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Hospitalizations and deaths don’t matter for asymptomatic counts.

Why would anyone watch cable news?

The implication that has been raised here before and now is that ND looks bad because of increased testing. And that is absolutely not the case. The positivity rate, hospitalization numbers and death count all align to being the worst in the nation. So, why is ND the worst state for COVID since the original peak in March? What is it that makes ND “special”?

Don’t need to test as much if you aren’t in the middle of a huge outbreak. Would you like to compare more concrete death and hospitalization data?

Do people in cults know that they are in cults? No reason, just asking.

I think ND was playing a dangerous game all along, and it finally got them. I don’t think it “burns through” a population though, especially with estimates of only 5% contracting the virus. Might be due to seasonal effects of people moving inside. The timing doesn’t address the problem of why the case and death rates are so high, though. Why is ND/SD’s data worse than FL/AZ was in summer?

Not disputing that. The poster said that PA was the ballgame. It isn’t. Biden won a convincing electoral college victory. The excellent turnout on both sides for this election effectively show us where we are in this country. It is a ~52/48 slight D lean country, with the Rs having advantages in the House (gerrymandering), Senate (two seats per state) and Presidency (electoral college). Dems have to win by 3-5% or more to counteract these factors. They did, barely, for the Presidency and House. The lean is more pronounced in the Senate, where some estimates say that the Ds need a +7 national win to grab the majority. All elections are effectively turnout elections with few voters crossing over.

My conjecture is that ND is an older and probably unhealthier state, and combine that with the aversion to COVID safety measures, and you get a worst in the nation case load. At least until Kristi “we shouldn’t shame anti-maskers” Noem pulls into the lead.

Yes, first wave. Then we got serious about masks and distancing. Rising some, but not seriously, as there is some COVID fatigue. Yesterday 3 people died in a state of 8+ million.

Biden won by way more than PA.

In VA, 4 out of every 10,000 people in the state has died from COVID-19. We were hit hard early on when we didn’t have a good handle of treatments and prevention. Now we do. So why have 8.5 (and quickly rising) out of every 10,000 North Dakotans died from COVID-19?

Spiking is relative compared to the Dakotas.

I’m not sure why you wouldn’t use per capita. At least in comparisons.

Hennepin has a moderate rate. Outstate areas (especially near ND) are much higher per capita. https://www.health.state.mn.us/diseases/coronavirus/stats/index.html#wcrmap1

Rural Rs and stupid college kids. Yes.

Republicans think that freedom means “!@#$ you, I do what I want”.

You can go read it.

Agree. Automatic voter registration, no-excuse absentee voting, and counting votes as they come in should be standard across the country. This absurd stolen election narrative would be dead if the votes were tabulated as they came in with Biden slaughtering Trump on the early vote.

Masks? They reduce spread. They are not a fix-all. The more people that use them the better.

He sent out a press release that effectively says that absentee voting is unconstitutional. He’s a con-man. This is what he does.

They are not perfect? Still way better than the Dakotas.

This one is for the poster who was trying to convince us that testing was the only reason why ND looked bad.

Are you serious? We want to stop COVID from making its way through society. That's the point of a vaccine.

What the vaccine news this morning does is really stick a dagger in the extraordinarily stupid idea, advanced by some (cough, Sikatoka) that COVID is just going to run roughshod over the country until herd immunity is reached and we shouldn't really do much to restrict the spread. News that the potential vaccine is promising and not in the far distant future should compel people to buckle down and avoid spread as much as possible. Pfizer's vaccine is more difficult to roll out (two doses, needs to be kept in cold storage), but it is good news for the similar types of vaccines that are being worked on.