2022-23 University of North Dakota Hockey Season

[KCSioux]

Clarkson swept ASU

[TheFlop]

3 hours ago, KCSioux said:

Clarkson swept ASU

Good thing UND doesn't have to play Clarkson this year lol.

[SIOUXELEVENS]

This is one of the worst teams I’ve seen since I started really following this hockey team in the early eighties, this reminds me of a Gino’s last years. This will take years to flip this around. Next year he will have to dip into the portal again because a lot of he recruits aren’t panning out and imho players don’t like his style of play, ND where good offensive players come to get worse. 

[siouxkid12]

On 11/13/2022 at 6:56 PM, MafiaMan said:

So tired of cherry-picking one team and thinking that North Dakota is gonna turn this around come March.  This team has some big-time problems in all facets of the game.  

I said this early in after some non conference losses. This team is god awful right now and those non conference losses will hurt us (not that it matters anymore after losing to Miami). 

Berry gave up on Shaw after 4 years because we weren’t playing right, maybe it’s time to give up on Berry because he isn’t developing players.

[The Sicatoka]

Has the game passed our age 57+ coaches by? (I’m thinking of two sports right now.) 

On NHL Radio yesterday Ken Daneyko said 1/3 of players in his day couldn’t play in the league today and 1/3 of today couldn’t play then. Why? The game is different. It’s gone from a strength and power game to a speed and skill game. 

What era game are we coaching for?

[SIOUXELEVENS]

So we don’t need a team of grindaz?

[jk]

12 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

Has the game passed our age 57+ coaches by? (I’m thinking of two sports right now.) 

On NHL Radio yesterday Ken Daneyko said 1/3 of players in his day couldn’t play in the league today and 1/3 of today couldn’t play then. Why? The game is different. It’s gone from a strength and power game to a speed and skill game. 

What era game are we coaching for?

I'm not sure where to find the information, but I think I've seen that UND is one of the smaller teams in the country now, so it's not that the roster is big and lumbering.  

In the 00s, Hakstol seemingly built teams to win seven-game series, and I have no doubt he would have had a run of titles if the system was built that way.  Instead UND just wore BC out so Michigan State could beat them in the next game. 

But the staff adjusted, especially on the back end, and you just don't see the three Matt's back there anymore.  The only big defenseman on the team is Kleven, and he can skate. 

I would also suggest that Calder was the odd man out last summer because he was the slowest skater up front, to my eyes anyway.  Now the slowest, again, to me, is Kunz, and that's complicated because he was a local phenom.  

To summarize, I don't feel the coaches are stuck in the past.  With perhaps one exception, and that's in their affection for small goalies.  I understand where that comes from, but please give me another Scheel.  They just take up more space. 

 

[SIOUXELEVENS]

23 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

Has the game passed our age 57+ coaches by? (I’m thinking of two sports right now.) 

On NHL Radio yesterday Ken Daneyko said 1/3 of players in his day couldn’t play in the league today and 1/3 of today couldn’t play then. Why? The game is different. It’s gone from a strength and power game to a speed and skill game. 

What era game are we coaching for?

I have said this in the past that Berrys system makes offensive players seem mediocre , maybe we need a younger coach who can bring in a new system. 

[Frozen4sioux]

21 hours ago, siouxkid12 said:

I said this early in after some non conference losses. This team is god awful right now and those non conference losses will hurt us (not that it matters anymore after losing to Miami). 

Berry gave up on Shaw after 4 years because we weren’t playing right, maybe it’s time to give up on Berry because he isn’t developing players.

Shaw was an anchor... and not a good anchor like a symbol of stability... like a dragging everything down with it anchor.

[tnt]

21 hours ago, The Sicatoka said:

Has the game passed our age 57+ coaches by? (I’m thinking of two sports right now.) 

On NHL Radio yesterday Ken Daneyko said 1/3 of players in his day couldn’t play in the league today and 1/3 of today couldn’t play then. Why? The game is different. It’s gone from a strength and power game to a speed and skill game. 

What era game are we coaching for?

So we are saying this less than half way through the year, and after winning the toughest league in college hockey for the last 3 years?   Winning the toughest league means you are winning more games against the toughest competition around.  Let's wait and see how this plays out because frankly we see this same conversation every year, under Hakstol and Berry. 

[siouxkid12]

1 hour ago, Frozen4sioux said:

Shaw was an anchor... and not a good anchor like a symbol of stability... like a dragging everything down with it anchor.

That same case could be made for Berry.

[scpa0305]

On 11/20/2022 at 5:18 AM, SIOUXELEVENS said:

This is one of the worst teams I’ve seen since I started really following this hockey team in the early eighties, this reminds me of a Gino’s last years. This will take years to flip this around. Next year he will have to dip into the portal again because a lot of he recruits aren’t panning out and imho players don’t like his style of play, ND where good offensive players come to get worse. 

I remember Hak having a really iffy team when I was in college. I believe they were like .500. Blais had an iffy team too. 
 

if this is Berry’s iffy team so be it. It’s still November though. As I’ve always said, the only thing that worries me is the recruiting pipeline.

[fightingsioux4life]

6 minutes ago, scpa0305 said:

I remember Hak having a really iffy team when I was in college. I believe they were like .500. Blais had an iffy team too. 
 

if this is Berry’s iffy team so be it. It’s still November though. As I’ve always said, the only thing that worries me is the recruiting pipeline.

The only losing season Blais had was the first season in the new REA (2001-2002).

[scpa0305]

2 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

The only losing season Blais had was the first season in the new REA (2001-2002).

What about Hak…not necessarily a losing season but a bad season?

That Blais season was the year after a natty right?

[siouxforce19]

1 minute ago, scpa0305 said:

What about Hak…not necessarily a losing season but a bad season?

That Blais season was the year after a natty right?

Hak teams never missed the NCAA tournament so how “bad” could one of his teams have been? There were a couple 1st round NCAA exits, but one of those teams won the WCHA tournament and another won the WCHA regular season. 

[fightingsioux4life]

12 minutes ago, scpa0305 said:

What about Hak…not necessarily a losing season but a bad season?

That Blais season was the year after a natty right?

We lost in the 2001 NCAA title game the year before. We won NCAA title #7 the year before that (2000).

[fightingsioux4life]

9 minutes ago, siouxforce19 said:

Hak teams never missed the NCAA tournament so how “bad” could one of his teams have been? There were a couple 1st round NCAA exits, but one of those teams won the WCHA tournament and another won the WCHA regular season. 

Didn't we have one season where we had to have one particular team lose so we could get in? I think it was 2014.

[siouxforce19]

Just now, fightingsioux4life said:

Didn't we have one season where we had to have one particular team lose so we could get in? I think it was 2014.

… yes, but we also finished 2nd in the NCHC that year and went to the Frozen Four. NCHC was mediocre in non-conference play that first year of the league. SCSU and UND were the only at large bids and DU got the auto bid but they weren’t good that year. 

[SIOUXELEVENS]

Ok lots of people are saying the same thing about our D, so why doesn’t Berry change something , line combos , who is coaching the D etc. nope everything is fine no need to panic and change things we still have three teams below us in save %  and we aren’t in last place in the league yet. 

[I Ranger]

11 minutes ago, SIOUXELEVENS said:

Ok lots of people are saying the same thing about our D, so why doesn’t Berry change something , line combos , who is coaching the D etc. nope everything is fine no need to panic and change things we still have three teams below us in save %  and we aren’t in last place in the league yet. 

That's an interesting question because the answer is everyone's next savior for the program Karl. It is quite interesting that the forward combos have been juggled constantly yet our D play has been horrendous and not much change at all there or at least with the top pair. 

[The Sicatoka]

Brad Berry needs to get his house in order. 

[cowboys5xsbs]

When is the last time we weren't ranked.  I genuinely can not remember.  Embarrassing how far we fell. 

[jk]

58 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

Brad Berry needs to get his house in order. 

Anything in particular here?

[Irish]

6 hours ago, tnt said:

So we are saying this less than half way through the year, and after winning the toughest league in college hockey for the last 3 years?   Winning the toughest league means you are winning more games against the toughest competition around.  Let's wait and see how this plays out because frankly we see this same conversation every year, under Hakstol and Berry. 

Conference Championships are nice but not our ultimate goal.  Duluth and Denver have found a way to get it done twice each since we won a Natty.  We on the other hand have won 1 tournament game.  Remember when we used to mock the Gophers for winning the Big 10 and then flaming out in the tournament.  Well, that's us now.  As for this year - wow - to watch a game is to be frustrated.  It's not just the record it's how we are playing.  Can't hold a lead in the third to save our butts.  Add in our recruiting losses and here we are.

[brianvf]

1 hour ago, cowboys5xsbs said:

When is the last time we weren't ranked.  I genuinely can not remember.  Embarrassing how far we fell. 

I was gonna ask the same thing.  I'm sure Schloss will dig into that and let us know.

Hopefully the team is embarrassed about that as well...started the season ranked pretty high and now have fallen out of the rankings entirely.
Time to right the ship.