iramurphy Posted January 24, 2020 Posted January 24, 2020 9 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: And yet the banners show hockey football and basketball players because sports are one of the main marketing arms of many universities. And if you really wanna talk kumquats, an athlete could generate dollars for the university with their sporting exploits and then turn around and also do this research you speak of at the same time because, after all, they are student-athletes. Yes they could. Quote
geaux_sioux Posted January 24, 2020 Posted January 24, 2020 38 minutes ago, iramurphy said: Yes they could. Haven’t had a good kumquat in years. Need to go back to California. 1 Quote
MIBT Posted January 24, 2020 Posted January 24, 2020 On 1/23/2020 at 10:02 AM, bang said: Maybe I got some bunk info, but what I’ve read was that Emmert made 4 mil in 2018 and 11 executives made in the upper 6 to low 7 figures. What I was referring to was membership fees. Again, I know I shouldn’t believe everything I read on the internet but read an article a while back about some ridiculous fee hikes. You sound like you might have better info than what I’ve read. He may receive that kind of compensation but the CEO/ED of a similar sized organization is likely making a lot more. Same for other executives who are in the 6/7 figure roles likely would make more money in similar executive leadership roles in the private sector. I've looked into working there a few times and based on conversations I had with people I would have to take a pay cut to do something similar to what I was doing (IT Management). I did find this article from over a year ago and at that time it was $2.4m. Still a large number, but he's leading an organization that is handling $1b. The article also states there are 11 total people making over $450k so that number is accurate. If these 11 people average $1m, that's $11m or only 1% of their revenue. https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/2018/06/21/ncaa-mark-emmert-got-nearly-500-000-raise-2-4-million/722482002/ Quote
Siouxphan27 Posted January 24, 2020 Posted January 24, 2020 16 hours ago, zonadub said: The last 2 jobs I have held, both healthcare related, have paid by the hour and have paid for me to go on business trips (including meeting time, travel time, airfare, hotel, meals, etc). Just sayin’ If you were paid hourly to sleep, then kudos to you. The original point (which has been lost thanks to resident bison troll slowhand picking out one sentence of mine and throwing this conversation off the rails), I was trying to making was I don't think it's fair to include every hour of the day spent on a road game trip when computing what a scholarship athlete's per hour "pay" amounts to. Here's the quote from bison73 I was originally responding to: On 1/20 at 10:37pm bison73 wrote "away games you're on the clock 24/7." Quote
The Sicatoka Posted January 24, 2020 Posted January 24, 2020 Apparently I'm the unlucky < bleep > here who is salaried exempt and doesn't get paid to travel on Sunday to end up still working a 50+ hour week. 2 Quote
Mama Sue Posted January 25, 2020 Posted January 25, 2020 Well in MN, St. Thomas got voted out of the MN Intercollegiate Athletic Conference. They are requesting going from D3 right to D1... NCAA rules say you have to be D2 for 5 years. So, the NCAA Vision and Planning Committee ( doesn’t everyone have a committee like that?) was positive. The change must be approved by the Division I Council which meets in April. Seems some rules can change.... Quote
Siouxphan27 Posted January 25, 2020 Posted January 25, 2020 12 hours ago, SlowHand said: I am a consultant that is a employee of a large healthcare group. Contractors can be 1099 or w2. Same situation when I worked for the DOD. I was considered a federal contract employee. I had no idea scholarship athletes were considered consultants. Thanks for clearing that up. Quote
3Putt Posted January 25, 2020 Posted January 25, 2020 20 hours ago, The Sicatoka said: Apparently I'm the unlucky < bleep > here who is salaried exempt and doesn't get paid to travel on Sunday to end up still working a 50+ hour week. But being exempt allows you to be on this forum just about any time you want... Quote
Siouxphan27 Posted January 25, 2020 Posted January 25, 2020 21 minutes ago, SlowHand said: You keep moving the goal posts trying to make your ridiculous statements work. They dont. The discussion was about scholarship athletes, and making the comparison of the total value of their scholarships broken down into $/hr. I questioned bison73's assertion that a student athlete is "on the clock 24/7" on road trips. He later clarified his point. When he was comparing student athletes pay to less than minimum wage, I made the statement about hourly employees not going on business trips. I did not realize I needed to repeat the comparison everyone here knew we were referring to about minimum wage, no experience type employees in my statement. I wrongly assumed most people here would be able to comprehend the conversation we were having. Apparently one slow person could not. No one was talking about consultants (because it makes no sense; student athletes are not free agents playing for different universities from week to week) until you got involved without regard to the subject matter being discussed. By not following along with the actual conversation being had, you were basically making the assertion consultancy is similar to a student athlete signing and committing to a university. To me, it's absurd. But if you would like to explain how professional consultancy is similar to 18 year olds signing on to play sports at universities in exchange for scholarships, I'll listen and keep an open mind. 1 Quote
surewhynot Posted January 26, 2020 Posted January 26, 2020 On 1/21/2020 at 12:15 PM, Siouxperman8 said: I was an athlete at UND back in the DII days and there wasn't as much oversight or control from the NCAA. I figured back then that I put in 40 hours/week during the season and 25-30 hours/week average during the rest of the school year. I included all of these things for calculation during the season: practice weight training film study as a team 2 evenings per week Sunday film review of Saturday game plus some light running and stretching 2 lunch meetings/week to review game plan for next game game day - breakfast meeting, pregame and the game itself Travel time when we played an away game And you didn't pay a dime for college. So....think you made out ok Quote
UND1983 Posted January 26, 2020 Posted January 26, 2020 42 minutes ago, surewhynot said: And you didn't pay a dime for college. So....think you made out ok There were only 36 schollies back then, though. 45 before that depending when he went to school. Not many on full rides. 1 Quote
bison73 Posted January 26, 2020 Posted January 26, 2020 3 hours ago, surewhynot said: And you didn't pay a dime for college. So....think you made out ok All depends on if you are full ride or not. Plus back when I played BOOKS werent provided by scholarship. NCC rule I think. Sunday meals werent provided either. Quote
Siouxperman8 Posted January 26, 2020 Posted January 26, 2020 4 hours ago, surewhynot said: And you didn't pay a dime for college. So....think you made out ok And you know this how? I did make out OK because of my degree - not because of a fb scholarship. I was a walk on who got a partial my last 2 years. I was a local kid and in school to get my degree. The coaches knew I wasn't going anywhere so they gave the $$ to the guys competing with my at my position. I'm not sure how many scholarships were available back then - it didn't really apply to me. 3 Quote
SiouxVolley Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 Bo Pelini resigned at YSU to take DC at LSU. http://www.fcs.football/cfb/story.asp?i=20200127152643807061604&ref=hea&tm=&src=FCS Quote
stonebreaker Posted February 5, 2020 Posted February 5, 2020 Tressel has pretty nice list of candidates for HC at Youngstown, JMU offensive coordinator and some P5 assistants in the running. https://footballscoop.com/news/update-at-youngstown-state/ Quote
Hammersmith Posted February 6, 2020 Posted February 6, 2020 On 2/5/2020 at 9:54 AM, stonebreaker said: Tressel has pretty nice list of candidates for HC at Youngstown, JMU offensive coordinator and some P5 assistants in the running. https://footballscoop.com/news/update-at-youngstown-state/ Word is they're going with the high school coach. Quote
Hammersmith Posted February 7, 2020 Posted February 7, 2020 5 hours ago, Hammersmith said: Word is they're going with the high school coach. Spoke too soon. Now leaking that they're going with Doug Phillips. Who knows if true, but some insiders saying the HS coach wanted more money for assistants, so they went with the other guy. Phillips's resume: COACHING CAREER YEAR: SCHOOL - POSITION 1991-92: Youngstown State - Graduate Assistant 1997-2000: Springfield Local HS - Head Coach 2001-05: Salem HS - Head Coach 2006: Ohio State - Quality Control (Defense) 2007-08: Bowling Green - DE/Recruiting Coord. 2016: Iowa State - Director of Player Personnel 2017: Cincinnati - Special Teams Coordinator/Tight Ends 2018-: Cincinnati - Running Backs Quote
UND1983 Posted February 7, 2020 Posted February 7, 2020 9 hours ago, Hammersmith said: Spoke too soon. Now leaking that they're going with Doug Phillips. Who knows if true, but some insiders saying the HS coach wanted more money for assistants, so they went with the other guy. Phillips's resume: COACHING CAREER YEAR: SCHOOL - POSITION 1991-92: Youngstown State - Graduate Assistant 1997-2000: Springfield Local HS - Head Coach 2001-05: Salem HS - Head Coach 2006: Ohio State - Quality Control (Defense) 2007-08: Bowling Green - DE/Recruiting Coord. 2016: Iowa State - Director of Player Personnel 2017: Cincinnati - Special Teams Coordinator/Tight Ends 2018-: Cincinnati - Running Backs That is a fairly weak resume. Quote
UNDBIZ Posted February 7, 2020 Posted February 7, 2020 11 hours ago, Hammersmith said: Spoke too soon. Now leaking that they're going with Doug Phillips. Who knows if true, but some insiders saying the HS coach wanted more money for assistants, so they went with the other guy. Phillips's resume: COACHING CAREER YEAR: SCHOOL - POSITION 1991-92: Youngstown State - Graduate Assistant 1997-2000: Springfield Local HS - Head Coach 2001-05: Salem HS - Head Coach 2006: Ohio State - Quality Control (Defense) 2007-08: Bowling Green - DE/Recruiting Coord. 2016: Iowa State - Director of Player Personnel 2017: Cincinnati - Special Teams Coordinator/Tight Ends 2018-: Cincinnati - Running Backs Was he out of the game 2009-2015? Quote
Hammersmith Posted February 7, 2020 Posted February 7, 2020 5 hours ago, UNDBIZ said: Was he out of the game 2009-2015? Yes(mostly). HS principal and district superintendent during that time at three different schools. Quote
Nodak78 Posted March 2, 2020 Posted March 2, 2020 NDSU Cox has entered the transfer portal. http://www.fcs.football/cfb/story.asp?i=20200302140603254631604&ref=rec&tm=&src=FCS Quote
Tangolou Posted March 2, 2020 Posted March 2, 2020 4 hours ago, Nodak78 said: NDSU Cox has entered the transfer portal. http://www.fcs.football/cfb/story.asp?i=20200302140603254631604&ref=rec&tm=&src=FCS I thought playing for the Bison was the top of the football mountain?? Huh, who knew?? #BISONPRIDEUNTILIFINDSOMETHINGBETTER 1 Quote
Nodak78 Posted March 3, 2020 Posted March 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Tangolou said: I thought playing for the Bison was the top of the football mountain?? Huh, who knew?? #BISONPRIDEUNTILIFINDSOMETHINGBETTER I would bet he ends up in Kansas State or Wyoming. Maybe UND will be playing against him at the KSU game. Bison must be scratching their head. Lol Quote
SiouxFan100 Posted March 3, 2020 Posted March 3, 2020 5 hours ago, Nodak78 said: NDSU Cox has entered the transfer portal. http://www.fcs.football/cfb/story.asp?i=20200302140603254631604&ref=rec&tm=&src=FCS I wouldn’t be surprised if he stayed or left. No trolling yet Till he actually leaves. If he leaves Quote
bison73 Posted March 3, 2020 Posted March 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Nodak78 said: I would bet he ends up in Kansas State or Wyoming. Maybe UND will be playing against him at the KSU game. Bison must be scratching their head. Lol Nope. I understand it. My only surprise was making the announcement this late. There is also no guarantee he will transfer. The situation has to right so he can elevate his draft stock. Quote
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