Dustin Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 Just now, Nodak78 said: No the 8 seeded teams are picked by the committee. In theory by their record and SOS. So if UND wins out they should be considered to be a top 8 seed. Look forward to the next committee screw job. No, not those 8 teams. The teams that have to bid for their home games in the round before. Quote
UNDBIZ Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 34 minutes ago, Dustin said: Question for you: Are the 8 home teams for the first round determined by the 8 highest bids, and then low/no bid teams are paired up with them, with geography as a potential factor? Correct. I believe they make an effort to ensure the #9 and #10 teams don't face each other (or the #23 vs #24) in round 1, but I don't think it's guaranteed. Being #9 does not guarantee you home field for the 1st round either, which is quite ridiculous IMO. I should say it's not necessarily the 8 highest bids, as geography plays a fairly large role. 32 minutes ago, Dustin said: Or, are the matchups pre-determined, and then they play at the school who bid higher between the two? Nope Quote
Nodak78 Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 True Look at SUU last year, they won the Big Sky and was the 9 or 10 team and went on the road for the first game. Quote
gundy1124 Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 I believe the NCAA regionalizes 9-24 seeded games. Then, opens the envelopes and highest bid is home. Pretty simple, we can outbid anyone even with a low seed. 1-8 seeds kick back and are guaranteed to be home for 2nd round. (UNDBIZ sees it different?) NCAA claims they don't open the bids 1st to maximize the $$ on the match-ups. Quote
UNDBIZ Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 5 minutes ago, gundy1124 said: I believe the NCAA regionalizes 9-24 seeded games. Then, opens the envelopes and highest bid is home. Pretty simple, we can outbid anyone even with a low seed. 1-8 seeds kick back and are guaranteed to be home for 2nd round. (UNDBIZ sees it different?) No, that looks right to me. Quote
Dustin Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 UNDBIZ and gundy1124 seem to be saying opposite things to me. Quote
fightingsioux08 Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 I thought seeds 1 through 5 are the only ones guranteed a home game when they play a non top 5 team. Regardless of rounds if you are seeds 6 to through 24 you would be bidding against each other if you are not playing a top 5 seeded team Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 23 minutes ago, fightingsioux08 said: I thought seeds 1 through 5 are the only ones guranteed a home game when they play a non top 5 team. Regardless of rounds if you are seeds 6 to through 24 you would be bidding against each other if you are not playing a top 5 seeded team No, top 8 teams (out of field of 24) are guaranteed a second-round home playoff game. Remaining 16 teams yield 8 first-round games. Home team for those are based on bids and the matchups are based on regionalization. Apply those rules to last year's bracket: http://www.ncaa.com/interactive-bracket/football/fcs It's interesting to look at the first round games and see who outbid who. SUU won the Big Sky Conference last season but didn't get a top 8 seed (that went to Portland State, who UND defeated); SUU was outbid by Sam Houston State and the matchup was played there. 3 Quote
UNDBIZ Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 1 hour ago, Dustin said: UNDBIZ and gundy1124 seem to be saying opposite things to me. Hmm, I must not have communicated correctly in prior post. I agree with gundy. There are 24 seeds, top 8 get a bye to round 2, of the bottom 16 the committee takes into account geography and bid amount (as gundy alluded to, they claim not to look at bids until things are regionalized, but get real). They don't regionalize like hockey with #s 9, 10, 11, and 12 each in a separate region. It is almost strictly based on geography. They heavily factor geography and bid amounts in order to lose as little money as possible. Quote
Nodak78 Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 4 minutes ago, mj23 said: You don't want that game. You a mind reader Quote
geaux_sioux Posted October 12, 2016 Author Posted October 12, 2016 8 minutes ago, mj23 said: Pardon me, if UND wants to win and advance in the playoffs then you would rather be in a different bracket. That would help you possibly advance and get some playoff experience and be more ready in later rounds. If we make the playoffs I want the hardest draw possible. No way for anyone to craft a bull$%!# excuse if we win a game or make a run. 3 Quote
UNDColorado Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 4 minutes ago, mj23 said: You won't beat NDSU though, why want a game you are going to lose? Come on man, what sort of a response do you really think you will get here? There is a lot of football left to be played so maybe come back next week if we win Saturday. Quote
gundy1124 Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 5 minutes ago, mj23 said: You won't beat NDSU though, why want a game you are going to lose? - why come out to be a prick on a hypothetical playoff game? Quote
UND-1 Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 We need to win this weekend. And then 4 more times. Let's slow down. 2 Quote
siouxfan512 Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 Maybe we save the UND vs NDSU banter for when we make the playoffs and there is or is not a matchup. Bottom line, it doesn't matter what matchup we want. You play what you get. 4 Quote
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted October 13, 2016 Posted October 13, 2016 I feel the fever of a winner! This thread is getting good. We need to fill the Hawks Nest this weekend and WIN! 1 Quote
Cratter Posted October 15, 2016 Posted October 15, 2016 It'll be interesting to see the polls this week. The team only four spots ahead of UND in the polls beat the #1 team in the country. According to some statisticians UND only had a fifty some chance to beat SUU, and most likely score was by only three points. Point being UND is better than the polls right now. Peaking late in the season just like last year. Quote
geaux_sioux Posted October 16, 2016 Author Posted October 16, 2016 Remember, we played without our best player today. 3 Quote
darell1976 Posted October 16, 2016 Posted October 16, 2016 On 10/12/2016 at 3:30 PM, mj23 said: You won't beat NDSU though, why want a game you are going to lose? Lost to USD last year, lost to SDSU so far this year. Your team winning at the dome is far from 100%. 2 Quote
Cratter Posted October 16, 2016 Posted October 16, 2016 8 minutes ago, darell1976 said: Lost to USD last year, lost to SDSU so far this year. Your team winning at the dome is far from 100%. No need to egg on the trolls because NDSU lost today. Quote
darell1976 Posted October 16, 2016 Posted October 16, 2016 27 minutes ago, Cratter said: No need to egg on the trolls because NDSU lost today. Yeah you are right, since they got an egg in the win column today they shouldn't be egged on. 1 Quote
AJS Posted October 16, 2016 Posted October 16, 2016 Like a few people have said before, it's much easier to fall, than it is to rise in the rankings. Outside of true statement wins (i.e. beating another Top 25 team), I doubt you see anybody jump over a team that also won. UND is at #22 in the STATS poll (using that one, because that's what everyone seems to use on tv broadcasts). #17 Albany, #20 Harvard and #21 UNI all lost. I bet they'll either be 19 come Monday. Got to keep stacking wins! Quote
Popular Post Dagger Posted October 16, 2016 Popular Post Posted October 16, 2016 Some interesting side notes. Cal Poly went into Brookings and rolled SDSU(600 plus yards). UND rolled on Cal Poly (game wasn't as close as the score). SDSU rolled NDSU in Fargo(score should of been more lopsided. SDSU had around 550 yards of offense. The Big Sky leads the MVFC in head to head meetings this year. The brand of football being played in the Big Sky is very good this year. 12 Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted October 16, 2016 Posted October 16, 2016 13 hours ago, geaux_sioux said: Remember, we played without our best player today. I agree. My only major question of this team is the health. If Reyes and Stanley return soon, and the other major players like Studsrud remain healthy, then UND will be looking awful tough. Keep up the good work Bubba and squad! Quote
UNDBIZ Posted October 16, 2016 Posted October 16, 2016 Stanley had his knee iced for second half. No brace or anything though. Would think that's a good sign Quote
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