bison73 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 Just now, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said: and every pre Super Bowl party in the state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 16 minutes ago, bison73 said: What would it take for you to believe, an on location, off season February ESPN Game Day Show of The SLIP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Sue Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said: and every pre Super Bowl party in the state. What? Where? Is it national now??? I am going to get a tattoo on my forehead that says “Told You!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 30 minutes ago, Bison06 said: A student-athlete who tests positive for a substance in a banned drug class other than “street drugs” is charged with the loss of one season of competition in all sports in addition to the use of a season, pursuant to Division I Bylaw 12.8.3.1 or Division II/III Bylaw 14.2.4.1, Which part of this is ambiguous? Caffiene is in the banned drug class of stimulant. This sentence refers directly to those drug classes. What am I missing? You know they don't test for street drugs or stimulants, while they do test for other drugs, during the season right? Those begin during the playoffs. Why are they tested separately? They don't see them as "performance enhancing." Thus, the NCAA gives out less suspension for "street drugs." Cocaine and Caffeine are classified the same to the NCAA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 The NCAA needs to look at this Ben Newman fellow and his various endeavors. NDSU’s relationship with him (payments, access) should be explored as part of a self or State evaluation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison73 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, Cratter said: You know they don't test for street drugs or stimulants during the season right? But they do for other classifications. Just the Championship part. These are tested separately. Why? They don't see those as the "performancing enhancing." Thus, the NCAA gives out less suspension for "street drugs." Cocaine and Caffeine are classified the same in the NCAA. So where are your athletes getting there supplements? Does the school supply them? Are there representatives from these companies on campus? Do the athletes buy them themselves?Who monitors these activities? The reason I ask is its already been stated here that UND athletes take supplements and its in every locker room in the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 1 minute ago, bison73 said: So where are your athletes getting there supplements? Does the school supply them? Are there representatives from these companies on campus? Do the athletes buy them themselves?Who monitors these activities? The reason I ask is its already been stated here that UND athletes take supplements and its in every locker room in the country. The illegal ones don’t come from our coaching staff. Can you confidently say the same?? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison06 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 9 minutes ago, Cratter said: You know they don't test for street drugs or stimulants, while they do test for other drugs, during the season right? Those begin during the playoffs. Why are they tested separately? They don't see them as "performance enhancing." Thus, the NCAA gives out less suspension for "street drugs." Cocaine and Caffeine are classified the same to the NCAA. What does any of the above have to do with the fact that you specifically stated that a player wouldn’t get a year suspension for caffiene and then I posted a direct quote from the ncaa website that says that in fact you can and do get suspended for a year for caffiene? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 1 minute ago, bison73 said: So where are your athletes getting there supplements? Does the school supply them? Are there representatives from these companies on campus? Do the athletes buy them themselves?Who monitors these activities? Maybe email Matt Larson and ask him if you want answers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison73 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cratter said: Maybe email Matt Larson and ask him if you want answers? Why would Matt know where you get your stuff? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison73 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, homer said: The illegal ones don’t come from our coaching staff. Can you confidently say the same?? Who said there was illegal drugs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison06 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Cratter said: Your a big boy. You can go find it. It's not hard. Just a little intelligence will lead you there. Nevermind, you'll probably never find it. He didn't test positive for caffeine. They don't give out a year suspension for stimulants (caffeine). A guy paid for by NDSU gave Performance enhancing substance that was widely used throughout the locker room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, bison73 said: Who said there was illegal drugs? The NCAA per their rules/regulations. When it comes to this that is all that matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fry Bread Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 You guys going to watch the BELOW the BELT Super Bowl, Deflated B———s Brady vs Crotch Kicking Suh? Or argue through it? Only asking for scientific purposes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison73 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, homer said: The NCAA per their rules/regulations. When it comes to this that is all that matters. So your athletes dont take supplements with caffeine in them? Yeah ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 We don’t know the issue is caffeine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 The NCAA easily reduces suspensions all the time for things like these. Right on the NCAA appeals page, "All you have to show is Robbins asked if the product contained a banned substance (cause the label said it didn't) and staffers said "No." That would likely be enough to overturn it. But in this case it was so cut and dry the NCAA had to say "Nope." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 Either NDSU has been slandered or is lying. After seeing the polar opposites presented by the Robbins and Larson I believe any investigative effort should come from outside NDSU. Its the only way to ensure a complete and unbiased fact finding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison73 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Cratter said: The NCAA easily reduces suspensions all the time for things like these. Right on the NCAA appeals page, "All you have to show is Robbins asked if the product contained a banned substance (cause the label said it didn't) and Newman said "No." That would be enought to overturn it. But in this case it was so cut and dry the NCAA had to say "Nope." Again you have no clue what you are talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 So the turds won’t believe the Robbins family when they are quoted, but now all of a sudden they fully believe the stimulant in question is caffeine, despite zero reports stating it was caffeine. And we are the ones jumping to conclusions. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, bison73 said: Again you have no clue what you are talking about. A lot more than you do. Unfortunately for NDSU, they can't use that appeal material right on the NCAA website, because it would have had to admit to administering the substance by someone NDSU hired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison73 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Cratter said: A lot more than you do. Obviously not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison73 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Siouxphan27 said: So the turds won’t believe the Robbins family when they are quoted, but now all of a sudden they fully believe the stimulant in question is caffeine, despite zero reports stating it was caffeine. And we are the ones jumping to conclusions. And you believe the opposite even though it wasnt reported. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Sue Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 Definitely a neutral party should review this.....lateral move to another school with no ties to NDSU or up the ladder.... where there’s smoke, there’s fire.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choyt3 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Siouxphan27 said: Wow you guys are sure getting ripped off by Ben Newman if apparently, according to your posts, all he’s been providing is overpriced Folgers. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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