Gameday vs USD

[SWSiouxMN]

7 minutes ago, bang said:

Millennials, they're like herpes. You can't get rid of them. 

hey I'm a Millennial, I resent that*

*well not really, I get annoyed as well so I say I relate to another generation

[bang]

14 minutes ago, SWSiouxMN said:

hey I'm a Millennial, I resent that*

*well not really, I get annoyed as well so I say I relate to another generation

I hate to lug that guy in with any group of people. All generations have these types of people. 

[Sioux94]

3 hours ago, fightingsioux4life said:

Look John Boy Walton, you are wearing out your welcome here. If your entire purpose is to jab people, then please get lost and stay lost. 

After yesterday, I have ZERO patience for bullcrap today. Z-E-R-O.

While do I have a feeling this was like him in his High School years, he thought he was buds with everybody and part of the group........but really they just wanted him to go away.

[homer]

2 hours ago, 77iceman said:

My advice is coaches n players just shouldn't even watch film from yesterday.

why?  What are they going to see that they didn't see already.?  The issues were glaring and obvious. Pick up your head, work on EVERYTHING and focus on preparing for the Cats.

Go Hawks

With the youth at LB I think there is plenty to learn

[VMeister]

4 hours ago, Westside said:

Were you sitting in your boy VMeister's seats at last years USD-UND game by chance? 

Johnnie sat with me a couple years back. Also ran in to him in the beer line at multiple other games. He pays attention...he just doesn't care. 

I dont mind smart-ass youngsters. 

[bang]

35 minutes ago, VMeister said:

Johnnie sat with me a couple years back. Also ran in to him in the beer line at multiple other games. He pays attention...he just doesn't care. 

I dont mind smart-ass youngsters. 

I get it. Sometimes well timed sarcasm can get lost in print. He also is admittedly on here to annoy us. I've never met anyone on here but sometimes I wonder what they're like in person. 

[Westside]

1 hour ago, VMeister said:

Johnnie sat with me a couple years back. Also ran in to him in the beer line at multiple other games. He pays attention...he just doesn't care. 

I dont mind smart-ass youngsters. 

No worries. There was a younger guy in the front row of your section at last years UND-USD game that gave equal parts $h*t to both USD & UND. Fit ol' Johnboy's M.O. perfectly. 

[petey23]

I guess we will see what happens in Big Sky play. We played UTAH who has a very good defense, Missouri State who is a bad team but they do focus on stopping the run and USD who is either very improved at stopping the run or we are in trouble.

If our offensive line isn't able to control the line of scrimmage and get to the 2nd level with blocks it might be time to go to more 3 wide receiver sets and use Cloyd or a 4th receiver split off the line as well. Spread the defense out a bit and still have a primary focus of running the ball but make teams spread out their defense and not be able to stack 8 and 9 in the box. Throw some quick passes and bubble screens and use Keaton's running abilities again as well.

[Irish]

14 minutes ago, petey23 said:

I guess we will see what happens in Big Sky play. We played UTAH who has a very good defense, Missouri State who is a bad team but they do focus on stopping the run and USD who is either very improved at stopping the run or we are in trouble.

If our offensive line isn't able to control the line of scrimmage and get to the 2nd level with blocks it might be time to go to more 3 wide receiver sets and use Cloyd or a 4th receiver split off the line as well. Spread the defense out a bit and still have a primary focus of running the ball but make teams spread out their defense and not be able to stack 8 and 9 in the box. Throw some quick passes and bubble screens and use Keaton's running abilities again as well.

This is a great idea and is football common sense.  Not a chance Rudolph uses it.

[Sioux94]

32 minutes ago, Irish said:

This is a great idea and is football common sense.  Not a chance Rudolph uses it.

In the Big Sky we will likely be able to run on some of those teams, but we need to have a plan when we are playing a strong front and we cannot run.......but we don't have a plan for that apparently.

[Oxbow6]

5 minutes ago, Sioux94 said:

In the Big Sky we will likely be able to run on some of those teams, but we need to have a plan when we are playing a strong front and we cannot run.......but we don't have a plan for that apparently.

..........so you're saying UND is in trouble as we move to the MVC starting next season?

[Longtime fan]

10 hours ago, BigGame said:

So... why do I not see a bunch of comments ripping into Coach Schmidt?  I only ask because it seems only fair for the Coach bashers to be jumping on because the defense was really terrible yesterday.  We all know it must be his fault when the players blow an assignment or tackle poorly.   Rudolph gets that type of criticism daily on this board but I guess some coaches are bulletproof and some are not.  

 

I only got to watch half of the game due to my daughters hockey schedule but what I watched was truly embarrassing.  It has been a while since I have watched a UND team play so poorly and make so many dumb mistakes. 

 

Everyone on that bus ride Saturday should deserves criticism.....although Santiago sounded like he was the only one with a care.

 Big difference between Schmitty and Rudolph.

Schmitty is competent and knows his $#%^.  UNDs D has been the backbone to UNDs success since the bubba hire.  Not always perfect but incredibly improved since muss days. Injuries/defections at one position (ILB) have taken a massive toll this year.  USD exposed that weakness. 

Rudolph on the other hand, is busy in the press box trying to catch Pokémons since his hire.  

 

[UND-1]

4 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

..........so you're saying UND is in trouble as we move to the MVC starting next season?

They do?  We are in trouble.  Big Sky ain't gonna be happy about that.

[Sioux94]

2 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

..........so you're saying UND is in trouble as we move to the MVC starting next season?

A little trouble yes, unless the younger OL are actually really good and we end up having a better line next year.  We will still win games, we aren't as bad as Saturday's game made us look in my opinion but our OL has a ways to go to get to where we want to be if we are going to have a smash mouth offense and try to run it down your throat.

[AJS]

8 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

..........so you're saying UND is in trouble as we move to the MVC starting next season?

Not until 2020, but they need to improve regardless. UND was able to move the ball in the Big Sky last year with what was basically the same O-Line. With injuries, we'll be very young for the next few weeks, so they may take time to gel. 

[UND-FB-FAN]

5 hours ago, bison73 said:

I know that comment makes you feel better but seriously. What are the odds that  UND grads own more farm ranches than NDSU grads? Seriously?

Low, but I'd rather own farm/ranch land within ND in addition to obtaining MBA, CPL, M.D., or J.D. training at UND than go to NDSU and give away a lot of money for an education that changes nothing in terms of land ownership. Most farmers are generational/family and require zero schooling in agriculture. Agronomy and agriculture/mechanical engineering are minor exceptions, although they are Ag services and not agriculture itself, so the "Own the Farm versus Farming" adage works nicely in such cases. Just my lifelong opinion as I've lived through practical experience with this. I wouldn't expect you to agree, as NDSU needs to maintain maximal influence for your own personal satisfaction. In my opinion, UND is far more essential to the state of ND than NDSU is; of course, interchangeability does exist between the two universities, obviously. I digress.

[Oxbow6]

6 minutes ago, UND-1 said:

They do?  We are in trouble.  Big Sky ain't gonna be happy about that.

My bad........typing and watching GB getting plastered isn't a good combo.

[77iceman]

4 hours ago, homer said:

With the youth at LB I think there is plenty to learn

I know . . . I was kinda joking.  But can you imagine how much time it'll take to go over that film?

Almost better to just spend the time game planning for the Bobcats (as it seemed they hadn't game planned for the 'Yotes at all).

[BigGame]

12 hours ago, Longtime fan said:

Everyone on that bus ride Saturday should deserves criticism.....although Santiago sounded like he was the only one with a care.

 Big difference between Schmitty and Rudolph.

Schmitty is competent and knows his $#%^.  UNDs D has been the backbone to UNDs success since the bubba hire.  Not always perfect but incredibly improved since muss days. Injuries/defections at one position (ILB) have taken a massive toll this year.  USD exposed that weakness. 

Rudolph on the other hand, is busy in the press box trying to catch Pokémons since his hire.  

 

And you prove my point, one is untouchable and the other is apparently catching pokemon.  

[AJS]

https://millersports.areavoices.com/2017/09/17/und-usd-postgame-everybody-ok/

"I think the biggest takeaway from Saturday against USD, though, might be an alarming reminder of how far UND needs to go to be ready for the Missouri Valley Football Conference in 2020."

This sentiment is going to drive me crazy. UND played possibly the worst game they could have played, period. I don't really know what to say.

[UND-1]

http://kfgo.com/blogs/und-football-360/30670/360-reaction-to-und-usd-game/

Not a lot of positives in that.  

[jdub27]

Well, UND finally gave it's critics the one game they've been waiting for the last few seasons, just a complete collapse on all facets, They are going to take it and use it for everything it's worth. Hopefully it's a wake-up call, not a sign of things to come.

DL is much too talented to get pushed around like they did. That made an undersized and inexperienced linebacking corp's job even harder and they couldn't step up either. Secondary played too far off giving up easy first downs and blew at least 2 or 3 coverages that went for big plays. Offense never got in a rhythm and decided to jump offsides when they did manage to get into 3rd and short. Dropped passes and missed WR's were inexcusable and the OL was getting pushed around. Missed kicks and poor punts were just the cherry on top of what was a complete flop.

Most of the mistakes are fixable, but will likely mean either swapping a few players around or adjusting the game plan. Injuries are mounting up and it's still next guy up, even if he might not be ready, time to learn on the job. Season is far from over, but room for error is shrinking rapidly. Changing that starts on Saturday against Montana State.

[Longtime fan]

1 hour ago, BigGame said:

And you prove my point, one is untouchable and the other is apparently catching pokemon.  

Untouchable...no.  Just not yet warranted.  

[Dustin]

7 minutes ago, jdub27 said:

Well, UND finally gave it's critics the one game they've been waiting for the last few seasons, just a complete collapse on all facets, They are going to take it and use it for everything it's worth. Hopefully it's a wake-up call, not a sign of things to come.

DL is much too talented to get pushed around like they did. That made an undersized and inexperienced linebacking corp's job even harder and they couldn't step up either. Secondary played too far off giving up easy first downs and blew at least 2 or 3 coverages that went for big plays. Offense never got in a rhythm and decided to jump offsides when they did manage to get into 3rd and short. Dropped passes and missed WR's were inexcusable and the OL was getting pushed around. Missed kicks and poor punts were just the cherry on top of what was a complete flop.

Most of the mistakes are fixable, but will likely mean either swapping a few players around or adjusting the game plan. Injuries are mounting up and it's still next guy up, even if he might not be ready, time to learn on the job. Season is far from over, but room for error is shrinking rapidly. Changing that starts on Saturday against Montana State.

Changing that hopefully started in the locker room immediately after the game, so that they're ready to show they've made changes on Saturday against Montana State.

[Midwestern Hawk]

17 minutes ago, Longtime fan said:

Untouchable...no.  Just not yet warranted.  

At USD we came out really flat for some reason, offense was horrible, the defense was horrible, and every time something good happened we would shot ourselves in the foot with a penalty.   Those are all things that can and I am confident will be rectified come Saturday.  I am worried about the injuries at OL and ILB.   USD was able to gash us up the middle seemingly at will on Saturday.  The reality is that Saturday we had a converted 205lb OLB, a 195 lb RFR walk-on, an FBS drop-down running back, and a true walk-on soph in playing ILB.  I  think that is a tall order even for Schmidt to work with in a weeks time.  I have no idea if and when Rodgers or Hunt or Larson will be back. When they are back, neither Hunt nor Larson have ever played a down of college football and a year ago Larson was playing high school football. 

We need to patch together the best run blocking line on Saturday, get an early lead and then control the clock for 35-40 minutes.  If we do that we will win.  If the defense is out on the field more than 30 minutes it will be really tough to win.