2020 Dumpster Fire (Enter at your own risk)

[zonadub]

5 hours ago, Teeder11 said:

Very little apparently. Other than players have flip flopped. Same divide. Different year. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.  Won’t be long until “Not my President” chorus from the right side of the tabernacle. 

 

5 hours ago, MafiaMan said:

So Republicans are mobilizing and rioting in the streets today?  Our “news media” folks behind the teleprompters are crying on the air?  

And the Republicans won’t launch a 3 year investigation in trying to find something... anything... to file impeachment charges instead of doing what they have been sent to Washington to do.

On second thought, maybe that was a good thing... kept them distracted  

[UNDlaw80]

4 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

2000: Some called it for Gore. 

 

Some called Florida for Gore, but I don't recall the media ever reporting Gore won the Presidency.  I could be wrong though.  

[The Sicatoka]

5 minutes ago, UNDlaw80 said:

 

Some called Florida for Gore, but I don't recall the media ever reporting Gore won the Presidency.  I could be wrong though.  

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15 minutes ago, Goon said:

 

I try to look at this stuff objectively, but Trumps claims of fraud are certainly not baseless. I guess the debate is to what extent the fraud extends. Is it enough to change the election? Dems say no, republicans say yes. Reality...we’ll never know. 

[UNDlaw80]

The problem with Trump's argument is that he was crying foul even before a single vote was cast.  Everybody knew his gameplan was to question the integrity of the voting process if/when he lost.  He's been telegraphing it for months.  

 

 

 

[Goon]

7 minutes ago, Username Taken said:

I try to look at this stuff objectively, but Trumps claims of fraud are certainly not baseless. I guess the debate is to what extent the fraud extends. Is it enough to change the election? Dems say no, republicans say yes. Reality...we’ll never know. 

No doubt there’s fraud.

 

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6 minutes ago, UNDlaw80 said:

The problem with Trump's argument is that he was crying foul even before a single vote was cast.  Everybody knew his gameplan was to question the integrity of the voting process if/when he lost.  He's been telegraphing it for months.  

 

 

 

I agree that Trump wasn’t ever going to accept a loss fair or unfair, but I don’t think Trumps warning about fraud should cause us to put the blinders on and ignore the fact that it is happening. 

[UNDlaw80]

15 minutes ago, Username Taken said:

I try to look at this stuff objectively, but Trumps claims of fraud are certainly not baseless. I guess the debate is to what extent the fraud extends. Is it enough to change the election? Dems say no, republicans say yes. Reality...we’ll never know. 

Fraud exists in every election.  However, historically speaking the number is negligible.  It's almost impossible to pull off a mass and high volume fraudulent act. Especially nowadays with so much access to the information.  

[Oxbow6]

8 minutes ago, UNDlaw80 said:

The problem with Trump's argument is that he was crying foul even before a single vote was cast.  Everybody knew his gameplan was to question the integrity of the voting process if/when he lost.  He's been telegraphing it for months.  

 

 

 

Yup........cause no one else would have thought that having mass voting by mail because of COVID with different ballot counting scenarios state to state would have turned in a raging dumpster fire.

[homer]

1 minute ago, UNDlaw80 said:

Fraud exists in every election.  However, historically speaking the number is negligible.  It's almost impossible to pull off a mass and high volume fraudulent act.   

Even when ballots are sent out in the quantities they were this year?  

[homer]

44 minutes ago, SiouxFan100 said:

As I watch the crowds celebrating tonight I can’t but notice how different the crowd looks as opposed to the Trump campaign crowds.

Cause the people that voted for Trump likely aren’t out there.  What’s your point?  

[Oxbow6]

2 minutes ago, UNDlaw80 said:

Fraud exists in every election.  However, historically speaking the number is negligible.  It's almost impossible to pull off a mass and high volume fraudulent act. Especially nowadays with so much access to the information.  

Will hope this ages well.

[homer]

1 minute ago, Oxbow6 said:

Yup........cause no one else would have thought that having mass voting by mail because of COVID with different ballot counting scenarios state to state would have turned in a raging dumpster fire.

The dems want everyone to think this was a normal election.   

[Oxbow6]

Just now, homer said:

The dems want everyone to think this was a normal election.   

Which they will try to carry over to the two Georgia senate runoffs. Remember  when Stacey Abrams wanted a recount when her election was way more legit than what we just witnessed. 

 

BTW does she still introduce herself  as Gov. Abrams or has she let that go yet?

[Frozen4sioux]

1 hour ago, AlphaMikeFoxtrot said:

Let's not pretend farm laborers aren't replaceable by robots in the near future.

Very important distinction, some could argue that the migrant farm laborforce is dramatically cheaper than robots.

Farms will always have owners, I mean how would the lake home industry survive?

unless your advocating soviet style state farms......

[Username Taken]

19 minutes ago, UNDlaw80 said:

Fraud exists in every election.  However, historically speaking the number is negligible.  It's almost impossible to pull off a mass and high volume fraudulent act. Especially nowadays with so much access to the information.  

There doesn’t need to be mass high volume fraud to throw off this election. Maybe it’s a coincidence that all the fraud issues I’ve seen benefit one party across multiple states. Just FYI, I’m talking about the fraud issues that garner a response from election officials. I don’t pay much attention to the fraud claims on Uncle Bob’s Facebook page. 

[UNDlaw80]

4 hours ago, Oxbow6 said:

Will hope this ages well.

 

4 hours ago, homer said:

The dems want everyone to think this was a normal election.   

 

If the slightest indication of mass fraud existed the GOP would be all over it.   They're not.  Trump's lackeys are the only ones parading this nonsense; presenting small bits of unverified information.  The GOP, as a collective, is NOT backing Trump's claim.          

This is just another "just wait..it's coming" threat.  Trump making noise.  No different than the Biden scandal, Hillary's emails (he said he gonna release them), the cure for Covid, etc.  The only people who buy it are the Trump Trash.     Donny is finished.  It's over.     

The past few pages have been an interesting read.   You can tell who the Republicans are, and who the cult followers are.   

[Oxbow6]

End of October unemployment numbers dropped to 6.9%. My guess is unemployment will hit double digits again by April......possibly sooner.

[UND1983]

Not a super-spreader event at all.....

[homer]

8 minutes ago, UNDlaw80 said:

 

 

If there existed the lightest indication of mass fraud, the GOP would be parading it like crazy.  They're not.  It's Trump's lackeys who are parading small bits of unverified information.  The majority of the GOP is NOT backing Trump on his claim.      

This is just another "just wait..it's coming" threat, typical Trump style.  No different than the Biden scandal, Hillary's emails (he said he gonna release them), the cure for Covid.  His supporters eat it up like candy.  But the truth is Trump is finished.  It's over.  Only the hanger-ons remain.        

The past few pages have been interesting to read.  You can tell who the Republicans are, and who the Trump cult is.  

Only democrats believe the govt is going to supply a cure for a virus.  

 

[Oxbow6]

5 minutes ago, UND1983 said:

Not a super-spreader event at all.....

This shows what a f-n joke CNN is. They have been nothing but a Covid fear porn network from day one. Now they are blurting nothing but excuses for these mass celebratory gatherings.

[SiouxFan100]

Trump cult - no

Pre Trump republican - yes

[Wilbur]

Did Kamala ever take back the whole "She believes Joe Biden sexual harassment/inappropriate touching accusers"? 

I watched the video of her saying she believed them way back when.  Did she ever rescind that statement?

[SiouxFan100]

Imho

it was too important to get rid of Trump even if having to put up with Biden for four years. That’s why it so important for Republican to maintain the senate To limit the damage. Then, get a traditional Republican candidate to run four years from now.

 I think Trump did many good things but I feel he was a threat to our democracy. IMO 

[AlphaMikeFoxtrot]

37 minutes ago, Frozen4sioux said:

Very important distinction, some could argue that the migrant farm laborforce is dramatically cheaper than robots.

Farms will always have owners, I mean how would the lake home industry survive?

unless your advocating soviet style state farms......

True, and those laborers work very hard, be it the owners or the hired help. Although family farms are numbered fewer and fewer compared to corporate farms, which makes it harder to relate to and sympathize with farmers.