Oxbow6 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Again advice was given based on models and Fauci's expertise for 45 days of lockdown to do 2 things: flatten the curve so that healthcare systems were not overwhelmed (check) and save lives so 1-2M wouldn't die (check). Was a "one size fits all" mentality yet here we are...still a country without a "one size fits all" reopening. For all the really smart people out there why is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 1 minute ago, MafiaMan said: I’ve turned off the news for about a week now. Is Minnesota closing in on 74,000 deaths yet? The numbers must be off the charts by now. What did you think of Marcil's call for the government to advertise through local newspapers so they can actually make money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, MafiaMan said: I’ve turned off the news for about a week now. Is Minnesota closing in on 74,000 deaths yet? The numbers must be off the charts by now. That number isn't in jeopardy now since MN cancelled the Legion baseball season this summer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 30 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: That number isn't in jeopardy now since MN cancelled the Legion baseball season this summer. Double bonus that I cannot catch coronavirus because I won’t have to attend @MafiaBoy’s high school graduation ceremony. Thanks, Governor Walz, I appreciate you looking out for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynato Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 20 minutes ago, UND1983 said: And UNDlawguy liked this one. Lol. You did like the post that said it was the fault of those who are at the top, and there is only one guy at the top. He made a post saying if you want to blame someone, blame the politicians and don't excuse their actions. The top can be considered politicians. If you want to blame one single person, you have to put it on the guy at the very top. Again, you connected the final dots for him that trump is at the very top and deserves fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDlaw80 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 18 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: Ummmmmmmm.......... Read my quotes you posted. Everything I wrote regarding our politicians was in the plural form. As such the 'buck stops at the top' refers to (per the topic) our leaders and not those giving them advice. But I suppose basic English comprehension is lacking these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 27 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: I see maybe three 50+ in that video. What I see is a bunch of potential asymptomatic carriers (who’ll never go symptomatic) that’ll build herd immunity. Did you read the first 20-30 replies? Essentially everyone who is in the building is going to get it and many of them are going to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, UNDlaw80 said: Read my quotes you posted. Everything I wrote regarding our politicians was in the plural form. As such the 'buck stops at the top' refers to (per the topic) our leaders and not those giving them advice. But I suppose basic English comprehension is lacking these days. If you really are an attorney look for new work......no one here is buying that......the "leaders" part. In the plural form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Why are we blaming the firefighters? Blame the arsonists. (Yeah, I’m looking at you and your policies Beijing.) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDlaw80 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Oxbow6 said: If you really are an attorney look for new work......no one here is buying that......the "leaders" part. In the plural form. I suppose I shouldn't expect certain individuals to see beyond their biases......the right-wing wackos in this case. Not that far-left-wing idiots would do any differently in the same situation. Well done people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzerman19 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 1 hour ago, UND1983 said: Did you read the first 20-30 replies? Essentially everyone who is in the building is going to get it and many of them are going to die. I assume you are speaking in jest, those responses were pure lunacy. can you imagine how pathetic a world this would be if everything shutdown over somebody getting sick? I didn’t before, I can now...it’s a complete joke. When we were talking about millions dying in the hallways of jam packed ERs...that’s when I bought in.... 2+ months later: a few thousand healthy people, a boatload of unhealthy elderly people. Most in NYC metroplex. Sorry for the family’s loss, but really? Really? We failed this test, not because of the numbers, but because we’ve become so soft and weak as a society that we can’t be okay with nature taking its course. people, we control nothing! We are tiny, fragile organisms spinning and rotating, and revolving and spinning thousands of miles per hour around a bunch of giant rocks and nuclear reactors in an endless vacuum..accept we don’t control sh$t, accept we all die someday. Then love your family and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post yzerman19 Posted May 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 11, 2020 Media and the internet have broken this country. Seriously. We’d be a lot better off without it. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 17 minutes ago, UNDlaw80 said: I suppose I shouldn't expect certain individuals too see beyond their biases......the right-wing wackos in this case. Not that far-left-wing idiots would do any differently in the same situation. Well done people. Saying it isn't all the President's fault doesn't mean I am a right wing wacko. This sh$t was happening no matter what. Maybe a bit less with a different reaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzerman19 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Which is the greater sin? That we failed to delay 80,000 deaths or that we destroyed the US economy for a generation? I know where I sit on that... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDlaw80 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 2 hours ago, yzerman19 said: Media and the internet have broken this country. Seriously. We’d be a lot better off without it. So true. The internet has broken us. It gives people an easy avenue to seek out news that only validates their confirmation biases. As a result we're more apt to live in cocoon of 1-sided perspectives. Unlike in years past (say, when everybody obtained news from Walter Cronkite) we have no common ground as a starting point for disagreement. People’s worldviews are miles apart. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzerman19 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, UNDlaw80 said: So true. The internet has broken us. It gives people an easy avenue to seek out news that only validates their confirmation biases. As a result we're more apt to live in cocoon of 1-sided perspectives. Unlike in years past (say, when everybody obtained news from Walter Cronkite) we have no common ground as a stating point for disagreement. People’s worldviews are miles apart. Couldn’t agree more, and people can sit there and spout their perspectives with no consequence and no credibility required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 58 minutes ago, yzerman19 said: Which is the greater sin? That we failed to delay 80,000 deaths or that we destroyed the US economy for a generation? I know where I sit on that... 787000+ total individuals in this country died between February 1 thru May 2 from a laundry list of reasons. 700K+ have died above and beyond COVID in 3 months. This country never recognized the other 700K deaths during the same time frame nor has it ever made a big deal of the roughly 3/4M individuals that die every 3 months in this country. You're spot on that we were fooled into thinking protecting the elderly and vulnerable was paramount and a single line item on the balance sheet at the expense of sacrificing the stability of society as we know it and the future of your kids and mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, UNDlaw80 said: So true. The internet has broken us. It gives people an easy avenue to seek out news that only validates their confirmation biases. As a result we;re more apt to live in cocoon of 1-sided perspectives. Unlike in years past (say, when everybody obtained their news from Walter Cronkite) we have no common ground as a stating point for disagreement. People’s worldviews are miles apart. I will add that it is also prevalent in the entertainment people watch and listen to. Johnny Carson was an equal opportunity mocker. You don’t see that these days. When you get a whole bunch of celebrities together with a campaign that “we really need to support this president” it only shows that it is all based on political viewpoint, not country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 2 hours ago, The Sicatoka said: Why are we blaming the firefighters? Blame the arsonists. (Yeah, I’m looking at you and your policies Beijing.) German magazine Der Spiegel is reporting the China government conspired with WHO to delay reporting the problem by four to six weeks. https://dailycaller.com/2020/05/09/china-who-coronavirus-coverup-germany/ “The BND’s verdict is harsh: At least four, if not six, weeks have been lost in Beijing’s information policy in the fight against the virus,” Der Spiegel reported. (BND is German intelligence.) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 “The news comes amid rising sentiment that China should be held financially responsible for the pandemic.“ Blame the arsonists. And make them pay. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farce poobah Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Time to build a wall around China. For as long as the CCP is in charge, the rest of us are in danger. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlop Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-coronavirus-real-death-toll-covid-29-cases-a9504911.html So assuming these numbers are even close to accurate, show me a Covid-19 death and I'll show you someone with heart disease or some similar condition that was too afraid of the media created hysteria to seek treatment........but don't forget the added bonus of a crashed economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post yzerman19 Posted May 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 11, 2020 Time to repatriate industry and production. Our greed created this monstrosity. Kill $60k/year union jobs to pay Chinese workers $10k/year. Sold the soul of this country for a few decades of ridiculous earnings. I’m no crusader for the working man, but the exporting of jobs and production has fueled the political and economic divide we have today and has opened up a new chasm of vulnerability in supply chain. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzerman19 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, TheFlop said: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-coronavirus-real-death-toll-covid-29-cases-a9504911.html So assuming these numbers are even close to accurate, show me a Covid-19 death and I'll show you someone with heart disease or some similar condition that was too afraid of the media created hysteria to seek treatment........but don't forget the added bonus of a crashed economy. Yeah...but this is the Brits too...jolly good fun, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlop Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 23 minutes ago, yzerman19 said: Yeah...but this is the Brits too...jolly good fun, eh? Unfortunately I find some of the Brits coverage of the US more objective than much of what is found in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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