petey23 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Returning(as of now) Kierstad-L JBD-R Bast-R Frisch-R Rieger-R Coming in next season Sanderson-L Kleven-L Possible Miller-R Moore-L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
as15 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 51 minutes ago, cberkas said: This rights are for 4 years with a NCAA team 2 years with major junior team. So Moore would have to sign after his junior year. "A team has the rights of an NCAA player until 30 days after the player leaves the college." Think Danny Kristo, Mark MacMillan, etc. Players that played a year of juniors after being drafted, and then 4 years with UND. 5 years after being drafted, the NHL team that drafted them still holds their rights until the summer after leaving UND. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 53 minutes ago, petey23 said: Returning(as of now) Kierstad-L JBD-R Bast-R Frisch-R Rieger-R Coming in next season Sanderson-L Kleven-L Possible Miller-R Moore-L I think we have seen the end of Rieger on d. Seems like a certainty that Coop (I gave him a nickname!) comes in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey23 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 hour ago, as15 said: "A team has the rights of an NCAA player until 30 days after the player leaves the college." Think Danny Kristo, Mark MacMillan, etc. Players that played a year of juniors after being drafted, and then 4 years with UND. 5 years after being drafted, the NHL team that drafted them still holds their rights until the summer after leaving UND. I think that once you turn 21 you can declare yourself a pro or no loner an amateur athlete and then wait 30 days as well...Blake Wheeler took that route if I remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberkas Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 3 hours ago, as15 said: "A team has the rights of an NCAA player until 30 days after the player leaves the college." Think Danny Kristo, Mark MacMillan, etc. Players that played a year of juniors after being drafted, and then 4 years with UND. 5 years after being drafted, the NHL team that drafted them still holds their rights until the summer after leaving UND. They have 4 years to sign them to if they go NCAA. Thome should have had to sign with the Bluejackets after this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tho0505 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 8 hours ago, AJS said: Final 2020 Draft Rankings were released by Central Scouting: 4. Sanderson 42. Kleven 49. Miller 94. Kunz 119. Bowen 123. Halliday I do put a lot into these rankings as a phenomenal baseline. Of course guys will get taken before / behind of their "projection", but they do give great insight. Berry gave the names of 4 Forwards (Need 5) and 2 Defenseman (Need 3) that will be here next year. I would hope both Bowen and Halliday are pushed back to 2021. I thought Miller would sky rocket up the rankings. I would be more Ok with Moore coming in over Miller if it came down to only needing one of the two. To clarify: Bowen / Halliday / Miller are not part of the list Berry gave although I'm sure all are in the running for Final Spot. Keep in mind this list is North American draft rankings; Sanderson should probably go anywheres from 4-12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tho0505 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 3 hours ago, petey23 said: I think that once you turn 21 you can declare yourself a pro or no loner an amateur athlete and then wait 30 days as well...Blake Wheeler took that route if I remember. It's not based on the players age that defines if they are now FAs. That's why we're seeing college players get signed earlier and earlier as they have an option to go the FA route if they were drafted originally ie. Shane Gerisch signing after Junior year. If he hadn't, Washington risked losing him as a FA come the following July 1st. Here is a good article outlining it. https://www.defendingbigd.com/2017/8/18/16165916/draft-dodging-the-nhl-needs-to-fix-prospect-free-agency-rules-schultz-butcher-vesey-kerfoot-hayes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tho0505 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 https://www.nhl.com/multimedia/podcasts-draft-class A really good discussion on Jake Sanderson from Seth Appert of the NTDP. Sounds like the kid is an elite difference maker, I can't imagine having him and JBD on the blueline together... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
as15 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 48 minutes ago, cberkas said: They have 4 years to sign them to if they go NCAA. Thome should have had to sign with the Bluejackets after this season. They hold their rights for 4 years from draft day, or until after they leave college, the quote I put was from the NHL draft site and their are literally hundreds of examples of the scenario occurring where a drafted player plays a year of juniors after getting drafted and then plays 4 years of college. NHL teams will hold your rights until Aug. 15 after your last year of college, at which point you'd become a free agent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southpaw Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 7 hours ago, as15 said: They hold their rights for 4 years from draft day, or until after they leave college, the quote I put was from the NHL draft site and their are literally hundreds of examples of the scenario occurring where a drafted player plays a year of juniors after getting drafted and then plays 4 years of college. NHL teams will hold your rights until Aug. 15 after your last year of college, at which point you'd become a free agent. Exactly. For players who were drafted and played two years of juniors, they could then officially declare after their sophomore year that they're no longer going to be a student. Wait until mid August and they're now a free agent. However, if they choose to play for 3 or 4 years of college, the NHL team would still have their rights up until August 15 of the last year they play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scpa0305 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 On 4/8/2020 at 3:14 PM, as15 said: Why only two years? Once enrolled, they won't lose his NHL rights until he leaves UND. 4 years after draft year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scpa0305 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 On 4/8/2020 at 8:54 PM, as15 said: They hold their rights for 4 years from draft day, or until after they leave college, the quote I put was from the NHL draft site and their are literally hundreds of examples of the scenario occurring where a drafted player plays a year of juniors after getting drafted and then plays 4 years of college. NHL teams will hold your rights until Aug. 15 after your last year of college, at which point you'd become a free agent. What I’m saying is the player has the option to become a free agent 4 years after their draft year, so teams risk losing the player. So typically teams go all in on signing their players, at the latest, after the 4th year after the players draft year. Unless the player hasn’t developed which is obviously less of a risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scpa0305 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Mitchell Miller and Riese Gaber both All-USHL First Team selections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJS Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Is there any doubt that Mitchell Miller will be the 3rd Freshman Defenseman brought in this year? I've done the comparisons before. Experience: Miller: 2 Years Junior Experience International Experience Hlinka WJAC (X2) Moore: 1 Year Junior Experience Performance: Miller: USHL 1st Team Draft: Miller: 3rd / 4th Round (Most Likely) Moore: 5th Round I think Moore is a great player, but Miller's resume is better in every way. I don't see any way if it's one or the other, that Miller isn't the guy. Now, I do hope they get creative, because I don't want to lose either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaMikeFoxtrot Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 4 hours ago, scpa0305 said: Mitchell Miller and Riese Gaber both All-USHL First Team selections. Both were originally Miami commits, right? Or just Gaber? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxforce19 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Just now, AlphaMikeFoxtrot said: Both were originally Miami commits, right? Or just Gaber? Gaber was Western Mich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxczech29 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 19 hours ago, AJS said: Is there any doubt that Mitchell Miller will be the 3rd Freshman Defenseman brought in this year? I've done the comparisons before. Experience: Miller: 2 Years Junior Experience International Experience Hlinka WJAC (X2) Moore: 1 Year Junior Experience Performance: Miller: USHL 1st Team Draft: Miller: 3rd / 4th Round (Most Likely) Moore: 5th Round I think Moore is a great player, but Miller's resume is better in every way. I don't see any way if it's one or the other, that Miller isn't the guy. Now, I do hope they get creative, because I don't want to lose either. I think someone had suggested previously that they might bring in 4 defensemen (Sanderson, Kleven, Miller, and Moore) and move Rieger to a F/D role like they did with Casey Johnson. I think this makes a lot of sense. Then they would bring in 4 forwards (Gaber, Rizzo, Ness, and Budy). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJS Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 53 minutes ago, siouxczech29 said: I think someone had suggested previously that they might bring in 4 defensemen (Sanderson, Kleven, Miller, and Moore) and move Rieger to a F/D role like they did with Casey Johnson. I think this makes a lot of sense. Then they would bring in 4 forwards (Gaber, Rizzo, Ness, and Budy). That's a great idea. I do remember seeing the suggestion of moving Rieger to Forward, but I never took the next logical step of then only bringing in four forwards. Sign me up for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scpa0305 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Riese Gaber USHL Player of the Year and Forward of the year. He's going to get drafted I'm sure as an overager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tbone Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 I thought that he would be too old to be drafted. Couldn’t see it though, I haven’t felt that over agers get much of a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scpa0305 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 16 hours ago, Tbone said: I thought that he would be too old to be drafted. Couldn’t see it though, I haven’t felt that over agers get much of a look. Has he aged out? Maybe. Youre right overagers rarely get picked but every once in awhile they go. Ladue, Poolman, etc all got drafted in their last year of eligibility. You could be right though not sure if gaber has aged out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDPUCKS Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Article on Mr. Sanderson. https://www.tsn.ca/talent/smooth-skating-jake-sanderson-surging-up-draft-boards-1.1470302 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianvf Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Nice article on incoming forward Gaber: https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/hockey/6287186-Riese-Gaber-becomes-first-UND-bound-player-to-win-USHL-Player-of-the-Year-in-more-than-a-decade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burd Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 33 minutes ago, brianvf said: Nice article on incoming forward Gaber: https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/hockey/6287186-Riese-Gaber-becomes-first-UND-bound-player-to-win-USHL-Player-of-the-Year-in-more-than-a-decade Wow. Whole package--skill, work ethic, character. Sounds smart, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
as15 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, burd said: Wow. Whole package--skill, work ethic, character. Sounds smart, too. Goal scorer, undersized, undrafted, great junior career. Ryan Duncan anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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