UNDBIZ Posted September 20, 2023 Posted September 20, 2023 On 9/19/2023 at 10:01 PM, Teeder11 said: Sorry all! Been out of the loop for a few days. UND's Census Day enrollment came in at 14,172 -- 296 students more than Census Day 2022, about 2.13 percent higher. Inside the numbers, UND also saw increases in new freshman, new transfers, new grad students, as well as total undergrad and total grad. Expand Headcount is up. How's FTE? Quote
Rick Posted September 20, 2023 Posted September 20, 2023 On 9/20/2023 at 1:04 PM, The Sicatoka said: Cook (current NDSU) has some significant issues to take on, foremost being budget shortfalls and declining enrollment. Additionally his predecessor (Bresciani) was against on-line classes so that area is presently a weakness also. Expand I was thinking that Bresciani was still there. How long has Cook been there? Is he more likable than his predecessor or the Snake oil salesman? Quote
UNDBIZ Posted September 20, 2023 Posted September 20, 2023 On 9/20/2023 at 2:43 PM, Rick said: I was thinking that Bresciani was still there. How long has Cook been there? Is he more likable than his predecessor or the Snake oil salesman? Expand I think he started summer 2022. He's much better so far. Quote
gfhockey Posted September 20, 2023 Posted September 20, 2023 What counts for state $$$? Is it fte or just total enrollment Quote
The Sicatoka Posted September 20, 2023 Posted September 20, 2023 On 9/20/2023 at 2:52 PM, gfhockey said: What counts for state $$$? Is it fte or just total enrollment Expand Credit hours enrolled. But you need students to take the credit hours so it aligns fairly closely. Quote
Popular Post The Sicatoka Posted September 20, 2023 Popular Post Posted September 20, 2023 On 9/20/2023 at 2:35 PM, Teeder11 said: I haven't verified it yet. But hearing that NDAC fall 2023 enrollment is down overall by 2.4% to 11,952....with new freshman down 11.9% from last year. Expand Fall 2022 (NDSU): 12,242. Fall 2023: 11,952. Down 290. Yikes. And under 12k. This puts them back to 2003-ish numbers, ... two lost decades. https://www.ndsu.edu/data/enrollment/annual/ The nasty in there is freshmen down 11.9%. Makes one wonder if UND's approach (Nistler, Education, Union, new housing, then athletic facilities, call it "student body first") was better than shooting $50M at an NDSU FB facility and still not having raised the $25M to get $75M from the State to replace the NDSU Eng'g building. 7 Quote
Popular Post forksandspoons Posted September 20, 2023 Popular Post Posted September 20, 2023 UND over 14k and NDSU under 12k. UND looking great right about now with all of the new campus buildings! 11 Quote
Rick Posted September 20, 2023 Posted September 20, 2023 On 9/20/2023 at 3:04 PM, The Sicatoka said: Fall 2022 (NDSU): 12,242. Fall 2023: 11,952. Down 290. Yikes. And under 12k. This puts them back to 2003-ish numbers, ... two lost decades. https://www.ndsu.edu/data/enrollment/annual/ Expand Is there a similar chart for UND? It would be interesting to compare the numbers from about 2010 to 2023. Quote
andtheHomeoftheSIOUX!! Posted September 20, 2023 Author Posted September 20, 2023 https://ndus.edu/contact-us/institutional-research/reporting/ All the numbers are here but it takes some time to sort through them. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted September 20, 2023 Posted September 20, 2023 UND Census Day 2023: 14,172 (+296); up about 2.13%. Increases in new freshman, new transfers, new grad students, total undergrad, and total grad. NDSU Census Day 2023: 11,952 (-290); down about 2.4%. New freshman down 11.9% from last year. Congrats UND. You got after it; now keep after it. Disclaimer: Thanks to @Teeder11 for the raw data. I just compiled it into one post. 3 Quote
FSSD Posted September 20, 2023 Posted September 20, 2023 I wonder if NDSU was more susceptible to the new Minnesota higher ed programs like North Star program. Quote
andtheHomeoftheSIOUX!! Posted September 20, 2023 Author Posted September 20, 2023 NDSU MN undergrads/grad students: 5,018/444 Total=5,462 UND MN undergrads/grad students: 2,965/840 Total=3,805 This is for fall of 2022. https://ndus.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2022/10/2022-Fall-Enrollment.pdf Quote
nodak651 Posted September 20, 2023 Posted September 20, 2023 NDSU 2023 Fall Summary https://www.ndsu.edu/data/enrollment/summaries/ Quote
The Sicatoka Posted September 20, 2023 Posted September 20, 2023 Looks like @nodak651 just validated @Teeder11 main numbers (11,952 and -2.4%). From the link, NDSU: Freshmen 2022: 2592 Freshmen 2023: 2260 (I get -12.8%) Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted September 20, 2023 Posted September 20, 2023 On 9/20/2023 at 9:35 PM, The Sicatoka said: Looks like @nodak651 just validated @Teeder11 main numbers (11,952 and -2.4%). From the link, NDSU: Freshmen 2022: 2592 Freshmen 2023: 2260 (I get -12.8%) Expand I bet that NDSU shill Jerome Hadlewick is scrambling to come up with reasons why "it doesn't matter". Quote
The Sicatoka Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 On 9/20/2023 at 10:31 PM, fightingsioux4life said: I bet that NDSU shill Jerome Hadlewick is scrambling to come up with reasons why "it doesn't matter". Expand Who is this and why do we care? More specifically: If this is a private person I'm not comfortable pointing at them; if this is an NDSU employee or media member "doing their job" that's slightly different but still if the name isn't readily recognizable* as a public figure I'm concerned. *e.g. Port, McFeely, Kolpack, Dr. Cook, Dr. Armacost, use their names all day Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 On 9/21/2023 at 1:16 PM, The Sicatoka said: Who is this and why do we care? More specifically: If this is a private person I'm not comfortable pointing at them; if this is an NDSU employee or media member "doing their job" that's slightly different but still if the name isn't readily recognizable* as a public figure I'm concerned. *e.g. Port, McFeely, Kolpack, Dr. Cook, Dr. Armacost, use their names all day Expand That guy has written letters to the Heraldo in the past talking about how NDSU is the greatest thing since sliced bread and how UND is slowly dying alongside Grand Forks. Just rubbed me the wrong way. Once you write letters to the editor making controversial comments, you are open to criticism. 1 Quote
The Sicatoka Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 On 9/21/2023 at 1:51 PM, fightingsioux4life said: Once you write letters to the editor making controversial comments, you are open to criticism. Expand Indeed. Thanks for the clarification. Quote
forksandspoons Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 McFeely continues to push FBS while ignoring the fact that NDSU's enrollment is rapidly declining.. I am shocked! Quote
Kab Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 On 9/21/2023 at 4:05 PM, forksandspoons said: McFeely continues to push FBS while ignoring the fact that NDSU's enrollment is rapidly declining.. I am shocked! Expand That’s the way he can mooch off of the forum and travel on their dime he is a few fries short of a kiddy meal Quote
tnt Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 On 9/21/2023 at 4:05 PM, forksandspoons said: McFeely continues to push FBS while ignoring the fact that NDSU's enrollment is rapidly declining.. I am shocked! Expand But he is in the "If you build it, they will come" mode! Quote
Teeder11 Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 UND Press release: https://blogs.und.edu/press-releases/2023/09/und-sees-strongest-enrollment-growth-in-more-than-10-years/ 1 Quote
Kab Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 On 9/21/2023 at 6:40 PM, Teeder11 said: UND Press release: https://blogs.und.edu/press-releases/2023/09/und-sees-strongest-enrollment-growth-in-more-than-10-years/ Expand Need to be proud of those numbers and spread the word 1 Quote
BigGreyAnt41 Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 What blows my mind is how other schools are going in the opposite direction. St. Cloud State was over 18,000 back in 2010. Last year they were at 10,093. Will they even be over 10,000 this year? Quote
The Sicatoka Posted September 22, 2023 Posted September 22, 2023 "The local" picked up on the UND press release: https://knoxradio.com/2023/09/21/und-sees-best-fall-enrollment-in-6-years-2/ Quote
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