Facilities Master Plan

[fightingsioux4life]

Just now, Goon said:

That's not exactly what Kris Engelstad McGarry said. 

Those aren't the comments I was referring to. And I am not giving Kennedy a pass, he was a prick during his negotiations with KEM. But I simply do not trust her.

[gfhockey]

Kennedy didn’t even try to negotiare

 

it was his way or no way

[fightingsioux4life]

13 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

Kennedy didn’t even try to negotiare

 

it was his way or no way

Very true. Which is one reason why he isn't here anymroe.

[Cratter]

Pretty sure KEM gave REA money for the new scoreboard.

She said she wouldn't give money to UND while Kennedy was there. 

(Personal relationship stuff. It happens.)

And she simply pointed out she has no real loyalty to UND. 

(I also don't have any loyalty to my dad's college I never attended a 1000 miles away.)

Nothing she said was controversial in any way.

[jdub27]

2 hours ago, fightingsioux4life said:

High horse? She has stated in the past that her father felt loyalty and attachment to UND, but since she went to UNLV, she does not. How else am I supposed to interpret that? Her dishonest behavior during the dispute with Kennedy (whom I also am not a big fan of) soured me on her as an honest broker. Ralph would never have behaved that way. Ralph was one of us. She is not.

If she makes a big donation to UND, I'll admit I was wrong. But I think we'll be waiting for that for a long time.

Yeah, you're misconstruing and/or misremember what she said (but I'm happy to stand corrected if you find something that says something else).
Plenty to be critical of but that ain't it.

Their foundation continues to be large supporters of UND whether it be privately or publicly.
They continue to have good relationships with important people. After meeting the new President, I would think that bridge will be mended as well.

[fightingsioux4life]

1 minute ago, jdub27 said:

Yeah, you're misconstruing and/or misremember what she said (but I'm happy to stand corrected if you find something that says something else).
Plenty to be critical of but that ain't it.

Their foundation continues to be large supporters of UND whether it be privately or publicly.
They continue to have good relationships with important people. After meeting the new President, I would think that bridge will be mended as well.

I certainly hope you are right about this.

[Cratter]

Let's be honest.

Ralph would absolutely act in the same way.

Guy was about to let the arena burn to the ground midway through construction. 

Where you think KEM gets it from. 

[fightingsioux4life]

2 minutes ago, Cratter said:

Pretty sure KEM gave REA money for the new scoreboard.

She said she wouldn't give money to UND while Kennedy was there. 

(Personal relationship stuff. It happens.)

And she simply pointed out she has no real loyalty to UND. 

(I also don't have any loyalty to my dad's college I never attended a 1000 miles away.)

Nothing she said was controversial in any way.

But people act like she is the reincarnation of Ralph Engelstad. She shares DNA with Ralph. Nothing more. People need to stop talking like they are one and the same.

Also, her dishonesty in her dealings with Kennedy mean she cannot be trusted.

[fightingsioux4life]

1 minute ago, Cratter said:

Let's be honest.

Ralph would absutely act in the same way.

Guy was about to let the arena burn to the ground midway through construction. 

Where you think KEM gets it from. 

Would Ralph have run to the Heraldo and spread bald-faced lies about Kennedy's office not contacting her to discuss the situation? Kennedy's office produced e-mails that proved he indeed did reach out to her. I don't think you build a business empire like Ralph did by doing stuff like that. Trust is the coin of the realm, no matter what business you are in.

[UNDBIZ]

28 minutes ago, Cratter said:

Let's be honest.

Ralph would absutely act in the same way.

Guy was about to let the arena burn to the ground midway through construction. 

Where you think KEM gets it from. 

Didn't Ralph run president Baker out of town? 

[jdub27]

1 hour ago, fightingsioux4life said:

But people act like she is the reincarnation of Ralph Engelstad. She shares DNA with Ralph. Nothing more. People need to stop talking like they are one and the same.

Also, her dishonesty in her dealings with Kennedy mean she cannot be trusted.

Again, this is all your opinion and nothing more.
KEM is not Ralph but if you think the only thing they share is DNA, than you're the one who "needs to stop talking".
Plenty of blame to go around with what happened with her and Kennedy and I'm not going to use a single point of reference as the only point of reference.

If she truly didn't care about anything related to UND, she wouldn't remain on or actively involved with the REA Board of Directors or still be very involved with the Engelstad Foundation which is still very generous to UND.
I have openly disagreed with some things but you're so far gone on the subject, you are only going to see and believe what you want.  

[nodak651]

4 hours ago, gfhockey said:

Kennedy didn’t even try to negotiare

 

it was his way or no way

Pretty sure they negotiated and came to a new agreement, but he didn't get what he truly wanted, which was a larger % of ticket revenue if I recall correctly.

[BarnWinterSportsEngelstad]

16 hours ago, fightingsioux4life said:

Would Ralph have run to the Heraldo and spread bald-faced lies

This is kind of what our country is turning to. 
The last guy is still crying.

[geaux_sioux]

3 hours ago, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said:

This is kind of what our country is turning to. 
The last guy is still crying.

Turning to? The papers used to be called rags for a reason.

[UND-FB-FAN]

Engelstad funding model for UND athletics is less than ideal but it is the reality for UND DI athletics. The REA “gift” will allow the Engelstads to have UND by the throat until they dissociate … like ~ 2030 or so if that really ever happens. 
 

Hopefully when one of you on this board strikes millions/billions, you remember to right the ship and donate it to UND athletics with more of a fair share model …

[Oxbow6]

What does anyone associated with the Englelstad family or Foundation owe UND at this point?? Obviously I'm missing something after reading some of this verbal nausea.

[iramurphy]

On 10/8/2021 at 10:23 AM, fightingsioux4life said:

Which we'll never see a dime of. She doesn't care about UND or our programs; she has made that clear from the beginning.

She and the Foundation continue to support UND. 

[geaux_sioux]

6 hours ago, iramurphy said:

She and the Foundation continue to support UND. 

UND or the hockey team?

[FSSD]

7 hours ago, geaux_sioux said:

Turning to? The papers used to be called rags for a reason.

William Randolph Hearst - yellow journalism..  I think they call it guerrilla journalism now..

[nodak651]

9 hours ago, Oxbow6 said:

What does anyone associated with the Englelstad family or Foundation owe UND at this point?? Obviously I'm missing something after reading some of this verbal nausea.

Did UND get its 500k minimum payout from the ralph this past year?

[iramurphy]

5 hours ago, geaux_sioux said:

UND or the hockey team?

Either or. 

[nodak651]

On 8/25/2021 at 10:16 AM, geaux_sioux said:

They’re waiting on the state board probably.

Do you know when the next meeting is?  

[The Sicatoka]

56 minutes ago, nodak651 said:

Do you know when the next meeting is?  

https://ndus.edu/sbhe-overview/agendas-minutes-videos/ 

That was difficult.  

[BarnWinterSportsEngelstad]

Gamble Hall received some oxygen. Seems to be a reliable source, GOBC.
After current tenants move into new Business School, Merrifield hall professors and students will migrate to Gamble.
$50M

[nodak651]

I think this is a new rendering