keikla Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 I completely agree with you on the Seth Jones comment. I also appreciated how he handled the situation. The difference is probably that Seth Jones was a lotto pick where every team in US and Canada will hold their breath for him. I don't think UND would hold their breath for Mantha. Had he not committed last year....they simply would have found some other kid. Mantha doesn't have that kind of pull. Which is what confuses me all the more for why he'd go OHL. It sounds like he needs the extra time to develop. If he's worried about cracking the line-up due to a deep D roster, how does he think he's going to make it as a pro? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Ranger Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Which is what confuses me all the more for why he'd go OHL. It sounds like he needs the extra time to develop. If he's worried about cracking the line-up due to a deep D roster, how does he think he's going to make it as a pro? He should actually be lined up to play quite a bit I would imagine right away. We will lose Mattson and Panzarella for sure and probably Schmaltz. This would leave us with 5 D returning and Chartrand and himself coming in for sure. I think he would be pegged for that 6th D spot. If it was this coming year, than yes I don't think he would see much icetime. Shaw, Evers and Pelnik are also possibilities but I see them playing another year of juniors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZSIOUX Posted June 2, 2014 Author Share Posted June 2, 2014 It's open season these days with recruits. I don't blame anyone who is 17/18 years old on the route they decide to take between college and major juniors. Yeah some situations could be handled different but it's the way the recruiting game is played these days for potential future nhlers. The coaches know for the most part when they have a MJ risk at hand when recruiting certain players. Ive noticed Hak and co have changed their recruiting going very local last couple years of verbals.. The Sioux will be a very heavy local/semi local in the next few years, now a few high ends can still bolt for MJ but the trend of kids haks landed lately have a lot of green blood in them in one way or another . Verbals are what they are and things have been changing with the MJ battles. Hak and co. should screw the gentlemens agreement as well. Go sioux! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianvf Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 He should actually be lined up to play quite a bit I would imagine right away. Agreed. That argument doesn't make much sense. And exactly, if he is worried about cracking the lineup at UND...best of luck as a pro! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scpa0305 Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Which is what confuses me all the more for why he'd go OHL. It sounds like he needs the extra time to develop. If he's worried about cracking the line-up due to a deep D roster, how does he think he's going to make it as a pro? These kids are looking for a bunch of PT now....not in two years. He'll get that in the ohl as he'll be older. But you're right, if he's good enough to play pro (in a few years, as he'll age out of the o) he should be able to fight his way through our D lineup...one would think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keikla Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 The coaches know for the most part when they have a MJ risk at hand when recruiting certain players. Ive noticed Hak and co have changed their recruiting going very local last couple years of verbals.. The Sioux will be a very heavy local/semi local in the next few years, now a few high ends can still bolt for MJ but the trend of kids haks landed lately have a lot of green blood in them in one way or another . Verbals are what they are and things have been changing with the MJ battles. Hak and co. should screw the gentlemens agreement as well. Go sioux! Local and family connections. I think if Jordan didn't play here, Nick would be a much higher flight risk than he is. That's the way to go. In other important news, my softball team only lost 12-7 for our first game, which is significantly closer than expected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZSIOUX Posted June 3, 2014 Author Share Posted June 3, 2014 Local and family connections. I think if Jordan didn't play here, Nick would be a much higher flight risk than he is. That's the way to go. In other important news, my softball team only lost 12-7 for our first game, which is significantly closer than expected Agree on the schmaltz brothers. Nick is the most high end forward the sioux have landed since Oshie stafford zajac style first round guys. Can't wait to see him on the ice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZSIOUX Posted June 3, 2014 Author Share Posted June 3, 2014 Top 100 draft prospects get invited Gersich was top at combine in vertek vert jump, standing long jump and hand eye test. Gersich also 3rd in leg peak power Leg power average Mantha was 8th overall Left hex agility , paganski 9th and schmaltz 10th Mean power outlook schmaltz 4th, Gersich 8th Did Gersich accelerate his school to be able to come in if so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 In other important news, my softball team only lost 12-7 for our first game, which is significantly closer than expected 0-1 on the season? It's time for a head coaching change... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxScore Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Top 100 draft prospects get invited Gersich was top at combine in vertek vert jump, standing long jump and hand eye test. Gersich also 3rd in leg peak power Leg power average Mantha was 8th overall Left hex agility , paganski 9th and schmaltz 10th Mean power outlook schmaltz 4th, Gersich 8th Did Gersich accelerate his school to be able to come in if so? Don't recall if we ever heard anything definitive on whether Gersich was accelerating or not but could that be why they haven't announced the incoming recruits yet? Maybe waiting to see if Gersich will be able to come in this fall or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keikla Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 0-1 on the season? It's time for a head coaching change... Preferably to someone who doesn't create the lineup based entirely on order of arrival at the field... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 0-1 on the season? It's time for a head coaching change... Fire keikla. Save season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxweet Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Hak should instill a policy that if a recruit starts to flirt with the possibility of going the major junior route he should immediately pull the offer and move on. you either want to come here or you don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southpaw Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Preferably to someone who doesn't create the lineup based entirely on order of arrival at the field... If you were a true sioux fan you would understand that's how hak picks the starters. Go back to the bandwagon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Top 100 draft prospects get invited Gersich was top at combine in vertek vert jump, standing long jump and hand eye test. Gersich also 3rd in leg peak power Leg power average Mantha was 8th overall Left hex agility , paganski 9th and schmaltz 10th Mean power outlook schmaltz 4th, Gersich 8th Did Gersich accelerate his school to be able to come in if so? Were any of them able to do a pull-up? http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/06/nhl-draft-sam-bennett-pull-up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxczech29 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Don't recall if we ever heard anything definitive on whether Gersich was accelerating or not but could that be why they haven't announced the incoming recruits yet? Maybe waiting to see if Gersich will be able to come in this fall or not? When do they typically announce incoming freshmen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxperseven Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Were any of them able to do a pull-up? http://ftw.usatoday....bennett-pull-up Now that's funny. A friends kid recently had to do the same testing and he did 23 pull-ups and he weigh's 179 pounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 When do they typically announce incoming freshmen? Soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericpnelson Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Soon. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey23 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxScore Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 When do they typically announce incoming freshmen? Seems to be different every year sometimes earlier and sometimes later. Last years class was released on May 17th and the year before was May 23rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Ranger Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Seems to be different every year sometimes earlier and sometimes later. Last years class was released on May 17th and the year before was May 23rd. I'm thinking the Gersich acceleration might just be the reason we haven't heard as of yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scpa0305 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I'm thinking the Gersich acceleration might just be the reason we haven't heard as of yet. Agreed, I think he's getting a spot next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxScore Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I'm thinking the Gersich acceleration might just be the reason we haven't heard as of yet. That would be my guess as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 ? Meaning, that Jayson told me that UND will release the final roster this summer. In my world, that would be soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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