UND to cut women's hockey

[90siouxfan]

Do they hang banners for Olympians?

[SIOUXFAN97]

actually looking forward to the feds saying we are uber compliant and shutting up the lammy sisters. and then setting their gps for ndac.

[SWSiouxMN]

I'd honestly would be shocked if they came up with anything other than saying UND is good to go

[ChrisUND1]

But, Olympians.

[Prison_Mike]

13 minutes ago, ChrisUND1 said:

But, Olympians.

Two from the US and none from Canada. Enough said...

[UND-1]

[geaux_sioux]

2 hours ago, tnt said:

http://www.grandforksherald.com/news/4254904-herald-announces-reductions

Where is Schlossman's outrage on these reductions.  While he is off covering a Frozen Four that UND wasn't a part of, the Herald was planning job cuts.  Wonder how they found out they lost their jobs?

On the ice via Twitter I assume

[SiouxVolley]

If the Olympian story keeps getting pushed, how about if S Korea and/or China offered to pay UND as its training site for developing their women's Olympics team and nearly all their teams were grads of the program.  The Twins and others would still rip on UND because it wasn't offering Americans girls a spot.  But that's the only way for the program to possibly bring in some significant dollars.

[Bison Dan]

11 hours ago, jdub27 said:

Complaint was filed 3 days after the sports were cut. This was a predictable knee jerk reaction that was fully expected. 

Not surprisingly, they mention how many scholarships were cut (and do mention some will be reinvested) but leave out how scholarships previously were over-favoring females. 

Maybe while while they are up here looking around, they can take a look 75 miles south and see how out of whack those numbers are (I know, but surveys....).

Poor dub,  look who's under investigation for IX problems.   Looks like that extra money saved by cutting Women's opportunities in sports will be going to lawyers. 

[UNDBIZ]

33 minutes ago, Bison Dan said:

Poor dub,  look who's under investigation for IX problems.   Looks like that extra money saved by cutting Women's opportunities in sports will be going to lawyers. 

[jdub27]

3 hours ago, Bison Dan said:

Poor dub,  look who's under investigation for IX problems.   Looks like that extra money saved by cutting Women's opportunities in sports will be going to lawyers. 

Poor Simple Dan, so clueless on what his own athletic department is actually doing that he has to troll a UND message board. How's the volleyball team doing with their lame duck coach? Anyone else in their way out of the men's basketball team? And how about that dumpster fire of a women's basketball team? Any other football players get DUI's that didn't make the news? Can't wait to see the cuts announced next month... 

[The Sicatoka]

Dear Dan,

Thanks for your interest in UND Athletics. We've been moving to an alignment that looks more like NDSUs. 

The Same --
NDSU: FB, MBB, WBB, VB, WSB, WSOC, "The Six", WGolf, MGolf
UND: FB, MBB, WBB, VB, WSB, WSOC, "The Six", WGolf, MGolf

The Differences --
NDSU: Wrestling, Baseball
UND: MIH, M/W Tennis, WIH, M/W S&D,

So, yes UND has M/W Tennis. Seems balanced there so let's forget Tennis for now. 

Now the questions:

Does MIH at UND balance out both Wresting and Baseball at NDSU? By participants, opportunities? Surely not. 

More importantly, should one smirk and feel glee about a Title IX investigation (that I welcome), but instead, should one be asking, "Why did UND have that happen only when they moved to look like NDSU?" So, should you really be happy? The NDSU model triggered an investigation at UND. You should be hoping that UND comes away with no findings, or else NDSU would seem to be prime for a similar investigation. 

So, Dan, thanks for reading, and enjoy that morning cup of coffe. 

 

"The Six" == M/W I/O T&F and M/W CC

[FSSD]

1 hour ago, The Sicatoka said:

Dear Dan,

Thanks for your interest in UND Athletics. We've been moving to an alignment that looks more like NDSUs. 

The Same --
NDSU: FB, MBB, WBB, VB, WSB, WSOC, "The Six", WGolf, MGolf
UND: FB, MBB, WBB, VB, WSB, WSOC, "The Six", WGolf, MGolf

The Differences --
NDSU: WIH, Wrestling, Baseball
UND: MIH, M/W Tennis, WIH, M/W S&D,

So, yes UND has M/W Tennis. Seems balanced there so let's forget Tennis for now. 

Now the questions:

Does MIH at UND balance out both Wresting and Baseball at NDSU? By participants, opportunities? Surely not. 

More importantly, should one smirk and feel glee about a Title IX investigation (that I welcome), but instead, should one be asking, "Why did UND have that happen only when they moved to look like NDSU?" So, should you really be happy? The NDSU model triggered an investigation at UND. You should be hoping that UND comes away with no findings, or else NDSU would seem to be prime for a similar investigation. 

So, Dan, thanks for reading, and enjoy that morning cup of coffe. 

 

"The Six" == M/W I/O T&F and M/W CC

I don't know something is missing - maybe WIH for NDSU.  All they have to do is fill out a survey.  It should balance out NDSU quite nicely. FYP.  That would completely level the playing field between UND and NDSU.  Game on boys.

[Siouxphan27]

6 minutes ago, FSSD said:

I don't know something is missing - maybe WIH for NDSU.  All they have to do is fill out a survey.  It should balance out NDSU quite nicely. FYP.  That would completely level the playing field between UND and NDSU.  Game on boys.

Let's pool some money together and pay enough ndsu girls to fill out surveys in favor of them adding women's hockey. 

[SIOUXFAN97]

48 minutes ago, FSSD said:

I don't know something is missing - maybe WIH for NDSU.  All they have to do is fill out a survey.  It should balance out NDSU quite nicely. FYP.  That would completely level the playing field between UND and NDSU.  Game on boys.

i don't see wih on gobison.com? i see 7 mens/7 womens

[SWSiouxMN]

Be interesting to see who it was that filed...

How long does this usual take and could this slow down the WIH players from going elsewhere?

[The Sicatoka]

13 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

 i see 7 mens/7 womens

They don't list indoor and outdoor track separately but those are separate teams. Thus what you see is really 8 mens / 8 womens. 

[SIOUXFAN97]

15 minutes ago, SWSiouxMN said:

Be interesting to see who it was that filed...

How long does this usual take and could this slow down the WIH players from going elsewhere?

bet the  name that filed it will be Brandtly Schlossbergermann...

[AJS]

8 minutes ago, SWSiouxMN said:

Be interesting to see who it was that filed...

How long does this usual take and could this slow down the WIH players from going elsewhere?

Those are two of my main questions as well.

It's slightly comforting that it appears UND did their due diligence before making the cuts, hiring Baker Donelson to what we assume checked off on everything, as well as this was something that they expected would happen. 

I'm still nervous as I'm not familiar with the history of the potential negative outcomes if this weren't to go the way that UND / Baker Donelson assumed. Could they mandate that Women's hockey be reinstated? What are the potential outcomes if UND is said not to be Title IX compliant? 

This is the final war that had to take place in order to get rid of the black hole that is Women's hockey. We never would have seen the full potential of what the University's athletic teams were capable with that anchor and this is the final battle. 

 

[UND-1]

Any chance that S&D filed it?  

Wonder if a third party lib crusader filed it on behalf of the teams.....

[SIOUXFAN97]

6 minutes ago, AJS said:

Those are two of my main questions as well.

It's slightly comforting that it appears UND did their due diligence before making the cuts, hiring Baker Donelson to what we assume checked off on everything, as well as this was something that they expected would happen. 

I'm still nervous as I'm not familiar with the history of the potential negative outcomes if this weren't to go the way that UND / Baker Donelson assumed. Could they mandate that Women's hockey be reinstated? What are the potential outcomes if UND is said not to be Title IX compliant? 

This is the final war that had to take place in order to get rid of the black hole that is Women's hockey. We never would have seen the full potential of what the University's athletic teams were capable with that anchor and this is the final battle. 

 

wih is dead..100% dead...they (ncaa or the lammy sisters) can't tell you to HAVE wih...at the worst they add women's schollies to the sports that aren't maxed out i assume (soccer, softball, t & f ??)

[Blackheart]

1 hour ago, Siouxphan27 said:

Let's pool some money together and pay enough ndsu girls to fill out surveys in favor of them adding women's hockey. 

Better yet; have the Bison football team fill out the surveys.  I heard they are excellent at paperwork.

[Siouxphan27]

10 minutes ago, Blackheart said:

Better yet; have the Bison football team fill out the surveys.  I heard they are excellent at paperwork.

 Great idea. Instead of paging through the local phone book, just hand them the student directory.

[SS0016]

Schlossman has many awards in journalism and has done a ton of great work.  But, the way he handled the WIH cut was one sided and very unprofessional.  He has lost a lot of credibility by overly supporting the WIH program and the twins.  He needs to be subjective and report the facts, UND can't afford WIH.

[The Sicatoka]

He is being subjective.

Journalists should be objective.