sioux rube Posted November 18, 2018 Posted November 18, 2018 Lost and yet to be found. UND’s hockey teams identity. If found call Coach Berry. Quote
gfhockey Posted November 18, 2018 Posted November 18, 2018 We are slipping in into medicoritt ehat happens to when teams were aftraid to play us as we were physical Quote
MafiaMan Posted November 18, 2018 Posted November 18, 2018 11 minutes ago, gfhockey said: We are slipping in into medicoritt ehat happens to when teams were aftraid to play us as we were physical BUT HE WON A NATTY FOR YOU! Quote
gfhockey Posted November 18, 2018 Posted November 18, 2018 Never asked the simple question if she should fire him or not Quote
MafiaMan Posted November 18, 2018 Posted November 18, 2018 3 hours ago, gfhockey said: Never asked the simple question if she should fire him or not Well, nobody knows how to spell and be simple quite like you, that’s for sure... 2 Quote
Oxbow6 Posted November 18, 2018 Posted November 18, 2018 1 hour ago, sioux rube said: Lost and yet to be found. UND’s hockey teams identity. If found call Coach Berry. Indentity in a word........underachieving Quote
scpa0305 Posted November 18, 2018 Posted November 18, 2018 Curious what’s going on with this program the past two years. It’s not the talent because many of those boys could have played for many high end hockey schools. It just seems so many of the players have been underachieving lately. At the very least, we have solid talent. But as a team we are so very average. We’ll beat a high end team here and there but we get swept by below average teams. It’s very early, but it’s probably about time to get worried about the pairwise. Swept at home against WMU, loss to Miami at home, loss and tie against BSU, etc Quote
Frozen4sioux Posted November 18, 2018 Author Posted November 18, 2018 Starting to question the ability of the coaches to get the most out of these kids. These kids have talent, as has been pointed out, many are drafted, most could have played for the ither big programs. We have to fix whatever is causing these gaps in capabilities and performance. This keeps up and the program can end up with a reputation of lack of development and we will lose and lose out on future prospects. Whatever is needed to correct this problem, id like to see it happen ASAP so the program can rebuild. I like bubs he's a great guy, but If this cant be fixed, he could end up being a great guy somewhere else. At this point I dont see any possible way Shaw needs to be a part of this coaching staff, and for bubs sake it may be better to part ways sooner r as ther than later. 1 Quote
SWSiouxMN Posted November 18, 2018 Posted November 18, 2018 Berry about to be our version of Steve Fisher? I hope not. Quote
SIOUXELEVENS Posted November 18, 2018 Posted November 18, 2018 If Berry can’t get his players to perform then time for him to move on, talking about poor defense what about scoring some goals, very few games are won 1-0. Maybe the staff is way to worried about defense and forgot that the opposition can’t score if the puck is in their end. Quote
Wilbur Posted November 18, 2018 Posted November 18, 2018 They'll be the hardest working team in the country starting Monday though. So there is that. 4 Quote
scpa0305 Posted November 18, 2018 Posted November 18, 2018 31 minutes ago, Frozen4sioux said: Starting to question the ability of the coaches to get the most out of these kids. These kids have talent, as has been pointed out, many are drafted, most could have played for the ither big programs. We have to fix whatever is causing these gaps in capabilities and performance. This keeps up and the program can end up with a reputation of lack of development and we will lose and lose out on future prospects. Whatever is needed to correct this problem, id like to see it happen ASAP so the program can rebuild. I like bubs he's a great guy, but If this cant be fixed, he could end up being a great guy somewhere else. At this point I dont see any possible way Shaw needs to be a part of this coaching staff, and for bubs sake it may be better to part ways sooner r as ther than later. I don’t buy that excuse that Shaw missed the game because of a recruiting visit. That has the be the worst excuse ever. That just doesn’t happen. Who were they recruiting, Jack Hughes? 1 Quote
Ressivoisin Posted November 18, 2018 Posted November 18, 2018 Wade through the Friday SC game thread, but wear waders! Quote
MafiaMan Posted November 18, 2018 Posted November 18, 2018 1 hour ago, SWSiouxMN said: Berry about to be our version of Steve Fisher? I hope not. 108-53 at Michigan, 3 NCAA title game appearances, 1 national championship. HUH? Quote
cberkas Posted November 18, 2018 Posted November 18, 2018 These last two seasons feel more like a rebuild then the normal reload. 1 Quote
Popular Post siouxkid12 Posted November 18, 2018 Popular Post Posted November 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Frozen4sioux said: Starting to question the ability of the coaches to get the most out of these kids. These kids have talent, as has been pointed out, many are drafted, most could have played for the ither big programs. We have to fix whatever is causing these gaps in capabilities and performance. This keeps up and the program can end up with a reputation of lack of development and we will lose and lose out on future prospects. Whatever is needed to correct this problem, id like to see it happen ASAP so the program can rebuild. I like bubs he's a great guy, but If this cant be fixed, he could end up being a great guy somewhere else. At this point I dont see any possible way Shaw needs to be a part of this coaching staff, and for bubs sake it may be better to part ways sooner r as ther than later. This is what all the Fire Hak people wanted. 1 national championship and then years of mediocrity 5 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted November 18, 2018 Posted November 18, 2018 22 minutes ago, siouxkid12 said: This is what all the Fire Hak people wanted. 1 national championship and then years of mediocrity For the record, I never said that and I would disagree with anyone who did. That being said, it is a false choice (years of success without titles vs. one title and years of mediocrity). This isn't about giving up NCAA titles in exchange for 25+ wins each year. It's about looking like the worst team in the country when they have the talent to be so much more. 1 Quote
scpa0305 Posted November 18, 2018 Posted November 18, 2018 12 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said: For the record, I never said that and I would disagree with anyone who did. That being said, it is a false choice (years of success without titles vs. one title and years of mediocrity). This isn't about giving up NCAA titles in exchange for 25+ wins each year. It's about looking like the worst team in the country when they have the talent to be so much more. Well said. Although I would still say those Hak teams had better recruiting classes, more were early on off the blais trail though 1 Quote
TheFlop Posted November 18, 2018 Posted November 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, scpa0305 said: Well said. Although I would still say those Hak teams had better recruiting classes, more were early on off the blais trail though Honest question, how many of the forwards on this team are still left over Hak recruits? (Yes, I know that Berry won a title with Hak guys......but Hak couldn't win the big one with Hak guys so can't really hold that against Berry). Possible that Hak left the cupboard a little bare? Quote
scpa0305 Posted November 18, 2018 Posted November 18, 2018 6 minutes ago, TheFlop said: Honest question, how many of the forwards on this team are still left over Hak recruits? (Yes, I know that Berry won a title with Hak guys......but Hak couldn't win the big one with Hak guys so can't really hold that against Berry). Possible that Hak left the cupboard a little bare? Not sure I’d say that either. That ‘16 team was loaded. 1 Quote
MafiaMan Posted November 19, 2018 Posted November 19, 2018 1 hour ago, TheFlop said: Honest question, how many of the forwards on this team are still left over Hak recruits? (Yes, I know that Berry won a title with Hak guys......but Hak couldn't win the big one with Hak guys so can't really hold that against Berry). Possible that Hak left the cupboard a little bare? 3.5 years after he left...”blame Hakstol.” 1 Quote
TheFlop Posted November 19, 2018 Posted November 19, 2018 37 minutes ago, MafiaMan said: 3.5 years after he left...”blame Hakstol.” Just a question that since you don't know the answer to that perhaps someone else can help with. Since most recruits play juniors for 1-2 years after committing.....and Berry is starting year 4.....the much maligned JR and SR class (at least as it pertains to offense) would have been recruited under Hakstol. Doesn't let Berry off the hook either but you take a slump at the end of the Hakstol years and couple that with a slow start Berry's first couple years and this is the result. Quote
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted November 19, 2018 Posted November 19, 2018 On 11/14/2018 at 8:48 PM, Blackheart said: Not sure where to put this but what the hell... Today's Heraldo had this gem of a story... http://grandforksherald.com/sports/hockey/4529371-gophers-notebook-lines-changing-early-season-data-rolls Why the hell am I reading about Motzko and the Gopher line combinations in the Herald? Who gives a shi+ about those guys? If I want to read about Gofer hockey I'll pick up a copy of the Minnesota Daily or Kowalski's Weekly Shopper. Haven't read the Heraldo for a week, been deer hunting. Hopefully this is not the new plan, they've been putting Bizon FB in for a few years now. It's frustrating! Quote
Oxbow6 Posted November 19, 2018 Posted November 19, 2018 Let this soak in...........................UND is currently last in the NCHC in PP % and goals per game average. Quote
franchise Posted November 19, 2018 Posted November 19, 2018 45 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: Let this soak in...........................UND is currently last in the NCHC in PP % and goals per game average. Any option to defer a PP and just use it to offset a future PP for the opponent? Quote
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