Bison06 Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 10 minutes ago, wxman91 said: Not really. The idea today is that there is this "silent majority" out there that are Trump supporters but won't tell pollsters about it. That didn't happen in any relevant fashion in 2016. It was a very close election, the polls were pretty good, and the undecideds broke towards the challenger at the end. That's it. That's the full story. This year, the polls are not close and Trump's approval ratings are terrible across all sets of information that we have. However, I've said it here before and will say it again. Biden could very well lose. Trump has a consistent level of support and there is this weird uncertainty out there about COVID and Biden's mental acuity. What I don't think will tip the scales is the protesting/rioting. If it were Bernie, then yes, I could see the suburban support melt away. But Biden is more law & order than the leftist Dems. His two top VP candidates are a former prosecutor (who the left likes to call Cop-mala) and a National Security Advisor. Not exactly what "Antifa" would offer up. If the polls were so accurate why has there been a consistent conversation the last four years as to how they got it so wrong and how to improve polling? https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/09/why-2016-election-polls-missed-their-mark/ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/05/14/can-we-still-trust-polls/ I'm genuinely curious as you seem to be very knowledgeable on polls.
Hayduke1 Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 8 minutes ago, homer said: So you can point out I was wrong about results in 2016. That is history that Democrats can’t erase. Face it dude. I won this argument in a landslide. Lol 1
homer Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hayduke1 said: Face it dude. I won this argument in a landslide. Lol Maybe your argument will change the results of 2016. Cant wait until the debates. Seniors now looking at lowest prescription drug prices in years. 2
Popular Post SiouxBoys Posted July 27, 2020 Popular Post Posted July 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Hayduke1 said: No, you seriously believe that ones sexual orientation and ethnicity defines their political and moral stance. Yet, Roy Cohn existed. That one was low hanging fruit. Hmmm.... "If you're questioning who to vote for, me or Donald Trump, then you ain't black" - Joe Biden 7
Hayduke1 Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 9 minutes ago, SiouxBoys said: "If you're questioning who to vote for, me or Donald Trump, then you ain't black" - Joe Biden He apologized almost immediately. He will get 95% + of the Black vote. Mary Trump said Donald and family throw around the N word frequently. Black know he is a racist POS. 1
homer Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 Maybe MInnesota is in play for 2020. Was it around 45,000 votes that Trump lost the state by. People seem to feel safe based on their democratic leadership. https://www.yahoo.com/news/minneapolis-residents-forming-armed-neighborhood-124508528.html
Hayduke1 Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, homer said: Maybe MInnesota is in play for 2020. Was it around 45,000 votes that Trump lost the state by. People seem to feel safe based on their democratic leadership. https://www.yahoo.com/news/minneapolis-residents-forming-armed-neighborhood-124508528.html So. You equate this to a possible pick up for the orange one? Lol I saved it too
SiouxBoys Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, Hayduke1 said: He apologized almost immediately. He will get 95% + of the Black vote. Mary Trump said Donald and family throw around the N word frequently. Black know he is a racist POS. So there should be a lot of evidence backing up that claim then, right? I'll wait for you to find it.
Bison06 Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 12 minutes ago, Hayduke1 said: He apologized almost immediately. He will get 95% + of the Black vote. Mary Trump said Donald and family throw around the N word frequently. Black know he is a racist POS. Obama didn't even get 95% 1 1
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 Coronavirus Is Back With a Vengeance in Places Where It Had All but Vanished https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/coronavirus-is-back-with-a-vengeance-in-places-where-it-had-all-but-vanished/ar-BB17eAg9?ocid=msedgdhp
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 Target joins Walmart in staying closed for Thanksgiving this year
Bison06 Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said: Coronavirus Is Back With a Vengeance in Places Where It Had All but Vanished https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/coronavirus-is-back-with-a-vengeance-in-places-where-it-had-all-but-vanished/ar-BB17eAg9?ocid=msedgdhp So basically, the virus is going to run it's course regardless of the measures we take. Thanks, that's what many have been saying since the beginning of this. Protect the immunocompromised and elderly and let's get back to life so we can develop immunity. 1
CMSioux Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 Sister in law who is a trumplican and constantly bitching about MN governor overstepping has all the symptoms and is going in for a test - karma baby.
SIOUXFAN97 Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 45 minutes ago, Hayduke1 said: He apologized almost immediately. He will get 95% + of the Black vote. Mary Trump said Donald and family throw around the N word frequently. Black know he is a racist POS. doesn't malik obama say the same thing about barak lol
SIOUXFAN97 Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 10 minutes ago, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said: Coronavirus Is Back With a Vengeance in Places Where It Had All but Vanished https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/coronavirus-is-back-with-a-vengeance-in-places-where-it-had-all-but-vanished/ar-BB17eAg9?ocid=msedgdhp how do we know it "vanished" in these areas if these said areas were never highly tested lol
UND1983 Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, CMSioux said: Sister in law who is a trumplican and constantly bitching about MN governor overstepping has all the symptoms and is going in for a test - karma baby. You sound excited!! Congrats.
Popular Post Oxbow6 Posted July 27, 2020 Popular Post Posted July 27, 2020 11 minutes ago, CMSioux said: Sister in law who is a trumplican and constantly bitching about MN governor overstepping has all the symptoms and is going in for a test - karma baby. Karma really would be your sister in laws husband kicking the $#@% out of you for being a complete a#@hole. 5
petey23 Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 14 minutes ago, Bison06 said: So basically, the virus is going to run it's course regardless of the measures we take. Thanks, that's what many have been saying since the beginning of this. Protect the immunocompromised and elderly and let's get back to life so we can develop immunity. Well they did say that 265 million Americans would become infected with Covid 19 and that we could expect 2.2 million deaths.
homer Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Hayduke1 said: So. You equate this to a possible pick up for the orange one? Lol I saved it too Honestly yes, I do think this year provides as much of an opportunity for R’s in MN as there has ever been. Out of metro is frustrated with being lumped into he same Covid requirements as the cities. They tend to vote R anyhow but maybe get a few more votes. The article (which I did not write, only cited) shows why debates will be important. Does Biden go against party and say he’s against defunding police (costing him votes in MN which will more likely be people just not voting) or does he go with the defund police narrative (costing him votes). How many remains to be seen by how these protests shake out between now and Nov. Feel free to hang onto this as it’s only my opinion. The path for a Trump victory is still the same regardless if he wins MN. It just may give him a little room for error in another state.
wxman91 Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Bison06 said: If the polls were so accurate why has there been a consistent conversation the last four years as to how they got it so wrong and how to improve polling? https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/09/why-2016-election-polls-missed-their-mark/ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/05/14/can-we-still-trust-polls/ I'm genuinely curious as you seem to be very knowledgeable on polls. The 2nd link pretty much gives you the answer. Those who felt led astray by surveys conducted during the 2016 U.S. presidential election may be surprised to learn that national polling was generally quite accurate. National pre-election polls in 2016 indicated that Hillary Clinton would win the national popular vote by a 3-point margin, and in fact she won by 2 points. The major problem was with state-level polls, many of which missed a late swing to Trump among undecided voters and did not correct for the fact that their responding samples contained proportionally too many college-educated voters (who were more likely to favor Clinton). A silver lining is that both of these problems can be overcome, to some extent, by more rigorous survey weighting and heightened attention to the possibility of late shifts in voter preferences. 1
wxman91 Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 Already cancelling MLB games. Edit - ok, this is funny https://twitter.com/Doug_Exeter/status/1287757879697526784?s=20
homer Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 The keep him in the basement strategy Can’t wait for the debates https://www.yahoo.com/news/chris-wallace-says-biden-campaign-205028544.html is Arizona a city or state? 1
Bison06 Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 1 hour ago, homer said: The keep him in the basement strategy Can’t wait for the debates https://www.yahoo.com/news/chris-wallace-says-biden-campaign-205028544.html is Arizona a city or state? Do we honestly think there will be debates? What incentive does Biden have to do them? Keep using covid as the reason to do nothing and keep him in hiding. This gives him the best chance of winning. 2 1
Hayduke1 Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 44 minutes ago, Bison06 said: Do we honestly think there will be debates? What incentive does Biden have to do them? Keep using covid as the reason to do nothing and keep him in hiding. This gives him the best chance or winning. I kind of agree. (Seriously) His campaign has been talk when absolutely needed and let Trump be Trump. It's working.
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