Enrollment

[The Sicatoka]

18 hours ago, BigGreyAnt41 said:

What blows my mind is how other schools are going in the opposite direction.

St. Cloud State was over 18,000 back in 2010.  Last year they were at 10,093.  Will they even be over 10,000 this year?

Based on the link they do a "30th Day" enrollment which works out to very early October for them.
https://www.stcloudstate.edu/air/_files/documents/reports/enrollment/total-enrollment/fall-2022-total-enrollment.pdf 

[gfhockey]

Still nothing out of the Fargo herald

 

think it would be newsworthy we are bucking the trend

[The Sicatoka]

2 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

Still nothing out of the Fargo herald

think it would be newsworthy we are bucking the trend

Answer key: https://forum.siouxsports.com/topic/27872-enrollment/page/10/#comment-1320839 

 

[The Sicatoka]

As both a congratulation and a stark warning:  

HS graduating classes are shrinking (it's 18 years after the 2008 recession and birth rates fell drastically in 2008). UND recruiting has done an awesome job but it can't let up as it only gets tougher from here. 

[Teeder11]

UPDATE: Herald is working on a story.

[AJS]

For UND / NDSU, State funding really is the life blood of the University. It would make sense to me that things could snowball (harder to increase enrollment with less funding and vise versa). It really is high stakes every year, you just cannot start a downward spiral. Who knows, but I would almost prefer the Forum not to cover. For the simple reason is out of sight out of mind for alumns that might start putting pressure on the administration of NDSU. 

[gfhockey]

Kennedy did do good work and was the scape goat

[The Sicatoka]

I chat with some NDSU folks and the ones who are on their campus every day have told me NDSU needed (and still needs) a "Schafer and Kennedy."

Those two came in to UND as business minds (owner or CFO) and cut the budget where it needed no matter whose sacred cow got gored.

They took about $500,000,000.00 of deferred maintenance off the budget books and in the process cleaned up the look of campus and freed up money for new and better projects. 

We're starting to see the dividends. 

[The Sicatoka]

18 minutes ago, AJS said:

... you just cannot start a downward spiral. 

See: St. Cloud State (down about 8000 in a decade). 

[Kab]

Bismarck state had more freshman this year than any school 

[nodakvindy]

On 9/20/2023 at 9:04 AM, The Sicatoka said:

Fall 2022 (NDSU): 12,242. Fall 2023: 11,952. Down 290. Yikes. And under 12k. 

This puts them back to 2003-ish numbers, ... two lost decades.
https://www.ndsu.edu/data/enrollment/annual/ 

The nasty in there is freshmen down 11.9%.

Makes one wonder if UND's approach (Nistler, Education, Union, new housing, then athletic facilities, call it "student body first") was better than shooting $50M at an NDSU FB facility and still not having raised the $25M to get $75M from the State to replace the NDSU Eng'g building. 

A school putting academics first, what a concept.

[Blackheart]

1 hour ago, Teeder11 said:

UPDATE: Herald is working on a story.

Here's a preview...

 

[forksandspoons]

1 hour ago, AJS said:

For UND / NDSU, State funding really is the life blood of the University. It would make sense to me that things could snowball (harder to increase enrollment with less funding and vise versa). It really is high stakes every year, you just cannot start a downward spiral. Who knows, but I would almost prefer the Forum not to cover. For the simple reason is out of sight out of mind for alumns that might start putting pressure on the administration of NDSU. 

On the flip side, if I was considering NDSU (would never happen) for myself or my kid, and read that the enrollment is spiraling downhill, I would not have faith in their leadership and not go there.

[farce poobah]

2 hours ago, Blackheart said:

Here's a preview...

 

Oh! So it will be a short story.  

[nodak651]

44 minutes ago, Kab said:

Bismarck state had more freshman this year than any school 

Does that include high schools taking college courses?

[AJS]

15 minutes ago, forksandspoons said:

On the flip side, if I was considering NDSU (would never happen) for myself or my kid, and read that the enrollment is spiraling downhill, I would not have faith in their leadership and not go there.

Thinking logically, if we do not see a story in the Forum on enrollment numbers, it's because NDSU does not want the article written. You're probably right on your line of thinking. 

[UND1983]

2 hours ago, gfhockey said:

Kennedy did do good work and was the scape goat

Agreed.  Kind of a different cat to talk to at times but he had a vision and implemented it well.

[Kab]

1 hour ago, nodak651 said:

Does that include high schools taking college courses?

Doesn’t say, you can check out at Bismarck state college 

[AJS]

Enrollment at UND rises again; systemwide enrollment is up, too - Grand Forks Herald | Grand Forks, East Grand Forks news, weather & sports (inforum.com)

 

 

 

[The Sicatoka]

1 minute ago, AJS said:

Enrollment at UND rises again; systemwide enrollment is up, too - Grand Forks Herald | Grand Forks, East Grand Forks news, weather & sports (inforum.com)

NDSU's decrease is buried 2/3 of the way through the article. 

Forum gonna Forum. 

[farce poobah]

On 9/20/2023 at 4:32 PM, nodak651 said:

NDSU 2023 Fall Summary https://www.ndsu.edu/data/enrollment/summaries/

I recall a time where "women were scarce...." at NDSU.   Now 51% F.   

[The Sicatoka]

15 minutes ago, farce poobah said:

I recall a time where "women were scarce...." at NDSU.   Now 51% F.   

Would now be a good time to remind everyone that 60% of NDSU athletic grants go to men? 

[jdub27]

31 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

Would now be a good time to remind everyone that 60% of NDSU athletic grants go to men? 

61.5%
And 63.3% of student-athletes opportunities (unduplicated)

[farce poobah]

35 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

Would now be a good time to remind everyone that 60% of NDSU athletic grants go to men? 

 

2 minutes ago, jdub27 said:

61.5%
And 63.3% of student-athletes opportunities (unduplicated)

NDSU should start a D-1 women's ice hockey team.  

[FSSD]

Really need to start women's hockey!