UNDColorado Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 14 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: Question. If Kennedy encouraged Faison to retire, but then put on a show for the media to make it seem like it was Faison's choice (allowing Faison to save face and go out gracefully), does that make Kennedy a bad leader? Seems like the right thing to do to me. Good point. I am having a hard time trying to figure out what point these reporters are trying to prove. To answer your question, my opinion is this is a move a good leader would make. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, UNDColorado said: Good point. I am having a hard time trying to figure out what point these reporters are trying to prove. To answer your question, my opinion is this is a move a good leader would make. I think the point is that had Faison retired earlier, the position could have been eliminated entirely and the money then used to save women's hockey. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberkas Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, tnt said: You wonder why the Herald guys don't have much inside information and are always looking for opens records to get a story. Not saying that is a completely bad thing, but Virg Foss would at least know which guys UND was recruiting and partly because of social media, fans know of recruits or prospective recruits many times before Schlossman does. Maybe it's because of how strict the NCAA is on talking about recruits, but it sure was nice to know what guys UND was interested in, even if they didn't always get them. I can see Kennedy controlling what and when the Herald gets their information on things more then anyone else has. I also don’t see these FOIA requests being done in a timely matter either with Kennedy in charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberkas Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Just now, MafiaMan said: I think the point is that had Faison retired earlier, the position could have been eliminated entirely and the money then used to save women's hockey. Don’t tell the twins that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDColorado Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, MafiaMan said: I think the point is that had Faison retired earlier, the position could have been eliminated entirely and the money then used to save women's hockey. Haha right, what the heck do we need an AD for anyway 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Replace Kennedy with Kelley. Would the Herald react the same way if it was done in the same manner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 36 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: Question. If Kennedy encouraged Faison to retire, but then put on a show for the media to make it seem like it was Faison's choice (allowing Faison to save face and go out gracefully), does that make Kennedy a bad leader? Seems like the right thing to do to me. All some people see is a former politician and anything he does isn’t right 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 58 minutes ago, MafiaMan said: Well, Kennedy's a no-good Republican, so, yea... 43 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: #MakeUNDgreatagain Personally, I don't give a rat's a$$ if he has a D or an R after his name, as long as he is doing his job. And so far, I can't complain too much regarding Kennedy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 1 hour ago, cberkas said: I can see Kennedy controlling what and when the Herald gets their information on things more then anyone else has. I also don’t see these FOIA requests being done in a timely matter either with Kennedy in charge. Brads mad at womens hockey getting cut. Marks mad because, if it wasn't for that Herald article, he'd have his "personal assistant" right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southpaw Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 1 hour ago, tnt said: You wonder why the Herald guys don't have much inside information and are always looking for opens records to get a story. Not saying that is a completely bad thing, but Virg Foss would at least know which guys UND was recruiting and partly because of social media, fans know of recruits or prospective recruits many times before Schlossman does. Maybe it's because of how strict the NCAA is on talking about recruits, but it sure was nice to know what guys UND was interested in, even if they didn't always get them. Tom and Brad have plenty of inside information but it always helps a story when you do the FOIA requests to get actual proof. Look at Tom's work on UND joining the Summit/MVFC. He had an inside scoop, did an FOIA request and sure enough, he now has the proof he needed to write more than just a story with invisible sources. For a week, Brad held off on publishing the biggest NCHC story of the year because he didn't want to get his sources in an awkward position. They both have a lot of inside information, they just don't send out every little thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 55 minutes ago, southpaw said: Tom and Brad have plenty of inside information but it always helps a story when you do the FOIA requests to get actual proof. Look at Tom's work on UND joining the Summit/MVFC. He had an inside scoop, did an FOIA request and sure enough, he now has the proof he needed to write more than just a story with invisible sources. For a week, Brad held off on publishing the biggest NCHC story of the year because he didn't want to get his sources in an awkward position. They both have a lot of inside information, they just don't send out every little thing. Yeah they have so much inside information that the cutting of women's hockey was a total shock to them when people had been leaving hints all over on this message board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godsmack Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 So if Faison was forced out, the question I have is, why? Did he but heads with Kennedy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UNDBIZ Posted October 18, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted October 18, 2017 Again, when putting a horse out to pasture, do you give it a little pat on the butt or do you slap it across the face? Tom is upset because Kennedy did what literally every leader does when a long-term employee "resigns" or "retires." It's nonsensical. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison73 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 8 hours ago, jdub27 said: Because he has friends that didn't get paid for work they supposedly did for UND (even though no one else has ever heard a peep about it) or something like that. They got paid. Finally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 BF retiring at year's end but will continue to get paid thru January 15, 2019. In addition he'll receive health benefits thru June 30, 2019 per Schloss's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 So do people really expect when you retire and your date is set, you shouldn't get paid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberkas Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 There must be some giant conspiracy going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bang Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 The guy was obviously convinced to retire. Call it what you want in the end he was let go. The question is why? Why is it such a secret? Why the charade with the press conference and fake love fest? Seems weird. I also don’t give a sh&t. I was indifferent about the guy. Didn’t love him, didn’t hate him. Bring on the new guy, let’s see how does with taking away the stipends or finding the money for them. Tough job but somebody has to do it. That’s why I think our next AD will be more of a fundraiser than anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hky Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 58 minutes ago, SWSiouxMN said: So do people really expect when you retire and your date is set, you shouldn't get paid? For a whole extra year? Paid through Jan., 2019, and health benefits for 6 months after that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, hky said: For a whole extra year? Paid through Jan., 2019, and health benefits for 6 months after that? That is how you push someone out the door and keep them quiet in the process. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 9 minutes ago, hky said: For a whole extra year? Paid through Jan., 2019, and health benefits for 6 months after that? UND didn't make something special up for him, they allowed him to leave under the standard early retirement package that a lot of people within the NDUS system have used over the last few years. Again, more standard stuff being blown up because of how it was presented by the media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackheart Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 9 minutes ago, jdub27 said: UND didn't make something special up for him, they allowed him to leave under the standard early retirement package that a lot of people within the NDUS system have used over the last few years. Again, more standard stuff being blown up because of how it was presented by the media. Can't wait for the follow-up story from Woodward and Bernstein over at the Heraldo. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bang Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 It’s ridiculous to think if you put 9 years into a job, you get your tenth years salary for nothing. If this is the normal government payout practice our civil servant checkbooks are out of control more than I thought. Did Kelley receive the same payout? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milford torgerson Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 1 hour ago, Oxbow6 said: BF retiring at year's end but will continue to get paid thru January 15, 2019. In addition he'll receive health benefits thru June 30, 2019 per Schloss's. How normal is this type of arrangement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bang Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 10 minutes ago, Milford torgerson said: How normal is this type of arrangement? If that’s normal, than normals f*+^ed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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