Frozen4sioux Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 On 5/12/2020 at 5:38 PM, UNDlaw80 said: Well sure, that’s been Trump’s MoA even before his Presidency. Play the woe-is-me victim card, ruthlessly lash out against it. Unwavering. It resonates with his hard-core base (Trump dont take no $hit!!). It works for his rallies and such, but it's a disaster for press conferences. I don't think the media knows how to handle it and their subsequent actions feed into the chaos. They're to blame too. I dunno. Maybe I’m over-thinking things, but both the media and Trump’s behavior are symptoms of the bigger problem, which is us. Reality-TV culture has invaded every aspect of this country. It's disgusting. Expand I can agree with this in every way, as it pertains to national emergencies.... it is literally the playbook on how to destroy the republic 1
dlsiouxfan Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 On 5/12/2020 at 5:42 PM, UND1983 said: Do you feel his Presidency has been dare I say "underreported"? He has kind of 'flown under the radar' and gotten away with alot, perhaps? Expand Absolutely.... any other presidency would have been ended by at least a dozen of the scandals that Trump has skated on. The appointments of family members to key government positions and the flagrant self-dealing with his personal businesses would not have flown in any previous presidency either Democratic or Republican. 1
Popular Post UND1983 Posted May 12, 2020 Popular Post Posted May 12, 2020 On 5/12/2020 at 5:44 PM, dlsiouxfan said: Absolutely.... any other presidency would have been ended by at least a dozen of the scandals that Trump has skated on. The appointments of family members to key government positions and the flagrant self-dealing with his personal businesses would not have flown in any previous presidency either Democratic or Republican. Expand OMFG. Get help, real help. 7
Oxbow6 Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 On 5/12/2020 at 5:41 PM, dlsiouxfan said: I swear to god it's like you live in an alternate reality. You should really seek help for your fixation with Fauci on this. Expand How about you help me get away from my fixation and tell me a war story? You seem to have "expertise" in that category. 1
dlsiouxfan Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 On 5/12/2020 at 5:46 PM, Oxbow6 said: How about you help me get away from my fixation and tell me a war story? You seem to have "expertise" in that category. Expand I stated that the coronavirus had the potential to kill more Americans than all wars in history combined if allowed to grow exponentially. We've taken the most extraordinary measures to prevent the spread in modern history and right now the death toll would be fourth on the list of American wars and is going to surpass WWI for third on the list in a couple of weeks. You've repeatedly misstated my post because your either incapable of making a good faith argument or are extremely lacking in reading comprehension skills.
Oxbow6 Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 On 4/5/2020 at 3:44 PM, dlsiouxfan said: we're looking at casualty number in the U.S. alone that exceeds any military battle in history. Expand On 5/12/2020 at 5:52 PM, dlsiouxfan said: I stated that the coronavirus had the potential to kill more Americans than all wars in history combined if allowed to grow exponentially. We've taken the most extraordinary measures to prevent the spread in modern history and right now the death toll would be fourth on the list of American wars and is going to surpass WWI for third on the list in a couple of weeks. You've repeatedly misstated my post because your either incapable of making a good faith argument or are extremely lacking in reading comprehension skills. Expand Whatever you want your narrative to be you just keep being you.
Frozen4sioux Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 It's time for this tool of a troll to head back to the lake or bisonville or wherever else he's not been banned from already.
UNDlaw80 Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 On 5/12/2020 at 5:52 PM, dlsiouxfan said: I stated that the coronavirus had the potential to kill more Americans than all wars in history combined if allowed to grow exponentially. We've taken the most extraordinary measures to prevent the spread in modern history and right now the death toll would be fourth on the list of American wars and is going to surpass WWI for third on the list in a couple of weeks. You've repeatedly misstated my post because your either incapable of making a good faith argument or are extremely lacking in reading comprehension skills. Expand Riiiight. In no parallel universe would Covid have killed that many people by now. That said, it is crazy by the end of the month Covid will likely be the 4th deadliest event in US history behind 1918 pandemic, Civil War and WW2. To put it in perspective, at our current pace (especially now that we're opening) we'll pass Civil War casualty numbers in just under 2 years. Civil War lasted for 4 years.
yzerman19 Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 Let’s all sit in our houses until nothing bad ever happens again!
SIOUXFAN97 Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 On 5/12/2020 at 5:38 PM, Oxbow6 said: Hahaha.....good one. We both know better than that. This process is about increasing big government with an eye on socialism. Expand bingo!
UND1983 Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 On 5/12/2020 at 6:47 PM, UNDlaw80 said: Riiiight. In no parallel universe would Covid have killed that many people by now. That said, it is crazy by the end of the month Covid will likely be the 4th deadliest event in US history behind 1918 pandemic, Civil War and WW2. To put it in perspective, at our current pace (especially now that we're opening) we'll pass Civil War casualty numbers in just under 2 years. Civil War lasted for 4 years. Expand Do you feel this current pace keeps up? If not why even say that. #fearporn
SIOUXFAN97 Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 On 5/12/2020 at 5:44 PM, dlsiouxfan said: Absolutely.... any other presidency would have been ended by at least a dozen of the scandals that Trump has skated on. The appointments of family members to key government positions and the flagrant self-dealing with his personal businesses would not have flown in any previous presidency either Democratic or Republican. Expand hunter biden anyone...anyone...??? 1
tnt Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 On 5/12/2020 at 5:10 PM, Oxbow6 said: House Dems introduced another stimulus bill estimated at...........$3 TRILLION! When does this nonsense end? Oh wait.....not until Fauci says so. Expand Who can honestly look in the mirror and say that they want their kids to have a better future than they had, when they won't have a future with all the debt the country is taking on. I guess for those living in fear, there isn't much to spend money on other than TV and a psychiatrist anyway.
SIOUXFAN97 Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 On 5/12/2020 at 7:13 PM, tnt said: Who can honestly look in the mirror and say that they want their kids to have a better future than they had, when they won't have a future with all the debt the country is taking on. I guess for those living in fear, there isn't much to spend money on other than TV and a psychiatrist anyway. Expand but with socialism (when done correctly i've been told) there is nothing to worry about bc magic fairies do all the work and everyone stays at home drinking mountain and playing COD til 3am.
yzerman19 Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 On 5/12/2020 at 7:13 PM, tnt said: Who can honestly look in the mirror and say that they want their kids to have a better future than they had, when they won't have a future with all the debt the country is taking on. I guess for those living in fear, there isn't much to spend money on other than TV and a psychiatrist anyway. Expand This is where our society dies. Everything we’ve done for generations is about striving for a legacy. Striving for a better life for our families. There is an interesting play here if we repatriated industry and set a flat corporate tax....lower corporate taxes used to benefit our country by allowing for more net profit to invest in expansion (employment) that led to more growth by those employees consuming. Once business got “smart” they kept the low taxes, but off-shored jobs to further inflate margins and found every tax shelter on the planet...Apple, Amazon anyone? Now we are where we are. I cannot support increasing personal income taxes, but a corporate flat tax might be our path forward. 1
Popular Post Walsh Hall Posted May 12, 2020 Popular Post Posted May 12, 2020 I took a few minutes and reviewed the CDC weekly summary (43 pages), https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/pdf/covidview-05-08-2020.pdf, and several Midwestern state's data. My takeaway is that if you are under 60, and are healthy, the chances of death are as close to zero as you can get. Even just using the confirmed numbers, and not the presumed active cases, the risk of complications is tiny. You might be asymptomatic or you may have an awful flu, but you'll almost certainly be fine. If you have, in this order of importance: hypertension, obesity, cardiovascular disease, or lung disease, the outcome after contraction is not particularly rosy. If you are elderly and have those conditions you do not want to contract COVID. If you are 95, obese with hypertension and CD, you aren't gonna make it. More than most health issues, the "at risk" group in this case is VERY clearly defined. If you are at risk and want to live your life and assume the risks, have at it. If not, shelter those folks in place and take all reasonable steps to protect them. There is zero reason for healthy folks under 60 to be sheltering in place. 5
TheFlop Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 On 5/12/2020 at 6:47 PM, UNDlaw80 said: Riiiight. In no parallel universe would Covid have killed that many people by now. That said, it is crazy by the end of the month Covid will likely be the 4th deadliest event in US history behind 1918 pandemic, Civil War and WW2. To put it in perspective, at our current pace (especially now that we're opening) we'll pass Civil War casualty numbers in just under 2 years. Civil War lasted for 4 years. Expand To the just one lifers out there.....when comparing Covid-19 to past US war body counts, at least try and be accurate. During the Civil War, WW2, pretty much any war, the vast majority of deaths were in the 18-45/50 age range and were perfectly healthy individuals....otherwise the military wouldn't have let them join. How many perfectly healthy people has COVID-19 taken in that same age group? 4
MrEdway Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 On 5/12/2020 at 5:38 PM, UNDlaw80 said: Well sure, that’s been Trump’s MoA even before his Presidency. Play the woe-is-me victim card, ruthlessly lash out against it. Unwavering. It resonates with his hard-core base (Trump dont take no $hit!!). It works for his rallies and such, but it's a disaster for press conferences. I don't think the media knows how to handle it and their subsequent actions feed into the chaos. They're to blame too. I dunno. Maybe I’m over-thinking things, but both the media and Trump’s behavior are symptoms of the bigger problem, which is us. Reality-TV culture has invaded every aspect of this country. It's disgusting. Expand Go check out a basement Biden conference if you want to see disasters. 4
Goon Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 On 5/12/2020 at 5:10 PM, Oxbow6 said: House Dems introduced another stimulus bill estimated at...........$3 TRILLION! When does this nonsense end? Oh wait.....not until Fauci says so. Expand My question is, where does this money come from? I guess we're just going to print it.
UNDlaw80 Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 On 5/12/2020 at 7:06 PM, UND1983 said: Do you feel this current pace keeps up? If not why even say that. #fearporn Expand Initially? No. Covid is likely seasonal, so I expected it (like the flu) to subside greatly in the summer months. But this isn't happening. Here we are in May and it's just starting to spill into every nook and cranny of the country....especially now with the nation opening up. Then we probably have a heavy round 2 coming in the fall/winter coinciding with the flu. I'm not advocating lessening all restrictions, but at this point we're gonna have to accept Covid as part of life, realize a lot of people are gonna die and move forward the best we can because people need to get back to work.
TheFlop Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 Just to be extra super duper I'm gonna wear a mask when I'm by myself safe is it too early to start talking about the 3rd wave? I like to plan ahead.
petey23 Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 On 5/12/2020 at 4:02 PM, jdub27 said: I mean, "news" stations doing this pre-dates Trump. While the media/news cycle continues to evolve, I don't recall Bush or Obama reacting to anywhere near that or even trying to escalate the situation. Expand True. But with Obama the dial was at a 2. Bush was at about a 7 and they have ripped off the knob with Trump. 1
Goon Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 On 5/12/2020 at 4:42 AM, UND1983 said: Do you really think the sitting President of the United States is going to go into a red-hot ER and "visit" people? At least use your melon before you post. Expand I would imagine, that he wouldn't get in anyways. Nor should they let him in.
Popular Post Walsh Hall Posted May 12, 2020 Popular Post Posted May 12, 2020 On 3/7/2020 at 1:08 AM, iramurphy said: I get a regular update on Coronavirus from multiple sources. There is no reason to panic. If you get a cough or flu like symptoms stay home. If you are healthy there isn’t a lot to worry about. If you get it it will likely be similar to a bad cold. It can be serious for elderly and those who are immunocompromised. People in this country who have died, aren’t healthy young and middle aged people. Don’t get your info from the media. Don’t get your info from politicians including the President. The CDC has regular updates. Your doctors should be able to provide answers to your questions. Expand The post above was from March 6th. What needed to be done was known at that time by anyone with decent critical thinking skills. Unfortunately the second sentence above was not followed. Instead of not getting information from the media and politicians and not panicking, the media has been listened to and caused a colossal panic. 5
GeauxSioux Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 On 5/12/2020 at 6:47 PM, UNDlaw80 said: Riiiight. In no parallel universe would Covid have killed that many people by now. That said, it is crazy by the end of the month Covid will likely be the 4th deadliest event in US history behind 1918 pandemic, Civil War and WW2. To put it in perspective, at our current pace (especially now that we're opening) we'll pass Civil War casualty numbers in just under 2 years. Civil War lasted for 4 years. Expand An ongoing event that make your numbers pale in comparison. Granted these figures are worldwide and not just USA.
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