Siouxphan27 Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 8 minutes ago, bison73 said: The whole supplement industry isnt regulated or FDA approved. That means all of the detox your body crap to stuff for a healthy prostate etc etc etc has no govt over site. Its a multi Billion dollar industry. But people get upset when it has to do with athletics? So what is your stance exactly? Do you want ndsu to be allowed to break the rules without punishment and without others getting upset? Or do you want full on roids for all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 7 minutes ago, bison73 said: You are correct. But you have some on this site stating it as fact. Fact is she said locker room wide??? What does that infer? But like I said. She was upset and used a generic wide brush statement. But lets keep beating this dead horse--oh it moved lets whack it again. I've read the thread. Nobody on here has said every single player was taking the PEDs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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90siouxfan Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 Do all FCS programs have an internal drug testing program? Is it an NCAA mandate to have an internal program? Are the results of the testing available to the public, or will a FOIA request be required? I suspect we are sitting on the lynchpin of the Bison dynasty, they figured out a way..... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 10 minutes ago, 90siouxfan said: Do all FCS programs have an internal drug testing program? Is it an NCAA mandate to have an internal program? Are the results of the testing available to the public, or will a FOIA request be required? I suspect we are sitting on the lynchpin of the Bison dynasty, they figured out a way..... As the Common Man Dan Cole would say, "either they're onto something, or they're on something." turns out it's the latter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB Cooper Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 I do know most NCAA Div 1 schools do internal drug testing. I have gone through it three times at UND. The results are kept internally, and punishments for a positive result are decided within the athletic dept. and athletic training dept. I do know there are certain positive test results that they have to follow NCAA guidelines & sanctions and go through with a punishment, but I do know of some circumstances where they have detected a positive result from a drug, but was just a slap on the wrist for the student-athlete (mainly street drugs). Many students just drink gallons of water before their urine test to dilute it, although sometimes they have to re-take the test if it is too diluted- key here is that you can extend the testing time period to get rid of certain drugs in your system. In the NDSU circumstance, the NCAA tested them in playoffs and found the positive result, we may never know if NDSU's internal drug testing detected it throughout the season or not. Not sure if anyone has posted this yet, but here's a good link for FAQ on the NCAA website: http://www.ncaa.org/sport-science-institute/topics/frequently-asked-questions-about-drug-testing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 The NCAA needs to look into this curious Ben Newman fellow. And his travels. And his offerings. Follow the Benjamins. All will become clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlinFlan80 Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 Ya know though Ben Newman didn’t sell him anything illegal. Illegal by NCAA standards, absolutely, but Newman made some easy money off that football team and by the looks of it is off other teams too. Supplements are a tricky game, it’s like Bison06 said awhile ago, safest just to stay off them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison73 Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, FlinFlan80 said: Ya know though Ben Newman didn’t sell him anything illegal. Illegal by NCAA standards, absolutely, but Newman made some easy money off that football team and by the looks of it is off other teams too. Supplements are a tricky game, it’s like Bison06 said awhile ago, safest just to stay off them. I agree. Stay off the stuff. But do we really know that that was the supplement that was the issue? Would 5hour energy pass the test? Still too many unknowns and no specific facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Sue Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 1 hour ago, bison73 said: The whole supplement industry isnt regulated or FDA approved. That means all of the detox your body crap to stuff for a healthy prostate etc etc etc has no govt over site. Its a multi Billion dollar industry. But people get upset when it has to do with athletics? Bison.... it is the cover up and blame that upset people not the product. Again, NSJuiceU could save some face by holding a press conference and accepting responsibility for their part in this. The Pontious Pilot routine is not too professional and reeks of a cover up. Someone made money off this young man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison06 Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 8 minutes ago, Mama Sue said: Bison.... it is the cover up and blame that upset people not the product. Again, NSJuiceU could save some face by holding a press conference and accepting responsibility for their part in this. The Pontious Pilot routine is not too professional and reeks of a cover up. Someone made money off this young man. I’ve been reading you type this for days and it’s bugged me so I have to say something now. Wouldn’t NDSjUice make more sense? Utilize the U that’s already there vs adding an additional U? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, Bison06 said: I’ve been reading you type this for days and it’s bugged me so I have to say something now. Wouldn’t NDSjUice make more sense? Utilize the U that’s already there vs adding an additional U? I prefer no abbreviations. North Dakota Steroid University. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison06 Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 10 minutes ago, Siouxphan27 said: I prefer no abbreviations. North Dakota Steroid University. See now that has some logic to it, replace state with another “s” word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison73 Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 31 minutes ago, Mama Sue said: Bison.... it is the cover up and blame that upset people not the product. Again, NSJuiceU could save some face by holding a press conference and accepting responsibility for their part in this. The Pontious Pilot routine is not too professional and reeks of a cover up. Someone made money off this young man. A lot of assumption in that post. Did you use assumptions and poor analogies in your nursing notes or facts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Sue Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 I used the Pontious Pilot analogy whenever it fits.... if you find it poor, that’s ok. Fact is: no one has given definitive answers or apologized. How long do you have for more nursing stories? They are facts. Like my grandson says, Man up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 Fact is Robbins’ NCAA career is over because of a failed post game substance test. What that does is open the door to follow up questions and not all of them will be pleasant or polite. And it’s a reasonable basis for a greater inquiry by media (no comment) or the State (given claims by the mother of State employees being involved) or the NCAA (to evaluate some of the parties involved or how certain things are being done by certain parties). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison73 Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 19 minutes ago, Mama Sue said: I used the Pontious Pilot analogy whenever it fits.... if you find it poor, that’s ok. Fact is: no one has given definitive answers or apologized. How long do you have for more nursing stories? They are facts. Like my grandson says, Man up! Nursing stories? LOL My wife is a BSN-RN ICU Supervisor retired. Im a retired X-ray tech. Plus we still have life long friends that still work in the industry. So I hear plenty. Since no one has given definitive answers-information I cant see how you can expect an apology out of anyone. But you go on with your assumptions. I will wait until all the facts are on the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Fella Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 Mc Feely story/NDSU needs to come clean. Story on internet. INFORUM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 https://www.inforum.com/sports/football/962042-McFeely-We-need-to-know-if-NDSU-staffer-provided-stimulant-that-led-to-football-players-suspension Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, Old Fella said: Mc Feely story/NDSU needs to come clean. Clean.......victory!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Sue Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 Excellent article! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 What else is the AD covering up if he’s lying about this and throwing a player under the bus? How can a coach of this kid just let him take the fall for them supplying PEDs to their players? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison73 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 It looks like we can put to bed that the Fargo media wont write any thing questionable about NDSU and or its football team. Or do you still think that Mcfeely and Kolpack will be banned form the locker room? I fully agree with the article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fry Bread Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 At this point they need to have a independent investigation. To much has been said in public not to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 11 minutes ago, bison73 said: It looks like we can put to bed that the Fargo media wont write any thing questionable about NDSU and or its football team. Or do you still think that Mcfeely and Kolpack will be banned form the locker room? I fully agree with the article. Only took a month. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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