Bison06 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said: WH Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany never complained about the T gatherings, may never used the word super spreader before? Take the blinders off. Hypocrisy on both sides, can you at least admit to that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonadub Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Out of curiosity, how many on here predicted that Covid would become a non-issue after the election? asking for a friend... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Minnesota - mask mandate North Dakota - no mask mandate South Dakota - no mask mandate All three - cases* exploding *Cases. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison06 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 15 minutes ago, zonadub said: Out of curiosity, how many on here predicted that Covid would become a non-issue after the election? asking for a friend... You mean like the announcement of pfizer having a 90% effective vaccine a week after the election? Yeah, the covid response in our country hasn't been political at all. Also, the election isn't technically over yet. So to say, see I told you, is a bit premature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 18 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: Minnesota - mask mandate North Dakota - no mask mandate South Dakota - no mask mandate All three - cases* exploding *Cases. Walz to announce a more "surgical" dialback/restriction plan tomorrow to combat the fact masks are not doing the trick in MN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonadub Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 14 minutes ago, Bison06 said: You mean like the announcement of pfizer having a 90% effective vaccine a week after the election? Yeah, the covid response in our country hasn't been political at all. Also, the election isn't technically over yet. So to say, see I told you, is a bit premature. Have to disagree. As a Trump voter/anti-Harris voter, it’s all over but the shouting. Too much fraud to be able to prove enough to change the outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison06 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, zonadub said: Have to disagree. As a Trump voter/anti-Harris voter, it’s all over but the shouting. Too much fraud to be able to prove it all. I'm not saying the result will be different, I'm saying that an election isn't over until the electors have officially made their selection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman91 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 4 hours ago, Oxbow6 said: Pfizer vaccine was just shown to be 90% effective in recent trial and is looking to it roll out by month's end. If there is one thing Trump can do before he leaves office it's get an effective vaccine out to the public. Biden won't even consider a vaccine until it's 100% effective......just like the flu shot??? Similar to wanting zero cases in his mind. I see he put Osterholm on his Covid19 advisory board....wasn't he the one advocating a couple months ago for another national 6 week lockdown? Any effective vaccine will be kicked down the street by the Biden administration because then the Democrat party as a whole loses power on the ignorant people who think government should control everything. What the vaccine news this morning does is really stick a dagger in the extraordinarily stupid idea, advanced by some (cough, Sikatoka) that COVID is just going to run roughshod over the country until herd immunity is reached and we shouldn't really do much to restrict the spread. News that the potential vaccine is promising and not in the far distant future should compel people to buckle down and avoid spread as much as possible. Pfizer's vaccine is more difficult to roll out (two doses, needs to be kept in cold storage), but it is good news for the similar types of vaccines that are being worked on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 14 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: Walz to announce a more "surgical" dialback/restriction plan tomorrow to combat the fact masks are not doing the trick in MN. Two weeks to flatten the curve... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison06 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 1 minute ago, wxman91 said: What the vaccine news this morning does is really stick a dagger in the extraordinarily stupid idea, advanced by some (cough, Sikatoka) that COVID is just going to run roughshod over the country until herd immunity is reached and we shouldn't really do much to restrict the spread. News that the potential vaccine is promising and not in the far distant future should compel people to buckle down and avoid spread as much as possible. Pfizer's vaccine is more difficult to roll out (two doses, needs to be kept in cold storage), but it is good news for the similar types of vaccines that are being worked on. How does the potential of an effective vaccine somehow nullify the idea that Covid needs to make its way through the society for society to return to normal? First of all, it's "potentially" effective. Second, how many people do you think will realistically line up to be guinea pigs for the fastest developed vaccine in the history of the world? My guess is it will be minimal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman91 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Bison06 said: How does the potential of an effective vaccine somehow nullify the idea that Covid needs to make its way through the society for society to return to normal? First of all, it's "potentially" effective. Second, how many people do you think will realistically line up to be guinea pigs for the fastest developed vaccine in the history of the world? My guess is it will be minimal. Are you serious? We want to stop COVID from making its way through society. That's the point of a vaccine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodak78 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Retired Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice Michael Gableman, told local radio station 1130 WISN this week that the statute is "very, very clear. If an absentee ballot does not have a witness address on it, it's not valid. That ballot is not valid." The Dan O'Donnell Show, meanwhile, claimed that the Wisconsin GOP "estimates that thousands of witness addresses may have been changed." https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/many-200000-wisconsin-residents-may-have-voted-absentee-without-having Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman91 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 This one is for the poster who was trying to convince us that testing was the only reason why ND looked bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxFan100 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Vaccine-can see the light at the end of the tunnel is very encouraging. I hesitate to say the announcement timing was political. let some of the election lawsuits run its course and we will see what’s under some stones. I think it is over but there will be some ugliness and light shown on how we can improve the process. I hope it is over within 10 days. Not optimistic though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman91 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 41 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: Minnesota - mask mandate North Dakota - no mask mandate South Dakota - no mask mandate All three - cases* exploding *Cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodak78 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 2 hours ago, jdub27 said: Curious if you actually have any source about Biden and his response to a vaccine (100% efficiency or kicking it down the road)? Or just partisan complaining? Probably also fair to point out that Pfizer's breakthrough was not part of Operation Warp Speed and they took no federal funding. They did sign a distribution agreement, however that didn't influence how quickly Pfizer was able to do this. Regardless, good news, particularly looking at the markets today. So they are part of warp speed with the distribution. The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and the Department of Defense (DoD) today announced an agreement with U.S.-based Pfizer Inc. for large-scale production and nationwide delivery of 100 million doses of a COVID-19 vaccine in the United States following the vaccine’s successful manufacture and approval. The agreement also allows the U.S. government to acquire an additional 500 million doses. The federal government will own the 100 million doses of vaccine initially produced as a result of this agreement, and Pfizer will deliver the doses in the United States if the product receives Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) or licensure from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), as outlined in FDA guidance, after completing demonstration of safety and efficacy in a large Phase 3 clinical trial. https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2020/07/22/us-government-engages-pfizer-produce-millions-doses-covid-19-vaccine.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison06 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 15 minutes ago, wxman91 said: Are you serious? We want to stop COVID from making its way through society. That's the point of a vaccine. I am serious. Vaccinations aren't 100% effective at stopping transmission of a disease and even if they were a very small percentage of our population will get this vaccine in the next six months. Whether that is because they choose not to get it or it isn't widely available in all areas. Use Influenza as your baseline. Does the vaccine stop Influenza from making it's way through our population each year? Nope. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison06 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 14 minutes ago, wxman91 said: This graph would be nearly perfectly inverted if you ran it in May/June. It's just burned through those states on the left already. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Nodak78 said: So they are part of warp speed with the distribution. The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and the Department of Defense (DoD) today announced an agreement with U.S.-based Pfizer Inc. for large-scale production and nationwide delivery of 100 million doses of a COVID-19 vaccine in the United States following the vaccine’s successful manufacture and approval. The agreement also allows the U.S. government to acquire an additional 500 million doses. The federal government will own the 100 million doses of vaccine initially produced as a result of this agreement, and Pfizer will deliver the doses in the United States if the product receives Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) or licensure from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), as outlined in FDA guidance, after completing demonstration of safety and efficacy in a large Phase 3 clinical trial. https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2020/07/22/us-government-engages-pfizer-produce-millions-doses-covid-19-vaccine.html They made a business decision to not accept any money so they could more quickly get passed some govt check points in place for those that accepted money. One could still make the argument that while they did not accept money for development, the Warp Speed program still pushed them to find a solution quickly to profit. Especially agreeing to $2 billion contract in July. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodak78 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 21 minutes ago, homer said: They made a business decision to not accept any money so they could more quickly get passed some govt check points in place for those that accepted money. One could still make the argument that while they did not accept money for development, the Warp Speed program still pushed them to find a solution quickly to profit. Especially agreeing to $2 billion contract in July. Exactly. Without the agreement to have a sale for the vaccine would have made for a slow development of the vaccine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Fargo Billards and Gastropub to close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodak78 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Well we are going to be safe in Williston. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/trump-accuses-democrats-of-cheating-what-goes-around-comes-around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison Dan Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 1 hour ago, wxman91 said: What the vaccine news this morning does is really stick a dagger in the extraordinarily stupid idea, advanced by some (cough, Sikatoka) that COVID is just going to run roughshod over the country until herd immunity is reached and we shouldn't really do much to restrict the spread. News that the potential vaccine is promising and not in the far distant future should compel people to buckle down and avoid spread as much as possible. Pfizer's vaccine is more difficult to roll out (two doses, needs to be kept in cold storage), but it is good news for the similar types of vaccines that are being worked on. The vaccine was always part of herd immunity. Please tell me how the virus is transmitted and if the mask is so great how does it spread in LCF that have the best masks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxForever Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 48 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: Fargo Billards and Gastropub to close. That’s a bummer. No new business will overtake that building with the current state of affairs. They had an awesome outdoor volleyball league/hangout. More newer restaurants to close in Fargo soon I would imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Nodak78 said: So they are part of warp speed with the distribution. The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and the Department of Defense (DoD) today announced an agreement with U.S.-based Pfizer Inc. for large-scale production and nationwide delivery of 100 million doses of a COVID-19 vaccine in the United States following the vaccine’s successful manufacture and approval. The agreement also allows the U.S. government to acquire an additional 500 million doses. The federal government will own the 100 million doses of vaccine initially produced as a result of this agreement, and Pfizer will deliver the doses in the United States if the product receives Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) or licensure from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), as outlined in FDA guidance, after completing demonstration of safety and efficacy in a large Phase 3 clinical trial. https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2020/07/22/us-government-engages-pfizer-produce-millions-doses-covid-19-vaccine.html Correct, the government contracted to purchase the vaccine if they were able to development something. But Pfizer did not take federal funding to back R&D or manufacturing like every other drug company. This was intentionally done by the company to stay away from any political influence or strings attached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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