Longtime fan Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 54 minutes ago, Irish said: The story of the Bubba era - Enough talent each year to be hopeful and take care of most of the cupcakes, but usually with a serious weakness that costs us against good teams. It's almost always the QB and now the undersized lines, but for a while it was the DBs - especially the corners. Special teams are always crappy. I think recruiting is a bigger problem than we realize. Add in some head-scratching coaching decisions - game decisions, schemes, and personnel and you have a thoroughly mediocre program. In spite of this there are many crucial games that we could have won had we made key plays, made adjustments, called a better offensive game, not gotten a punt blocked or turned the ball over. The fact that this happens so often is alarming. It is definitely the story of the bubba era. There have been numerous could’ve, would’ve should’ve s year after year after year after year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJS Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 hour ago, UND1983 said: It was a 28-20 game and UND had the ball in EWU territory. six turnovers, missed xp and no run defense for 30 minutes.....all of that and they were down 8 in the 4th quarter. sucks how bad they screw up momentum every year. It's almost an art how Bubba and company kill momentum. It's borderline laughable now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 For anyone that actually watched the game please tell at what point during the game did you think UND was the better team? Just curious. It's like some UND fans saying UND hung with NDSU for a half. At some point you are what you are based on how you perform. If I'm way off on this some one please pass me a glass of Kool-Aid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJS Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 13 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: For anyone that actually watched the game please tell at what point during the game did you think UND was the better team? Just curious. It's like some UND fans saying UND hung with NDSU for a half. At some point you are what you are based on how you perform. If I'm way off on this some one please pass me a glass of Kool-Aid. On Saturday there was no point when I thought UND was the better team. I can see how people (me included) think it was a game they could have and probably should won. I don't think those things have to be mutually exclusive. If you play that game 100 times, I'm not sure offensively they possibly could have turned over the ball more than they did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 30 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: For anyone that actually watched the game please tell at what point during the game did you think UND was the better team? Just curious. It's like some UND fans saying UND hung with NDSU for a half. At some point you are what you are based on how you perform. If I'm way off on this some one please pass me a glass of Kool-Aid. Does the better team always win? I saw a game that UND actually had a minor chance to win if Ketteringham doesn't throw yet another interception. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 bb starts the ewu game....we win that game going away. one guy had 6 turnovers and we lost by two scores....imagine how much better our d could be if they had any faith in the o side the ball....3 and outs suck for morale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 3 hours ago, Oxbow6 said: That false narrative doesn't help 6 turnovers to EWU on the road. Most years they’d hang 70 on us with that stat. They aren’t good this year. It’s a game we should win but didn’t and that’s on the coaches. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Oxbow6 said: For anyone that actually watched the game please tell at what point during the game did you think UND was the better team? Just curious. It's like some UND fans saying UND hung with NDSU for a half. At some point you are what you are based on how you perform. If I'm way off on this some one please pass me a glass of Kool-Aid. The entire second half, even with numbnuts at qb. We’re still short on athletes and dudes and athletic dudes though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-FB-FAN Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 You don’t win when you have 6 turnovers. UND’s offense, specifically the QB position, failed UND on Saturday. Need to protect the ball way better. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperman8 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 5 hours ago, gundy1124 said: The 3-4 works with a few 300+ lbers in the middle and Dudes at both D ends. Also, we used to have size at outside backer. Currently, we have a small nose guard and the backup is even smaller, a 220 D End and Bennett with a few backups around 240 lbs. On top of that, 2 small outside backers. I don't see how we let things get to this........ Roster Management........needs work. I know a guy who coaching at the college level and he stopped at the ND and SD schools this fall so they could put a face with his name for future opportunities. He wondered why the UND d-line coach was working with the linebackers but then realized they were our d-lineman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxHawkGuy Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Ketteringham starting against UC Davis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post siouxfan512 Posted September 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, SiouxHawkGuy said: Ketteringham starting against UC Davis Just saw that. I don't really care, so long as Bubba is finally held accountable when the season is over. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 7 minutes ago, SiouxHawkGuy said: Ketteringham starting against UC Davis Bubba being Bubba - He will never change. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 whats sad is that he had to announce who the starter will be - meaning there is an issue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 36 minutes ago, siouxfan512 said: Just saw that. I don't really care, so long as Bubba is finally held accountable when the season is over. Apathy will be king before this season ends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Sue Posted September 30, 2019 Author Share Posted September 30, 2019 Wow...is that a misprint? i don’t get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Mama Sue.....based on what I've read recently in this thread if Kett only turns it over 3 times playing in perfect conditions at home UND should be golden on Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 hopefully kelly howe calls out bubba on this crap....6 to's!!!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 49 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: Mama Sue.....based on what I've read recently in this thread if Kett only turns it over 3 times playing in perfect conditions at home UND should be golden on Saturday. Against a bad team maybe. I don’t think Davis is a bad team. They’ve proven otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBR Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Last Saturday you could tell who the better team was. It was the team that had scored the most points when the game was over. You could also tell who wanted to play winning football looking at body language. The guys in white sauntered up to the line of scrimmage like they weren't so sure about things, especially in the first half. The players in red broke from their offensive hurdles and moved up to the line of scrimmage enthusiastically. Had the body language been the reverse , the guys in white may have been the better team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Sue Posted October 1, 2019 Author Share Posted October 1, 2019 Well I don’t get it.....use the best you have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 hour ago, TBR said: Last Saturday you could tell who the better team was. It was the team that had scored the most points when the game was over. You could also tell who wanted to play winning football looking at body language. The guys in white sauntered up to the line of scrimmage like they weren't so sure about things, especially in the first half. The players in red broke from their offensive hurdles and moved up to the line of scrimmage enthusiastically. Had the body language been the reverse , the guys in white may have been the better team. The intensity we played with in the first half looked like the 2013 Mussman team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxfan512 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 5 hours ago, Oxbow6 said: Apathy will be king before this season ends. sad, but true. I'll still watch, and I'll still cheer, but it is tough to have high hopes when the program lacks proper leadership. I actually though Bubba should have been gone before this year. He could have fired Rudy a year earlier, but chose to hold on to a guy that couldn't do the job. At that point he was just as much at fault as Rudy was. Getting rid of Rudy when he did was a year too late as far as I am concerned. Now Chaves will be in a similar position. Is he willing to make a change, or let the coaching issue linger longer than it needs to. If you can get the right coach, you can change a program fairly quickly. UND has just had an issue with finding that right coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkster Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 7 minutes ago, siouxfan512 said: sad, but true. I'll still watch, and I'll still cheer, but it is tough to have high hopes when the program lacks proper leadership. I actually though Bubba should have been gone before this year. He could have fired Rudy a year earlier, but chose to hold on to a guy that couldn't do the job. At that point he was just as much at fault as Rudy was. Getting rid of Rudy when he did was a year too late as far as I am concerned. Now Chaves will be in a similar position. Is he willing to make a change, or let the coaching issue linger longer than it needs to. If you can get the right coach, you can change a program fairly quickly. UND has just had an issue with finding that right coach. Rudy is gone and we still have the same issues. It makes me think the problems run higher and deeper than just Rudy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxfan512 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Hawkster said: Rudy is gone and we still have the same issues. It makes me think the problems run higher and deeper than just Rudy. Well maybe, but I'm not ready to put offensive woes on Freund at this point either. To your point, it goes higher, and I think a lot of that is Bubba and recruiting. O line is still a problem, D line is way to small. QB has never been emphasized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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