gfhockey Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 Sather was chaves guy from start sather wouldn’t have applied here if it wasn’t for chaves Quote
Goon Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 2 hours ago, HoopsFan03 said: Is that in just conference games? When I looked it up I saw him at a decent amount better than that. 36-69 overall record in first 4 years I thought it was 37-72 they had the traffic on the TV this past weekend. Quote
Siouxperfan7 Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 Sather is gone. The writing is on the wall. With only one year left on his contract, it's not going to be a huge buyout. Announcement should be made the day after their eventual loss in the Summit League Tournament. Hit the ground running and have this position open right away. 2 Quote
NewUndFan Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Siouxperfan7 said: Sather is gone. The writing is on the wall. With only one year left on his contract, it's not going to be a huge buyout. Announcement should be made the day after their eventual loss in the Summit League Tournament. Hit the ground running and have this position open right away. You have any inside information or you are guessing? Anything he could do in the up coming games that could change this? I am ready for a change and new direction so I am all on board! Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 If Chaves extends Sather, it is Chaves that needs to be shown the door. 1 3 Quote
nodak651 Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Siouxperfan7 said: Sather is gone. The writing is on the wall. With only one year left on his contract, it's not going to be a huge buyout. Announcement should be made the day after their eventual loss in the Summit League Tournament. Hit the ground running and have this position open right away. Und has to accept applications for like 14 or 30 days right? Why not start process now and have interim coach? Could announce or inform players of who the new coach will be soon after the season ends, which could help to retain key players. Would also give the new coach more time to recruit before next season. Also gives our assistant a chance to show what he can do in the meantime. Quote
jdub27 Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 13 hours ago, GoodGood said: Can’t extend him. Can’t have a coach on a one year contract. I think it’s obvious what needs to be done. I would need to see an example of a coach turning it around after having a 3-24 stretch in conference play in years 3 and 4 or later in a program I wouldn't normally condone it, but with the way things have changed, mainly with the transfer portal, I wouldn't be surprised to see it. 12 hours ago, HoopsFan03 said: Which is fair. Sather also had a decent record his first year here with Jones’s guys. Take that year out and below 30% win rate. It just goes to show that he hasn’t been a good recruiter on top of him not being a good basketball coach. So he was clearly an upgrade over the prior coach? Too bad the program was already spiraling before he showed up. Two freshman of the year (regardless of whether they were pushed into extended playing time) that have other D1 offers disagrees with part of your recruiting comments. Now if you said trouble retaining talent, then we might be on to something. 12 hours ago, gfhockey said: Sather was chaves guy from start sather wouldn’t have applied here if it wasn’t for chaves Oh really? What was the connection to get him to apply? 15 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said: If Chaves extends Sather, it is Chaves that needs to be shown the door. I'd really like to know where his narrative is coming from? I don't think anyone has advocated or even thought an extension is on the table. The only way I could see that remotely happening is if the team shows a little more life the rest of the season, Sather can show he has a vision and the future is on the roster and those on the roster make it clear they aren't staying if Sather leaves. And at that point, you're likely talking a 1 year extension to show that it will work. Again, no is advocating for this, but this is the only way I see this made up scenario people railing against being even a possibility. On the flip side, a group could get together, present the check for the buyout of next year's contract, and we move on. I'm sure we have some people here who are ready to write a check to help out their cause. Quote
sioux24/7 Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, nodak651 said: Und has to accept applications for like 14 or 30 days right? Why not start process now and have interim coach? Could announce or inform players of who the new coach will be soon after the season ends, which could help to retain key players. Would also give the new coach more time to recruit before next season. Also gives our assistant a chance to show what he can do in the meantime. The job only has to be open for 3 days minimum. Quote
UNDBB75 Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 16 minutes ago, sioux24/7 said: The job only has to be open for 3 days minimum. Quote
UNDBB75 Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 Chaves had already picked Sather before interviewing the other finalists. Herbst should have been the guy then and before Jones was hired. IMHO if that would have happened we wouldn't be having this conversation now. Quote
Kab Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 23 minutes ago, sioux24/7 said: The job only has to be open for 3 days minimum. South Dakota does it right has a coach the day the football,coach retired how often does the AD meet with coaches during the year to see how things are going or raise concerns? Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 29 minutes ago, jdub27 said: I'd really like to know where his narrative is coming from? I don't think anyone has advocated or even thought an extension is on the table. I said IF he extends Sather. Whether he does it or not remains to be seen. Letting Sather coach for his job next season is also a possibility. Chaves is an empty suit. We could do much better in that position. Quote
jdub27 Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 5 minutes ago, HoopsFan03 said: It's not even worth it to respond to jdub anymore. All he does is twist peoples words or take them out of context. Then he provides statements with no reasoning or backup to those statements, all to defend the very sub-par UND athletic programs. And then say that it is us fans job to decide what to do with the current coach, who should be the next coach, and that we should all pay to get rid of them. Acting as if that is our jobs to do and not the AD/schools. Speaking of twisting words and taking out of context... What exactly do you think happens when AD's are weighing the cost/benefit of letting a coach go and buy-outs occur? That last few big ones at UND were more than funded by general operating funds. And that is what happens across the country. Quote
SiouxBoys Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 6 minutes ago, HoopsFan03 said: It's not even worth it to respond to jdub anymore. All he does is twist peoples words or take them out of context. Then he provides statements with no reasoning or backup to those statements, all to defend the very sub-par UND athletic programs. And then say that it is us fans job to decide what to do with the current coach, who should be the next coach, and that we should all pay to get rid of them. Acting as if that is our jobs to do and not the AD/schools. "This is a public forum for people to post their thoughts. If you can't handle that or don't want to read that then get out. It is that simple." Quote
SiouxBoys Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 Just now, HoopsFan03 said: Oh wow another minion. I am going to have to update my shirt! Posting your own words makes me a minion? Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 7 minutes ago, SiouxBoys said: "This is a public forum for people to post their thoughts. If you can't handle that or don't want to read that then get out. It is that simple." Which is something that @jdub27has never understood. He seems to think that everything should be positive on a message board. Well, the world ain't 100% positive, so that kind of Ducky and Bunny thinking simply does not work. 1 Quote
SiouxBoys Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 Just now, fightingsioux4life said: Which is something that @jdub27has never understood. He seems to think that everything should be positive on a message board. Well, the world ain't 100% positive, so that kind of Ducky and Bunny thinking simply does not work. And @HoopsFan03 thinks everybody should be negative. Shockingly, you seem to be missing the point. 1 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 11 minutes ago, jdub27 said: Speaking of twisting words and taking out of context... What exactly do you think happens when AD's are weighing the cost/benefit of letting a coach go and buy-outs occur? That last few big ones at UND were more than funded by general operating funds. And that is what happens across the country. What is the "benefit" of keeping Sather? The farther the program sinks into the abyss, the fewer butts will be in the seats of the BESC. And the farther it sinks, the harder it will be to pull out. There is ZERO buzz about MBB at UND right now. ZERO. That doesn't generate revenues. Quote
GoodGood Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, SiouxBoys said: And @HoopsFan03 thinks everybody should be negative. Shockingly, you seem to be missing the point. What has there been to be positive about with UND basketball in the last 3 years? We’re the laughing stock of the Summit League. We’re a bottom 10 team in D1 basketball. It’s been miserable under Sather. 1 Quote
SiouxBoys Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 Just now, GoodGood said: What has there been to be positive about with UND basketball in the last 3 years? We’re the laughing stock of the Summit League. We’re a bottom 10 team in D1 basketball. It’s been miserable under Sather. There hasn't been much of anything to be positive about. But just because somebody doesn't think the coach is the only person at fault for all of this, doesn't make their opinion irrelevant. Simply pointing out @HoopsFan03 hypocrisy is all. Quote
SiouxBoys Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 Just now, HoopsFan03 said: I have never once said everybody should be negative. I think that coaches should be held accountable. When you aren't doing your job you need to be let go. Hence him doing his job incorrectly more than 70% of the time over 3.5 years means that he needs to be held accountable and let go. I'm not sure how that is negative. It's being real and living in the real world Sure. And you're completely entitled to your opinion. Just like @jdub27 is. See how easy that is? Welcome to a public forum. Quote
SiouxHawkGuy Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 8 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said: What is the "benefit" of keeping Sather? The farther the program sinks into the abyss, the fewer butts will be in the seats of the BESC. And the farther it sinks, the harder it will be to pull out. There is ZERO buzz about MBB at UND right now. ZERO. That doesn't generate revenues. ZERO? Idk there was 1,600 people in the stands to watch a 7-13 team play ORU. Quote
SiouxFan100 Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 Nice that we have fans who care. I care too. A new direction probably is warranted. I just don’t enjoy it. There are families involved - I know I know I know this is reality. Quote
jdub27 Posted January 24, 2023 Posted January 24, 2023 31 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said: Which is something that @jdub27has never understood. He seems to think that everything should be positive on a message board. Well, the world ain't 100% positive, so that kind of Ducky and Bunny thinking simply does not work. If you're going to be constantly negative, then don't be surprised that those people who have/use a different perspective to voice their opinions. I don't think anyone thinks everything is perfect or even close to it. But you do you. Quote
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