fightingsioux4life Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 I think you need to give SCSU more credit than you are right now. They are a good team. They were last year and are this year. However, we are/should be one of the Alabamas of college hockey. We are not playing as our team should and is expected to play. We lost to a good team. But a sweep, regardless of the team, at the home is completely unacceptable. Getting swept at home by Michigan Tech in 2006 was way worse than this. But you are right, this is completely unacceptable for a program of our caliber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNF Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 My biggest concern is that the same patterns emerge each year and we have not evolved as a program which falls on the coaching staff. In the Frozen Fours of the past, BC taught the college hockey world that UND is dreadfully awful against a neutral zone trap. Now UMD and St. CLOUD have taken note and use it very successfully against us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 My biggest concern is that the same patterns emerge each year and we have not evolved as a program which falls on the coaching staff. In the Frozen Fours of the past, BC taught the college hockey world that UND is dreadfully awful against a neutral zone trap. Now UMD and St. CLOUD have taken note and use it very successfully against us. I am afraid that your points will fall on deaf ears on this forum. FWIW, I agree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXELEVENS Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Hakstol has them playing great hockey right now. Maybe they can get a two for one buyout with muss. Very difficult game to sit through, is the power play a peewee or squirt plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 who here needs a lesson on the trap? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDtoGF Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 who here needs a lesson on the trap? I could use one. (Not joking). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farce poobah Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 hak gives coach's speak because he is a coach.... why cant und ever get a coach that says it like it is? I think dale was. Gino Gasparini "If the puck could talk, tonight it would have cried." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MafiaMan Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 ...because scsu really isn't that good of a team. And what exactly are you basing this opinion on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXELEVENS Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 who here needs a lesson on the trap? Hakstol, Berry and Jackson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLap2 Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Anybody else watch in frustration how the Macmillan line kept the puck behind the net for the whole shift not doing anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Just got home...tired. 2 points now with more to come tomorrow. 1) When #2 is your most consistent and dependable player every night...others need to pull up their breezers. 2) If you are 5 ft. nothing and are "dynamic"and "electric" with a dream of playing in the NHL you have to bury the puck often at this level...especially with the opportunity of 3 breakways in one game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissSioux85 Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 I thought this was an interesting quote considering the discussion on here after Friday's game "People like to label us as a young team,'' Stecher said, "but that's not our excuse now, We've been here two months.'' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Anybody else watch in frustration how the Macmillan line kept the puck behind the net for the whole shift not doing anything? Ding ding ding... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 I thought this was an interesting quote considering the discussion on here after Friday's game And this is why he'll wear a "C" before he leaves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Some thoughts: ~UND didn't exactly get swept by the little sisters of the poor. SCSU is a pretty good hockey club. So I'm not jumping off any ledges yet. ~I'm upset that they didn't test Faragher at all during this series. Probably one of his easier weekends in a SCSU jersey. ~Stecher was UND's best player this weekend. I don't think I can remember a time when a Freshman defenseman was UND's best player for an entire weekend. ~The one area that was pretty consistent was goaltending. Zane was steady all weekend. ~Hak said post game that the effort was there. A bit concerning because SCSU dominated play for some prolonged stretches. Its November. I didn't have this team winning the NCHC. And I'm sure glad that trophies aren't handed out in November. I think UND has played the top two teams in the league with mixed results. They've put themselves in a hole early, but at the same time there are plenty of league games left to get into the mix. I remember a few years ago UND got swept at home by Michigan Tech in the middle of December. I was ticked, I threw stuff around the house, and vowed that that team wasn't going anywhere.....well, that team proved me wrong. I think this team will prove some doubters wrong eventually too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianvf Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 ~Stecher was UND's best player this weekend. I don't think I can remember a time when a Freshman defenseman was UND's best player for an entire weekend. Roche had that poise with the puck as a freshman. I don't remember a frosh UND dman since then though that matched Stecher in that regard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Funny that for my money the two best fr defensemen are former commits of other schools? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Some thoughts: ~UND didn't exactly get swept by the little sisters of the poor. SCSU is a pretty good hockey club. So I'm not jumping off any ledges yet. ~I'm upset that they didn't test Faragher at all during this series. Probably one of his easier weekends in a SCSU jersey. ~Stecher was UND's best player this weekend. I don't think I can remember a time when a Freshman defenseman was UND's best player for an entire weekend. ~The one area that was pretty consistent was goaltending. Zane was steady all weekend. ~Hak said post game that the effort was there. A bit concerning because SCSU dominated play for some prolonged stretches. Its November. I didn't have this team winning the NCHC. And I'm sure glad that trophies aren't handed out in November. I think UND has played the top two teams in the league with mixed results. They've put themselves in a hole early, but at the same time there are plenty of league games left to get into the mix. I remember a few years ago UND got swept at home by Michigan Tech in the middle of December. I was ticked, I threw stuff around the house, and vowed that that team wasn't going anywhere.....well, that team proved me wrong. I think this team will prove some doubters wrong eventually too. Dude that's a good post, I put it up on my blog for others to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberkas Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Some thoughts: ~UND didn't exactly get swept by the little sisters of the poor. SCSU is a pretty good hockey club. So I'm not jumping off any ledges yet. ~I'm upset that they didn't test Faragher at all during this series. Probably one of his easier weekends in a SCSU jersey. ~Stecher was UND's best player this weekend. I don't think I can remember a time when a Freshman defenseman was UND's best player for an entire weekend. ~The one area that was pretty consistent was goaltending. Zane was steady all weekend. ~Hak said post game that the effort was there. A bit concerning because SCSU dominated play for some prolonged stretches. Its November. I didn't have this team winning the NCHC. And I'm sure glad that trophies aren't handed out in November. I think UND has played the top two teams in the league with mixed results. They've put themselves in a hole early, but at the same time there are plenty of league games left to get into the mix. I remember a few years ago UND got swept at home by Michigan Tech in the middle of December. I was ticked, I threw stuff around the house, and vowed that that team wasn't going anywhere.....well, that team proved me wrong. I think this team will prove some doubters wrong eventually too. Zane had a goal each night that he shouldn't have let in (the first one tonight and the second on Friday). I don't see how nobody can make passes consistently. (tape to tape passes, not in the skates) Entries into the offensive zone, either chip the puck off the boards and use the speed this team has the beat the defenseman or throw the puck in the corner and go get it. Ringing the puck around the boards makes it easier for the other team to break the puck out. Power Play is atrocious, can't set it up, entry into the zone is stopped on the blue line or someone rings the puck around the boards. The power play need crisp passes, the guys need to move to get open when they don't have the puck, and puck movement. It's not hard to beat UND's power play when the guys out there stand there or stand in a spot and stick handle. How about the coach in charge of the power play try 4 forward and 1 defenseman. Why were there times in the offensive that all 3 forward are below the red line trying to get the puck out of a corner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Last night's game revolved around 2 plays IMO: 1) Rocco's inability to score SH 2 minutes in on a breakaway. 2) Zane's misplaying a cover up of a rebound that gives SCSU an easy 1st goal. If both of those go UND's favor, heck if only one does...I think we don't get swept at home...for 1st time in roughly 4 years. We cannot transition up the ice out of our D zone at all. Horrible passing or chip it out off the boards or glass. Rocco has to get going for this team to have a shot. Luke needs to center that line next week. Mark Mac's line just has to show up next week and that will be an improvement. Assuming Colton can't go...Chyzyk Tambo Murphy then Patty Gaarder Rodwell. Panz needs to play. He and Rodwell need to provide some grit at this point. I still like the make up on this team but we are an easy team to play against right now. UND can't give goals away in net though and can't take consecutive shifts off. I'll echo Wilbur...Stecher is the most complete Fr. Dman I've seen in the last 15+ years at UND. 3 straight NCHC losses...bleeding needs to stop in Omaha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprig Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Although a good bounce or finishing a few good chances may have resulted in a win either night for the Sioux, SC controlled most of both games, in all three zones. The only thing the Sioux had an edge in was faceoffs, and that didn't result in the puck possession time one would expect. The bigger SC D and forwards consistently won board battles with both the Sioux D and forwards; the only forward I saw that won several board battles was Tambellini, and he may have been out there against the smaller of the SC D when he won them. This Sioux team probably has to change the way they play, since they are rather small this year. It was striking to see most of the ND Dmen next to the SC forwards. They looked tiny by comparison. Guess we'll find out if this team learns to play a BC type game, as their size will dictate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willythekid Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 There is no question, the boys got punched in the mouth this weekend... hopefully they learn from this and recover. If they don't, it will be a long season. On a side note, did anyone notice Parks swing his stick and make contact with a st cloud players head? This was right after he was put on his butt and embarrassed trying to cross the center line with the puck. It sure looked to me like he tried to do it on purpose and if that is the case he should sit a game or two. Absolutely no room for that in hockey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iluvdebbies Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 how short of leash is hak on? First period Friday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Mark Mac's line just has to show up next week and that will be an improvement. The Junior class showed signs the first couple weeks, but have done very little since. We need more than just minutes from these guys, and I am lumping Rocco in this group as well. Seeing Parks get hammered at the blue line with about 6 minutes left in the game pretty much summed up the entire weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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