Green Banner Posted January 13, 2022 Posted January 13, 2022 It would be nice if Dom and the boys would give UND some love since WDAY is our de facto news outlet. Better yet bring back DAZ
Bison06 Posted January 13, 2022 Posted January 13, 2022 21 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: Name the teams that got left out who actually had a shot to win it all. If there’s a single team I’d be surprised. https://sports.betmgm.com/en/blog/10-biggest-college-football-point-spread-upsets-2021/ This is just from this year. Going into these games, nobody would’ve given any of them a legit shot. 1
SIOUXFAN97 Posted January 13, 2022 Posted January 13, 2022 1 hour ago, geaux_sioux said: March madness is totally different. You can get far riding like 6 guys in basketball. Much harder to take out the big dogs in football. butler with the side part guy....one half court bank shot from winning at natty.....
Sioux>Bison Posted January 13, 2022 Posted January 13, 2022 13 hours ago, SiouxBoys said: Dom Izzo being one of them. Dom really needs to work on his play by play skills……. His delivery doesn’t really scream FBS.
Sioux>Bison Posted January 13, 2022 Posted January 13, 2022 12 hours ago, Bison06 said: I think you’ve outlined pretty well the massive challenges associated with a move up to FBS and the reasons why NDSU may never make the move. Though I hope they do, even if we have to suffer for years in a G5 conference, all the while hoping to become attractive enough for a P5 conference eventually. So when is NDSU going to magically raise their enrollment to 30k, 40k, 50k? Or even to 20k? Are more students going to be clamoring to get to good ole Fargo once you tack on hundreds of dollars in student fees? NDSU isn’t a private university so they need to have a respectable enrollment like the rest of the P5 land grant schools. At this point the P5 is just as much a possibility for UND as it is for NDSU……… 0.00001% chance! Research, Academics, Enrollment, Athletics all need to drastically improve to ever become a P5 school. NDSU can’t even get a G5 invite so let’s start there before even considering a potential P5 move!
Bison06 Posted January 13, 2022 Posted January 13, 2022 44 minutes ago, Sioux>Bison said: So when is NDSU going to magically raise their enrollment to 30k, 40k, 50k? Or even to 20k? Are more students going to be clamoring to get to good ole Fargo once you tack on hundreds of dollars in student fees? NDSU isn’t a private university so they need to have a respectable enrollment like the rest of the P5 land grant schools. At this point the P5 is just as much a possibility for UND as it is for NDSU……… 0.00001% chance! Research, Academics, Enrollment, Athletics all need to drastically improve to ever become a P5 school. NDSU can’t even get a G5 invite so let’s start there before even considering a potential P5 move! These exact conversation were had as NDSU transitioned to DI if you’re old enough to remember. See my post above, G5 first then P5 is the scenario I laid out. So I agree with you. The landscape is ever changing, a lot can happen over the course of a couple of decades.
geaux_sioux Posted January 13, 2022 Posted January 13, 2022 11 hours ago, Bison06 said: https://sports.betmgm.com/en/blog/10-biggest-college-football-point-spread-upsets-2021/ This is just from this year. Going into these games, nobody would’ve given any of them a legit shot. How many of these were playoff games. That is what my point is about. You don’t catch teams sleeping in the FBS playoffs. You got a list of FBS playoff upsets? I’d love to see it.
homer Posted January 13, 2022 Posted January 13, 2022 9 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: How many of these were playoff games. That is what my point is about. You don’t catch teams sleeping in the FBS playoffs. You got a list of FBS playoff upsets? I’d love to see it. “If” all those teams made the playoffs. And “If” those regular season games were playoff games. “If” those playoff games weren’t at neutral sites and at the same locations. Than maybe…….. 1
USTBench Posted January 13, 2022 Posted January 13, 2022 12 hours ago, geaux_sioux said: How many years have there been 3 legit contenders in the last 21 years of FBS football? In can come up with that one Auburn team from like 2003 or so as a legit third team. Who cares? It's fun, meaningful football. Rather watch a team scratch and claw to make a quarterfinal than sleepwalk through the Meineke Car Care Bowl. And at some point, there will be an upset.
The Sicatoka Posted January 13, 2022 Posted January 13, 2022 16 hours ago, Bison06 said: He’s generating interest, he’s being provocative, he’s driving conversations, he’s riling up “haters” and probably gaining Twitter followers. Why do you think people in his position would even take the time to tweet if they weren’t furthering that goal. He's setting click (and radio show callers) bait, and some bit. 1 1
jdub27 Posted January 13, 2022 Posted January 13, 2022 25 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: He's setting click (and radio show callers) bait, and some bit. Intriguing strategery insulting a portion of your listeners/followers by calling them "rubes" and basically saying they aren't smart enough to understand the stupid thing you said. Things must not be going great if he's venturing into McFeely territory. His takes are definitely starting to fall outside the bounds of media or journalism and into opinion or fan.
UND1983 Posted January 13, 2022 Posted January 13, 2022 I really think you guys are giving Dom more credit than he deserves, he believes this stuff much like a fan would. Cause he is. 2
FlinFlan80 Posted January 13, 2022 Posted January 13, 2022 Dom is a beat writer. He's an NDSU beat writer who is under the thumb of the NDSU coaching staff and doesn't say anything without getting the "ok" from them. If you don't believe this, your delusional. He does a fine job covering ND HS athletics, but once he enters the FCS territory, well then he isn't an unbiased member of the media. He is is an NDSU homer, which is smart for his current job.
The Sicatoka Posted January 13, 2022 Posted January 13, 2022 23 minutes ago, jdub27 said: Intriguing strategery insulting a portion of your listeners/followers by calling them "rubes" and basically saying they aren't smart enough to understand the stupid thing you said. Things must not be going great if he's venturing into McFeely territory. His takes are definitely starting to fall outside the bounds of media or journalism and into opinion or fan. Any press is good press ... as long as you spell my Twitter handle correctly.
SiouxHawkGuy Posted January 13, 2022 Posted January 13, 2022 Maybe UND can take NDSUs spot in the MW when NDSU eventually makes their way into the SEC
jdub27 Posted January 13, 2022 Posted January 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, FlinFlan80 said: Dom is a beat writer. He's an NDSU beat writer who is under the thumb of the NDSU coaching staff and doesn't say anything without getting the "ok" from them. If you don't believe this, your delusional. But....but....but he said that he says lots of things that the NDSU brass probably doesn't appreciate or approve of!! Are you saying he wasn't telling the truth??
UND1983 Posted January 13, 2022 Posted January 13, 2022 1 minute ago, jdub27 said: But....but....but he said that he says lots of things that the NDSU brass probably doesn't appreciate or approve of!! Are you saying he wasn't telling the truth?? That was the best part. Name ONE thing Dom that you said that was actually critical and negative about NDSU football. Just one.
Bison06 Posted January 13, 2022 Posted January 13, 2022 1 hour ago, geaux_sioux said: How many of these were playoff games. That is what my point is about. You don’t catch teams sleeping in the FBS playoffs. You got a list of FBS playoff upsets? I’d love to see it. They’ve never had the opportunity either. Can’t happen under the current structure. On paper, Georgia and Alabama would dominate Houston or Utah or Boise St. But any given Saturday as they say.
homer Posted January 13, 2022 Posted January 13, 2022 14 minutes ago, UND1983 said: That was the best part. Name ONE thing Dom that you said that was actually critical and negative about NDSU football. Just one. It would likely be from 12 years ago and than Bohl locked all the media out of a Saturday scrimmage and issued knee pads for when they were ready to come back.
FlinFlan80 Posted January 13, 2022 Posted January 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bison06 said: They’ve never had the opportunity either. Can’t happen under the current structure. On paper, Georgia and Alabama would dominate Houston or Utah or Boise St. But any given Saturday as they say. Ya ya ya "Any given Saturday..." Yadayadayada......... If FBS playoffs go to 8 teams or 12 teams it is simply because they will make out better financially. Everyone was excited when it went to 4, well the semi final games have all been complete snoozers. If they expand and use an auto bid format it will be even worse. I'm not against them expanding, but simply take the best 12 teams in the nation. If that means 4 SEC teams and 4 B10 teams, well if they are the best they are the best. Also, Utah isn't in the same category as Houston or Boise St. They are a P5 team. I'm just waiting for the P5 conferences to give the middle finger to the NCAA and break off. The group of 5 conferences are just FCS schools with an FBS title. The MAC and the MVFC are pretty similar.
Bison Dan Posted January 13, 2022 Posted January 13, 2022 41 minutes ago, UND1983 said: That was the best part. Name ONE thing Dom that you said that was actually critical and negative about NDSU football. Just one. Name one for Tom Terrific.
UND1983 Posted January 13, 2022 Posted January 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Bison Dan said: Name one for Tom Terrific. Another Simple Dan Whataboutism
Bison06 Posted January 13, 2022 Posted January 13, 2022 30 minutes ago, FlinFlan80 said: Ya ya ya "Any given Saturday..." Yadayadayada......... If FBS playoffs go to 8 teams or 12 teams it is simply because they will make out better financially. Everyone was excited when it went to 4, well the semi final games have all been complete snoozers. If they expand and use an auto bid format it will be even worse. I'm not against them expanding, but simply take the best 12 teams in the nation. If that means 4 SEC teams and 4 B10 teams, well if they are the best they are the best. Also, Utah isn't in the same category as Houston or Boise St. They are a P5 team. I'm just waiting for the P5 conferences to give the middle finger to the NCAA and break off. The group of 5 conferences are just FCS schools with an FBS title. The MAC and the MVFC are pretty similar. Ya da ya da yada? Why even watch sports if there isn’t drama and surprises, the whole point of watching is you don’t know how things will play out isn’t it? I’m amazed at how cynical some here are about the possibility of upsets. For me they are the main thing that makes sports worth watching. If we knew for sure who would win a game before it starts, that would be a pretty boring game.
geaux_sioux Posted January 13, 2022 Posted January 13, 2022 49 minutes ago, Bison06 said: They’ve never had the opportunity either. Can’t happen under the current structure. On paper, Georgia and Alabama would dominate Houston or Utah or Boise St. But any given Saturday as they say. Yea, any given Saturday Bama and Georgia from this year would beat those three teams by 40. I’m assuming you watched that game. Those two teams were playing on a different level than all other college teams. 1
FlinFlan80 Posted January 13, 2022 Posted January 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, Bison06 said: Ya da ya da yada? Why even watch sports if there isn’t drama and surprises, the whole point of watching is you don’t know how things will play out isn’t it? I’m amazed at how cynical some here are about the possibility of upsets. For me they are the main thing that makes sports worth watching. If we knew for sure who would win a game before it starts, that would be a pretty boring game. I love upsets. I follow Minnesota profesional sports and UND football. Every win that "my teams" get is considered an upset. I am simply being realistic. The NCAA is a business driven by money. If the figures don't match up, we will never get an expanded playoffs. If they can make more money by expanding, then they will expand until they can't anymore. I think what upsets UND fans the most (besides NDSU's success because its a rivalry and no one wants their rival to succeed) Is the unrealistic fans that think if NDSU transitions it will be smooth and butter and they will continue their dominance. I'm not even going bring up the "We want Bama" crowd.
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