The Sicatoka Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 25 minutes ago, Bison06 said: Wentz didn’t start until he was a junior ... Unless my recollections are shot (very possible, and too lazy to look at records)... - Wentz played for an injured Jensen. - Stick played for an injured Wentz. Pipeline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Midwestern Hawk said: The best RB(Cofield) transferred, ... Why are players transferring out of the perennial best team in the nation? Jumping to pro money? Sure. But transfer? That doesn't make sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison06 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, Midwestern Hawk said: The best RB(Cofield) transferred, his backup(Wilson) was hurt in first spring game. Many would argue Wilson would have beat him out or they would have split time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison06 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: Unless my recollections are shot (very possible, and too lazy to look at records)... - Wentz played for an injured Jensen. - Stick played for an injured Wentz. Pipeline. But not as a sophomore, that’s what you’re missing. Wentz went down his senior year and I don’t recall when Jensen got hurt or if he did even. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Bison06 said: But not as a sophomore, that’s what you’re missing. I can accept that. I'm used to (as hockey fan) expecting to lose top end talent as sophomores and expect the team to plan accordingly. In fairness, one thing that hurt UND Hockey in recent years was Tyson Jost bailing after a freshman season. (It blipped the pipeline and it hurt his development.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, Bison06 said: ... I don’t recall when Jensen got hurt or if he did even. Back in the day I worked with a guy who said Wentz should be playing over Jensen. (Pipeline.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodak651 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 1 minute ago, The Sicatoka said: I can accept that. I'm used to (as hockey fan) expecting to lose top end talent as sophomores and expect the team to plan accordingly. In fairness, one thing that hurt UND Hockey in recent years was Tyson Jost bailing after a freshman season. (It blipped the pipeline and it hurt his development.) That had been Lucia's/Gopher hockey issue for a long time until Motzko. Maybe NDSU has pulled a Gophers Football and stopped offering as much local talent as they should? Have the transfers been local guys, or guys from out of the region? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midwestern Hawk Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 9 minutes ago, Bison06 said: Many would argue Wilson would have beat him out or they would have split time. Maybe but Cofield started in the fall game. He hasn't been the only RB to transfer either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison06 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: Back in the day I worked with a guy who said Wentz should be playing over Jensen. (Pipeline.) I think it’s fair to say he had much more raw talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 NDSU lists 5 seniors and 13 juniors starting in their two deep. How is that young? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison06 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, UND1983 said: NDSU lists 5 seniors and 13 juniors starting in their two deep. How is that young? 18/44=40% 60% of two deep is underclassmen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 @Bison06 Is NDSU's offensive line as good as the teams' of the previous decade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: @Bison06 Is NDSU's offensive line as good as the teams' of the previous decade? They are young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison06 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: @Bison06 Is NDSU's offensive line as good as the teams' of the previous decade? They don’t appear to be to my eye, not quite the push we’ve gotten in the run game. In pass protection it’s hard to say for sure because we’ve had such mobile QB’s up until this year to make up for any weaknesses across the o line in pass coverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison06 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 1 minute ago, homer said: They are young. Excuses! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 15 minutes ago, Bison06 said: 18/44=40% 60% of two deep is underclassmen Starting. That's pretty good to have 18/24 listed starters being upperclassmen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison06 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 1 minute ago, UND1983 said: Starting. That's pretty good to have 18/24 listed starters being upperclassmen. Got it, I misread your post. I would agree, that’s a fair amount of upperclassmen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 What’s Und’s starting ratio? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midwestern Hawk Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 https://www.iheart.com/podcast/139-paul-allen-kfan-fm-1003-26980875/# Paul Allen interviews Entz starting around 1:30 in. Mostly about spring football and Trey Lantz but asks Entz about the "juggernaut" that is SIU and how they got beat so badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midwestern Hawk Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 23 minutes ago, gfhockey said: What’s Und’s starting ratio? 21 of 44 in the UND 2 deep are jr/sr 48% (vs WIU) 52% underclassmen vs 52% for NDSU. That includes Gee and not either Weah or Skokna(3 RB listed) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperfan7 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 2 hours ago, The Sicatoka said: Stauss goes down, Jensen comes off the sideline (not next year, the sideline). Jensen goes down, Wentz comes off sideline. Wentz goes down, Stick comes off sideline. Stick goes down, Lance comes off sideline. If any of those guys had bolted (save for Lance) it really was "next man up"; the early departure plan was already brewed in. But where's the guy to come off the sideline for Lance? NDSU has had a marvelous QB plan/pipeline for a decade, but there's a hole after Lance (unless it's VT guy this fall and it may well be). What changed? Somebody broke from the NDSU QB plan. Remember when there was actually a QB battle for the starting job before the 2019 Season for NDSU between Zeb and Trey?!! Wow. That almost seams laughable now!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnboyND7 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Siouxperfan7 said: Remember when there was actually a QB battle for the starting job before the 2019 Season for NDSU between Zeb and Trey?!! Wow. That almost seams laughable now!! Either it wasn't close or Zeb is a Thursday all-american lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 37 minutes ago, Midwestern Hawk said: 21 of 44 in the UND 2 deep are jr/sr 48% (vs WIU) 52% underclassmen vs 52% for NDSU. That includes Gee and not either Weah or Skokna(3 RB listed) So we are tied for youth? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FightingSioux87 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 5 hours ago, Midwestern Hawk said: Tell me reading the last few paragraphs doesn't get the blood flowing... https://www.inforum.com/bison-media-zone/mens-sports/football/6937423-McFeely-NDSU-UND-rivalry-regains-heat-faster-than-expected#.YFHpVr7aeKM.twitter What's funny to me is that he has to even say that NDSU has moved on from UND, like we NEED NDSU in order to survive the FCS ourselves. NDSU bolted to a higher division, because UND had started to gain momentum in the rivalry and was afraid of that and wanted to separate themselves from UND. To say NDSU and their fans have moved on and don't/won't see UND as a rivalry anymore, due to the FCS championship and FBS games, is laughable. Of course NDSU and their vans don't/won't want to see UND as a rival. We will always be one of their biggest threats to success. Sooner of later UND will catch up to them and then they will want to try bolt to the MWC to separate themselves from UND once again. To clarify...I am reacting to McFeely's article. I am not saying no NDSU fans still see this game as a rivalry game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Bison06 said: But not as a sophomore, that’s what you’re missing. Wentz went down his senior year and I don’t recall when Jensen got hurt or if he did even. I don’t remember Jensen getting hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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