2020 Dumpster Fire (Enter at your own risk)

[tnt]

55 minutes ago, southpaw said:

!@#$ those people over 44, amirite?

Could ask the same about the people committing suicide and domestic violence that has ramped up because of this?

[UND1983]

Quarantine the most vulnerable.  Period. 

[dynato]

4 minutes ago, Siouxphan27 said:

Not to speak for him, but if I recall Cratter never believed the doomsday death projections.  It's looking like he was correct.  

Not believing/trusting the numbers in this case means having a bias that the physical death count being reported by medical professionals is too high and that the death being experience by COVID should instead be reallocated to different categories as the primary source of death. 

[Oxbow6]

2 minutes ago, tnt said:

Could ask the same about the people committing suicide and domestic violence that has ramped up because of this?

FPD reported a 14% uptick in domestic abuse reports since beginning of March.

[tnt]

Just now, Oxbow6 said:

FPD reported a 14% uptick in domestic abuse reports since beginning of March.

I heard a stat yesterday, that it was 22%, but not sure if that was local, statewide, or national.  

[Oxbow6]

Just now, tnt said:

I heard a stat yesterday, that it was 22%, but not sure if that was local, statewide, or national.  

Could have been........I tend to just make s**t up.

[UNDBIZ]

2 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

FPD reported a 14% uptick in domestic abuse reports since beginning of March.

36% in Paris.  Also, now that these people are stuck with their partner pretty much 24/7, I'd imagine the percentage that actually report domestic violence is even lower than it is under normal conditions.

https://www.euronews.com/2020/03/28/domestic-violence-cases-jump-30-during-lockdown-in-france?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR3tgwBwa0oVE90qny89t2pwqhPp3n4o-r4j9w5z5auE-jx7d8DqCV9Riuo#Echobox=1585376018

[Oxbow6]

Just now, UNDBIZ said:

36% in Paris.  Also, now that these people are stuck with their partner pretty much 24/7, I'd imagine the percentage that actually report domestic violence is even lower than it is under normal conditions.

https://www.euronews.com/2020/03/28/domestic-violence-cases-jump-30-during-lockdown-in-france?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR3tgwBwa0oVE90qny89t2pwqhPp3n4o-r4j9w5z5auE-jx7d8DqCV9Riuo#Echobox=1585376018

Yikes.....but France isn't Germany or Italy. Please stay on point if you would.

[yzerman19]

How about this novel (pun intended) concept in a supposedly free country:

Here are the facts, we suggest that you self quarantine if you are an at-risk group, and we suggest limiting your social engagements and possible exposure.  Now go make your choices and live or die by them.  

[Siouxphan27]

11 minutes ago, dynato said:

Not believing/trusting the numbers in this case means having a bias that the physical death count being reported by medical professionals is too high and that the death being experience by COVID should instead be reallocated to different categories as the primary source of death. 

Even after new York decided to lump all unattended deaths into the covid category, the total deaths are still trending well below the early doomsday estimates.  

[Walsh Hall]

So, the point of social distancing is to "flatten the curve", correct? The whole point of "flattening the curve" is to prevent overwhelming the healthcare system, correct? But I am hearing stories that in most places, and certainly in ND, the healthcare system is by no means overwhelmed. In other words, people are not being hospitalized in the vast numbers predicted. So why flatten the curve if it is just prolonging the pain, so to say? Why not ease the restrictions a bit?

I have always understood a certain  (debatable) percentage of the people WILL contract Covid-19. Why prolong the pain if the healthcare system is capable of treating more cases than are being presented? Open up the economy for those  whose risk factor is pretty low and get on with it. Our economy cannot tolerate too much more of this before we have a total collapse. That is not beneficial to anybody. 

[rochsioux]

11 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

Could have been........I tend to just make s**t up.

Oxbow6 = Don Adam  ??

[LH Golfer]

https://nypost.com/2020/04/15/mit-study-subways-a-major-disseminator-of-coronavirus-in-nyc/

 

DUH!

[Oxbow6]

3 minutes ago, rochsioux said:

Oxbow6 = Don Adam  ??

[UNDBIZ]

2 minutes ago, LH Golfer said:

https://nypost.com/2020/04/15/mit-study-subways-a-major-disseminator-of-coronavirus-in-nyc/

DUH!

[rochsioux]

Some auto insurance companies are refunding some money to customers due to less driving going on during this shutdown. 

It appears that many/most hospitals are losing large sums of money due to the loss of non COVID19 patients.  Should we expect medical insurance companies to refund some of the premiums being paid ?   About the same likelihood of the Sioux name coming back. 

[LH Golfer]

https://www.chicagobusiness.com/greg-hinz-politics/midwest-governors-form-covid-coalition

So would ND, SD, WY, MT and NE form a Big Sky/Missouri Valley coalition? 

[Oxbow6]

The Theodore Roosevelt National Park in western ND just closed immediately due to COVID. Will reopen May 9.

#savelives

#factsnotfear

[yzerman19]

22 minutes ago, rochsioux said:

Some auto insurance companies are refunding some money to customers due to less driving going on during this shutdown. 

It appears that many/most hospitals are losing large sums of money due to the loss of non COVID19 patients.  Should we expect medical insurance companies to refund some of the premiums being paid ?   About the same likelihood of the Sioux name coming back. 

1.  The demand for non-covid cases will be pent up.  Expect a near capacity surge after the crisis lifts.

2.  Much of “insured” are actually self-funded, so the insurance company isn’t risk-bearing, the employer is.

3.  If at the end of the year on the fully-insured land at a loss ratio less than 85, the insurers will need to true that up per the ACA.

end of the day, you won’t see a check, but you might see some premium relief next year.

[geaux_sioux]

11 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

The Theodore Roosevelt National Park in western ND just closed immediately due to COVID. Will reopen May 9.

#savelives

#factsnotfear

Took a lot of balls to make that call. “Look, we did something proactive.”

[MafiaMan]

34 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

The Theodore Roosevelt National Park in western ND just closed immediately due to COVID. Will reopen May 9.

#savelives

#factsnotfear

 

22 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

Took a lot of balls to make that call. “Look, we did something proactive.”

Yea, because the risk of catching coronavirus while...[checks notes]...driving a 30+ mile loop in the badlands in your car or truck is so great.  

You run a bigger risk of having your vehicle dented by an angry buffalo!

[Oxbow6]

2 minutes ago, MafiaMan said:

 

Yea, because the risk of catching coronavirus while...[checks notes]...driving a 30+ mile loop in the badlands in your car or truck is so great.  

You run a bigger risk of having your vehicle dented by an angry buffalo!

.....and let's not forget the number of elk tags issued  in ND per year is 3x the population of Medora.

[Old Fella]

28 new cases in ND yesterday.

1 age 60 and over'

27 under age 60.

[Cratter]

The highest death daily totals were about 2k.

Then a sudden one day spike of 6k.

Without consistency in the reporting it's hard to tell which way it's really trending.

[UND1983]

4 minutes ago, Old Fella said:

28 new cases in ND yesterday.

1 age 60 and over'

27 under age 60.

The odds are really good that 27 will recover.