Indian nicknames in the news

[cberkas]

1 hour ago, 90siouxfan said:

Not familiar that situation...

Central Michigan is the Chippewas 

[zonadub]

14 hours ago, 90siouxfan said:

Been my opinion for a long time that removing the Fighting Sioux name was a Chippewa jab at a long time foe...

Agree +++++++  have always felt that way!

[Siouxperfan7]

Only a matter of time Bison fans!!

https://www.startribune.com/rochester-middle-school-must-change-mascots-after-failed-appeal-to-tribes/600343593/

[The Sicatoka]

We'll soon all be colors or numbers. 

[fightingsioux4life]

1 hour ago, Siouxperfan7 said:

Only a matter of time Bison fans!!

https://www.startribune.com/rochester-middle-school-must-change-mascots-after-failed-appeal-to-tribes/600343593/

I have been saying this for years, especially when Bison fans made fun of our predicament. They would just laugh at me and insist it wasn't the same thing. I for one would enjoy getting to laugh at them for a change.

[Siouxperfan7]

Hmm. Looks familiar!!!

https://www.northlandhockeygroup.com/aaa-hockey-teams/team/aaa-hockey-hawks/

[KSSioux]

Looks like the Blackhawks are now under more scrutiny about their nickname and logo:

Chicago Blackhawks Hit with Explosive New Lawsuit Over Alleged False Promises to Native Consultant (msn.com)

 

[cberkas]

2 hours ago, KSSioux said:

Looks like the Blackhawks are now under more scrutiny about their nickname and logo:

Chicago Blackhawks Hit with Explosive New Lawsuit Over Alleged False Promises to Native Consultant (msn.com)

 

Native American woman who worked as cultural advisor to Blackhawks sues team for sex harassment, fraud - CBS Chicago (cbsnews.com)

This adds more to it.

[cberkas]

So, Trump is getting involved in a New York High School's Native American mascot being removed.

'Will not stand by': Trump admin launches probe as uproar over mascot embroils community

[Frozen4sioux]

On 10/8/2024 at 3:19 PM, cberkas said:

Native American woman who worked as cultural advisor to Blackhawks sues team for sex harassment, fraud - CBS Chicago (cbsnews.com)

This adds more to it.

So let a career victimhood consultant in the door and when she doesn't get 100% her way......    cries more victimhood.

Who'd a thunk' it?.       

[siouxfaninseattle]

Not an Indian nickname but falls somewhat into the same category:

https://www.grandforksherald.com/news/north-dakota/dickinson-public-schools-select-new-mascot-to-replace-midgets

 

[Hayduke1]

11 hours ago, siouxfaninseattle said:

Not an Indian nickname but falls somewhat into the same category:

https://www.grandforksherald.com/news/north-dakota/dickinson-public-schools-select-new-mascot-to-replace-midgets

 

I was surprised they still had that name. 

 

[Siouxperfan7]

Waiting to see if Trump will comment on University Native American nicknames that were retired?!

[RhettRingers]

https://www.grandforksherald.com/news/local/grand-forks-resident-applies-for-fighting-sioux-trademarks-und-strongly-disputes

[Big Green]

12 minutes ago, RhettRingers said:

https://www.grandforksherald.com/news/local/grand-forks-resident-applies-for-fighting-sioux-trademarks-und-strongly-disputes

Didn't know you could apply for a trademark for something that is already trademarked.  Does seem like a good opportunity to generate a bunch of NIL money.  With all the L's the NCAA has been taking lately I don't think they would be a problem.  

[The Sicatoka]

2 minutes ago, Big Green said:

Didn't know you could apply for a trademark for something that is already trademarked.  

You can't, not for the same 'usage' at least. 

[ChadR]

11 minutes ago, Big Green said:

Didn't know you could apply for a trademark for something that is already trademarked.  Does seem like a good opportunity to generate a bunch of NIL money.  With all the L's the NCAA has been taking lately I don't think they would be a problem.  

UND made big mistake and let it lapse...this on them.

[The Sicatoka]

12 minutes ago, ChadR said:

UND made big mistake and let it lapse...this on them.

Did they? 

One Dacotah Legacy Collection hat with the name/logo in a store and the trademark is in use ... https://www.siouxshop.com/special-collections/traditions/ 

[jdub27]

Part of the nickname settlement required them to continue to hold the trademarks, thus the previously mentioned Dacotah Legacy Collection.

While I like the spirit of the idea to raise NIL funds, I don't think this is the way. Is the argument that they aren't using them enough? Not sure that qualifies to take someone's trademark, especially if they are still actively using them.

[Big Green]

27 minutes ago, jdub27 said:

Part of the nickname settlement required them to continue to hold the trademarks, thus the previously mentioned Dacotah Legacy Collection.

While I like the spirit of the idea to raise NIL funds, I don't think this is the way. Is the argument that they aren't using them enough? Not sure that qualifies to take someone's trademark, especially if they are still actively using them.

I think this is the perfect way.  I don't think the majority of people want to contribute to NIL if they are not getting something back.  Sioux name is not going anywhere and the university has failed to capitalize on it.  They have the Legacy collection and don't hardly have anything in it.  A lot of people will not buy fighting hawk merchandise no matter what. 

[jdub27]

2 hours ago, Big Green said:

I think this is the perfect way.  I don't think the majority of people want to contribute to NIL if they are not getting something back.  Sioux name is not going anywhere and the university has failed to capitalize on it.  They have the Legacy collection and don't hardly have anything in it.  A lot of people will not buy fighting hawk merchandise no matter what. 

Well, the first issue is UND is violation with their settlement agreement with the NCAA if they don't retain the trademark of the retired nickname and logo.

Second issue would be setting back whatever strides in rebranding (regardless of how small or large) and giving in to a very vocal minority group who mostly support the hockey team. Not saying there isn't a way to come up with a solution, but the Sioux Shop still sells Fighting Sioux merchandise. While the selection is intentionally limited, would be curious on what the sales for the Dacotah Legacy Collection actually is.

As to your point about people wanting to get something back, sure that is definitely fair and I agree with it. However, if you want talented rosters, the current set up requires funds to help pay for them. At this point, the return (is hopefully) winning games.