CMSioux Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Stupid...stupid...stupid...18 year old's make dumb decisions - but it's not something that should result in getting kicked off the team - plenty of other discipline options that will send a strong message. In the big picture it's a minor crime but they do need to be consistent in the way they handle these situations and anyone on scholarship does deserve to be held to a higher standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas rancher Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Clive George's arrested in February. Tried to hide that one. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 28 minutes ago, Texas rancher said: Clive George's arrested in February. Tried to hide that one. You're off by a year, friend. Mr. George's issue was in 2015. And they didn't hide it too well considering it took me all of 20 seconds to find a public record of the incident. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teeder11 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 1 hour ago, Texas rancher said: Clive George's arrested in February. Tried to hide that one. Yeah, really tried to hide it last year. I'm not sure what your definition of hiding is but this certain was out there. Just saying. http://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/und-football/3689948-und-football-player-arrested-marijuana-possession http://www.inforum.com/news/crime/3690583-und-football-transfer-arrested-marijuana-possession http://www.wdaz.com/news/3690591-recent-transfer-und-football-team-arrested-possession-marijuana 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibleedgreen Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 1 hour ago, Texas rancher said: Clive George's arrested in February. Tried to hide that one. You will have to excuse my friend....he's a little slow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ND1 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Very minor offenses...classified the same as a minor in posession. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 9 minutes ago, ND1 said: Very minor offenses...classified the same as a minor in posession. The hockey team has gotten a few of those over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMSioux Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Not an excuse - and they need to be punished - but the way public opinion is moving on MaryJane this is no worse than a minor in possession and should be treated as such ...unfortunately this will no doubt attract trolls - in the big picture, if handled appropriately and Bubba has proven it will be, it's a part of helping young adults make smarter decisions and holding them accountable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-FB-FAN Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Unfortunate situation and they will need to be punished, likely by sitting out a game or two. With that said, they're both young and deserve a chance to correct their behaviors while still playing UND football. Bubba will take care of this and I have faith this will smooth over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longtime fan Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 25 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said: Unfortunate situation and they will need to be punished, likely by sitting out a game or two. With that said, they're both young and deserve a chance to correct their behaviors while still playing UND football. Bubba will take care of this and I have faith this will smooth over. I feel the same. I would only imagine bubba is very angry and saddened. You would be hard pressed to find a better morally set person then bubba. He wants you to do the right thing in life but also realizes people can and will mistakes and he will forgive. It will now come will circumstances. He is a great coach on and off the field. He gives his everything for these kids and he expects that in return. He does not want und to be dirtied more so with any association related to him. He will do the right thing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post airmail Posted March 7, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted March 7, 2016 3 hours ago, ND1 said: Very minor offenses...classified the same as a minor in posession. While the classification may be the same, I think the stigma associated with each offense is very different. Say what you will about similar minor offenses, but an illegal drug violation irks this booster (and many others, I'd venture to guess) a lot more than a minor with a keg cup in his hand. (Yes, I'm too old fashioned, smoking pot is safe, cool and socially acceptable, yada yada yada.) 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ND1 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 I agree, but luckily for us the boosters do not decide the punishment.. Bubba does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundy1124 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 2 hours ago, ND1 said: I agree, but luckily for us the boosters do not decide the punishment.. Bubba does Not sure who 'us' is but opinions vary from please pass the joint to a 1-2 game suspension. I'm sure the punishment will fit somewhere in-between. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMSioux Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Do they always announcement punishments - for example if there is a cut in scholarship money that is invisible to the public while a suspension from playing is quite visible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperfan7 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 How does Cost of Attendance stipends get involved here? Is that something they can use as punishment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post geaux_sioux Posted March 7, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted March 7, 2016 9 minutes ago, Siouxperfan7 said: How does Cost of Attendance stipends get involved here? Is that something they can use as punishment? It probably allows them to afford a more potent product, reducing the gram amount in possession of which is better for everyone involved. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlsiouxfan Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 I'd actually be disappointed if Bubba enforces anything harsher than a 1 game suspension. If it were my decision I'd just have some extra conditioning for the team. We're really at the point where it's unethical for police departments to spend time enforcing these laws as it will be legal within the next decade. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teeder11 Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 7 minutes ago, dlsiouxfan said: I'd actually be disappointed if Bubba enforces anything harsher than a 1 game suspension. If it were my decision I'd just have some extra conditioning for the team. We're really at the point where it's really unethical for police departments to spend time enforcing these laws as it will be legal within the next decade. I held off on this comment a bit.... but on Tuesday there was "extra conditioning" taking place among the WR corps, everyone that is except for the two alleged offenders. They got to stand in the middle and watch -- Basic Training style. Bubba and Coach Freund got this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlsiouxfan Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 1 minute ago, Teeder11 said: I held off on this comment a bit.... but on Tuesday there was "extra conditioning" taking place among the WR corps, everyone that is except for the two alleged offenders. They got to stand in the middle and watch -- Basic Training style. Bubba and Coach Freund got this. Good call by Bubba... this is exactly the way to handle this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxfan512 Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 2 minutes ago, Teeder11 said: I held off on this comment a bit.... but on Tuesday there was "extra conditioning" taking place among the WR corps, everyone that is except for the two alleged offenders. They got to stand in the middle and watch -- Basic Training style. Bubba and Coach Freund got this. Good way to handle it by the coaches. Way better to punish everyone else, and make the offenders watch. Definitely a better impact. That being said, these kids did something stupid. they deserve to be suspended for the Stony Brook trip, and lets hope it doesn't happen again. I've said my bit ... time to move on from the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 18 hours ago, geaux_sioux said: It probably allows them to afford a more potent product, reducing the gram amount in possession of which is better for everyone involved. good point. it's basically the Finest Cannabis Offseason Allowance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 11 minutes ago, Siouxphan27 said: good point. it's basically the Finest Cannabis Offseason Allowance. At UND our athletes enjoy the finest of facilities and afford only the finest herbal supplements. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post airmail Posted March 8, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted March 8, 2016 3 hours ago, dlsiouxfan said: I'd actually be disappointed if Bubba enforces anything harsher than a 1 game suspension. If it were my decision I'd just have some extra conditioning for the team. We're really at the point where it's unethical for police departments to spend time enforcing these laws as it will be legal within the next decade. Unethical for police to enforce the law? Are you effin' kidding me? 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDColorado Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 1 minute ago, airmail said: Unethical for police to enforce the law? Are you effin' kidding me? He does have a point. I think it is more ethical to go after people for actual crimes: Vandalism, theft, assault, etc. For those who are not aware, life in Colorado has not changed much since legalization with two exception: 1) a lot of tax revenue 2) there was an influx of homeless but this will level off once other states legalize it...which is in the works. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnboyND7 Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 3 minutes ago, UNDColorado said: He does have a point. I think it is more ethical to go after people for actual crimes: Vandalism, theft, assault, etc. For those who are not aware, life in Colorado has not changed much since legalization with two exception: 1) a lot of tax revenue 2) there was an influx of homeless but this will level off once other states legalize it...which is in the works. Ok, what if the police officer just comes up on them doing it? Was it a sting operation? I agree that the other crimes are much more serious. I'm indifferent to it. Plenty of friends took part in that particular activity. All but one have stopped, as they have goals in their careers and failing a drug test isn't exactly going to help that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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