NDSU's DEs play a "rush upfield" style. That fills the lane a WR screen ball needs to fly through. If they get a hand on one, nothing good follows. 

[geaux_sioux]

24 minutes ago, Sioux94 said:

I did actually take a short clip of it last night when watching. Geaux_Sioux respect your opinion but I disagree on this one, not a case of Maag being soft, this should have been a penalty.  I guess you could maybe say the DB didn't think the play was over....but I'm not buying that. 

He didn’t think the play was over. It was questionable that he was down to me. My issue is that he holds his hands up and looks at the refs instead of showing the DB that he will be the alpha all day. He got punked. Get in his face, don’t shove him, but let him know.

[Bison06]

Ok now I remember this play. Call me a homer here, but I see this as the DB not thinking Maag was down, which it appears he actually wasn’t. Maag reacted as a player who wasn’t giving himself up when he popped up, the DB interpreted him popping up as him trying to continue running and finished the tackle. I don’t see any issue here.

[Bison06]

And if you think Maag wasn’t going to continue to run, where exactly do you say he was going here when he continues running? He didn’t run towards an official or even turn his attention to the official to hand the ball. My take is Maag didn’t think he was down either and planned to run up the field.

[JohnboyND7]

A 4 second clip is a bit short.

[BarnWinterSportsEngelstad]

4 minutes ago, JohnboyND7 said:

A 4 second clip is a bit short.

kind of like little?

[forksandspoons]

13 minutes ago, Bison06 said:

Ok now I remember this play. Call me a homer here, but I see this as the DB not thinking Maag was down, which it appears he actually wasn’t. Maag reacted as a player who wasn’t giving himself up when he popped up, the DB interpreted him popping up as him trying to continue running and finished the tackle. I don’t see any issue here.

Agree 

[Sioux94]

Let's try this again 

[Nodak78]

2 minutes ago, Sioux94 said:

Let's try this again 

That is more like I remember BS not getting the call.

[UNDBIZ]

Maag's elbows were down and possibly a knee and a hip.  It looks like Maag is attempting to run towards the middle of the field (the huddle) rather than up the sideline.  Bison #1's body language says he was upset about Maag catching a ball, not that he was trying to make a tackle.

[Sioux94]

35 minutes ago, jdub27 said:

That's not how yo utake a guy down if you think the play isn't over....

EXACTLY this.  And Maag did get up quick yes, but he was not trying to run towards the goal line.  Also.....when did they change the rules so that the whistle can be blown and the play is over......that as long as in the defenders mind.....they didn't think the play was over.....it's ok to hit someone.  Wasn't aware of that new rule.   But the most telling thing I think is what you said, that is not how you tackle someone when yo think the play is live, he was just f'ing with him.  

[Bison06]

We’ll have to agree to disagree on this one. It’s questionable, but I think if the players were reversed, you’d all be arguing the other side of this one.

[Nodak78]

1 minute ago, Bison06 said:

We’ll have to agree to disagree on this one. It’s questionable, but I think if the players were reversed, you’d all be arguing the other side of this one.

No we wouldn't it was cheap.

[Bison06]

4 minutes ago, Nodak78 said:

No we wouldn't it was cheap.

I’ve been trying to be objective here. Call it questionable if you want, but a cheap shot? Not even close. 
If I’m that corner I’m doing the same thing. You keep running, you’re gonna get hit. No question.

[geaux_sioux]

I’m with @Bison06 on this one. 

[JohnboyND7]

2 minutes ago, Nodak78 said:

No we wouldn't it was cheap.

You and the average bear have very different definitions of what is "cheap" apparently.

 

[Siouxperman8]

21 minutes ago, Bison06 said:

I’ve been trying to be objective here. Call it questionable if you want, but a cheap shot? Not even close. 
If I’m that corner I’m doing the same thing. You keep running, you’re gonna get hit. No question.

I stand by my first post.  Wasn’t the worst thing in the world but was worthy of a penalty and should have stuck with the flag. 
a little questionable with Maag popping up but the play was over. Maag looks like he was extending the ball to flip to the referee. 

[Bison06]

6 minutes ago, Siouxperman8 said:

I stand by my first post.  Wasn’t the worst thing in the world but was worthy of a penalty and should have stuck with the flag. 
a little questionable with Maag popping up but the play was over. Maag looks like he was extending the ball to flip to the referee. 

Fair enough.

What is your assessment of why the flag was picked up?

[UND1983]

Let's move on ladies.