Time to Boo Berry?

[MafiaMan]

1 hour ago, sioux24/7 said:

I’ve been one that has been pretty anti-Berry but like some others on here, I believe he deserves one more season to clean it up. If it’s anything even remotely like this season, buh-bye!

I dunno about that but it’s amazing seeing the pivot from Hakstol being excoriated for not winning a Frozen Four in what, seven chances, to defending Berry for missing NCAA tournaments altogether “because three straight Penrose Cups.”

[sioux24/7]

36 minutes ago, MafiaMan said:

I dunno about that but it’s amazing seeing the pivot from Hakstol being excoriated for not winning a Frozen Four in what, seven chances, to defending Berry for missing NCAA tournaments altogether “because three straight Penrose Cups.”

I guess I wasn’t intending on defending Berry. I would be more than fine with moving on. I just really don’t see it happening after this year. 

[MafiaMan]

5 minutes ago, sioux24/7 said:

I guess I wasn’t intending on defending Berry. I would be more than fine with moving on. I just really don’t see it happening after this year. 

I didn’t mean you in particular in terms of defending Berry and this season certainly isn’t enough to part ways with him.  The trend however. barring a miracle run to the NCHC championship, has definitely not been upward.  

North Dakota has 1 NCAA tournament win since 2016 against someplace called American International College.  1 post-season win.  Now ask yourself, would Dean Blais or Dave Hakstol have survived that statistic?  I doubt it. 

[burd]

6 minutes ago, MafiaMan said:

North Dakota has 1 NCAA tournament win since 2016 against someplace called American International College.  1 post-season win.  Now ask yourself, would Dean Blais or Dave Hakstol have survived that statistic?  I doubt it. 

That is a far more useful metric than asking how many banners he's won, IMO.

[90siouxfan]

Wonder if the former AD would be taking a differing view?

 

Mentioned earlier,  UM women's coach "asked to step down"....  is that just semantics or does "stepping down" get the school out of a contract?

 

[90siouxfan]

3 hours ago, MafiaMan said:

I dunno about that but it’s amazing seeing the pivot from Hakstol being excoriated for not winning a Frozen Four in what, seven chances, to defending Berry for missing NCAA tournaments altogether “because three straight Penrose Cups.”

Curious if you think it is the same persons "pivoting" in thier opinions,  or is a different point of view now grasping the bullhorn?

[omahasioux1]

16 hours ago, fightingsioux4life said:

I am giving him one season to clean this up. If nothing changes next year, it will be time for a change.

OK boss.

[ND_Texan]

4 hours ago, MafiaMan said:

I didn’t mean you in particular in terms of defending Berry and this season certainly isn’t enough to part ways with him.  The trend however. barring a miracle run to the NCHC championship, has definitely not been upward.  

North Dakota has 1 NCAA tournament win since 2016 against someplace called American International College.  1 post-season win.  Now ask yourself, would Dean Blais or Dave Hakstol have survived that statistic?  I doubt it. 

Probably the best comment I’ve read on this board in a very long time. 

[fightingsioux4life]

1 hour ago, omahasioux1 said:

OK boss.

So you are fine with what has gone down this season? I and a lot of others on here are not.

[gfhockey]

It seems like a lot of posters on this board are OK with just having a good culture and mentality versus winning games and getting into the attorney

[MafiaMan]

6 hours ago, gfhockey said:

It seems like a lot of posters on this board are OK with just having a good culture and mentality versus winning games and getting into the attorney

Maybe recruiting more pre-law major hockey players would help?

[The Sicatoka]

17 hours ago, gfhockey said:

... and getting into the attorney

Hak got an attorney for life while at UND. 

[gfhockey]

12 hours ago, MafiaMan said:

Maybe recruiting more pre-law major hockey players would help?

With trademarks

[Oxbow6]

1 minute ago, gfhockey said:

With trademarks

You are talking about NODAK jerseys now correct? 

[Blackheart]

6 hours ago, Oxbow6 said:

You are talking about NODAK jerseys now correct? 

Do we get to put the "D" back on them now that we're playing respectably in our own zone?

[siouxkid12]

Big Ten champion, 2x Big Ten coach of the year Tony Granato has been fired. 

[Frozen4sioux]

17 hours ago, siouxkid12 said:

Big Ten champion, 2x Big Ten coach of the year Tony Granato has been fired. 

.... and shouldn't be touched with a 20 ft pole... as they say.

[Kevin G]

18 hours ago, siouxkid12 said:

Big Ten champion, 2x Big Ten coach of the year Tony Granato has been fired. 

 

1 hour ago, Frozen4sioux said:

.... and shouldn't be touched with a 20 ft pole... as they say.

The quotes seem to suggest a parallel between Tony Granato and Brad Berry. 

• Granato at UW, 7 seasons: 105-129-16 (.452), 1 regular season championship, 0 NCAA tournament wins
• Berry at UND: 8 seasons, 178-90-31 (.647), 4 regular season championships, 5 NCAA tournament wins, 1 NCAA championship

I'm not seeing the parallel. 

Berry may or may not be the right guy to lead UND hockey, but the anti-Berry crowd will need to do better than comparing him to Tony Granato.

 

[brianvf]

25 minutes ago, Kevin G said:

 

The quotes seem to suggest a parallel between Tony Granato and Brad Berry. 

• Granato at UW, 7 seasons: 105-129-16 (.452), 1 regular season championship, 0 NCAA tournament wins
• Berry at UND: 8 seasons, 178-90-31 (.647), 4 regular season championships, 5 NCAA tournament wins, 1 NCAA championship

I'm not seeing the parallel. 

Berry may or may not be the right guy to lead UND hockey, but the anti-Berry crowd will need to do better than comparing him to Tony Granato.

 

Yeah whether you are a Berry supporter or not, it's pretty hard to compare those two coaching resumes.

[Frozen4sioux]

43 minutes ago, Kevin G said:

 

The quotes seem to suggest a parallel between Tony Granato and Brad Berry. 

• Granato at UW, 7 seasons: 105-129-16 (.452), 1 regular season championship, 0 NCAA tournament wins
• Berry at UND: 8 seasons, 178-90-31 (.647), 4 regular season championships, 5 NCAA tournament wins, 1 NCAA championship

I'm not seeing the parallel. 

Berry may or may not be the right guy to lead UND hockey, but the anti-Berry crowd will need to do better than comparing him to Tony Granato.

 

In no way "parralleled" him to Berry.

At all, in fact anything inferred could be.... 

"There's no way in hell I'd swap Berry for Granato" 

[Kevin G]

38 minutes ago, Frozen4sioux said:

In no way "parralleled" him to Berry.

At all, in fact anything inferred could be.... 

"There's no way in hell I'd swap Berry for Granato" 

Ah, I misread what you wrote. My bad, sorry about that. 

[siouxkid12]

1 hour ago, Kevin G said:

 

The quotes seem to suggest a parallel between Tony Granato and Brad Berry. 

• Granato at UW, 7 seasons: 105-129-16 (.452), 1 regular season championship, 0 NCAA tournament wins
• Berry at UND: 8 seasons, 178-90-31 (.647), 4 regular season championships, 5 NCAA tournament wins, 1 NCAA championship

I'm not seeing the parallel. 

Berry may or may not be the right guy to lead UND hockey, but the anti-Berry crowd will need to do better than comparing him to Tony Granato.

 

Never was comparing him to Berry. As a matter of fact, I've never been one to say that Berry should be released. 

[Kevin G]

17 minutes ago, siouxkid12 said:

Never was comparing him to Berry. As a matter of fact, I've never been one to say that Berry should be released. 

Apparently I was in an ornery mood when I read the thread earlier and saw something that wasn't there. My bad. In my defense, this is the "Time to Boo Berry?" thread.

[Frozen4sioux]

14 minutes ago, Kevin G said:

Apparently I was in an ornery mood when I read the thread earlier and saw something that wasn't there. My bad. In my defense, this is the "Time to Boo Berry?" thread.

Fair.

[siouxkid12]

31 minutes ago, Kevin G said:

Apparently I was in an ornery mood when I read the thread earlier and saw something that wasn't there. My bad. In my defense, this is the "Time to Boo Berry?" thread.

After I posted it I said “sh>^, wrong thread”

i am unsure how it gets transferred elsewhere too…