gfhockey Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 1 hour ago, jdub27 said: I'm not a lawyer, but firm of Baker Donelson sure is, and they just so happen to be experts in Title IX litigation. Which is why UND hired them to help oversee the process. I would guess there would have been a nice path to baseball and/or men's S&D returning if it wasn't done in the way it was. I highly doubt that Kennedy, being a fairly smart businessman himself (regardless of what your personal opinions of him are), decided on a whim to forge his own path on this. But there are still people who think the WIH program wasn't actually losing over a million dollars/year before they were assessed any sort of facility charges to their bottom line. Point is, you can't argue with people that have their own version of the truth. Und womens program was funded on par with the big schools but we never had the results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey23 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 1 hour ago, jdub27 said: I'm not a lawyer, but firm of Baker Donelson sure is, and they just so happen to be experts in Title IX litigation. Which is why UND hired them to help oversee the process. I would guess there would have been a nice path to baseball and/or men's S&D returning if it wasn't done in the way it was. I highly doubt that Kennedy, being a fairly smart businessman himself (regardless of what your personal opinions of him are), decided on a whim to forge his own path on this. But there are still people who think the WIH program wasn't actually losing over a million dollars/year before they were assessed any sort of facility charges to their bottom line. Point is, you can't argue with people that have their own version of the truth. Anyone who didn't pick up on the clue when they publicly announced that they had hired Baker Donelson and even explained in the media what their specialty was had their head buried in the sand. I remember when it was announced I said to my buddy "well, it looks like they are going to cut women's hockey." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberkas Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 8 hours ago, siouxkid12 said: Seems to be a fire storm on the facebook page "all things fighting sioux" one commentator said this and is it true? The proposed cuts by the department did not include Women's hockey nor did it included Women's swimming and diving. Kennedy changed what Faison proposed. I was there, everything you have been parroting in this thread is what you read in the papers and not the real story. What Faison and Irle originally proposed, cut UND down to the minimum sports for D1, and would have saved more money. This was supposed to have come out in a press conference on Monday, Kennedy stopped that and changed it to Wednesday. That's why the hockey recruit was in town. They weren't on the chopping block until Kennedy played politics. But didn't Schaffer pretty much do it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberkas Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 As much as they want to say they didn't know the coaches knew well before the recruit came to campus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodak651 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 Did the press ever request or report any foia emails about this subject? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxkid12 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 9 hours ago, nodak651 said: Did the press ever request or report any foia emails about this subject? Any reporter/media outlet who covered this topic would've been a fool not too. I believe Schlossman and Rob Port did... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 with all these former und olympians lighting it up it makes you wonder why we didn't see more success on the ice at the ralph....makes you wonder if it was coaching? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberkas Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 It was the coaching 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux rube Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 2 hours ago, cberkas said: It was the coaching It sure was 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn-O Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 3 hours ago, sioux rube said: It sure was Between him and Rivard it was just a comedy of errors. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberkas Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 How Idalski made players worse is the most surprising, once they left they all got better. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 4 hours ago, Shawn-O said: Between him and Rivard it was just a comedy of errors. rivard or tiffin.....worst ever at und? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 I’d say prior. Inherited a gem. Left future crap for tiffin who had no chance 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 9 hours ago, gfhockey said: I’d say prior. Inherited a gem. Left future crap for tiffin who had no chance Checks calendar ... well, here's the once a month gfhockey makes a solid, sound argument. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackheart Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 6 hours ago, The Sicatoka said: Checks calendar ... well, here's the once a month gfhockey makes a solid, sound argument. Even spell check didn't blow up on his last post; not bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Blackheart said: Even spell check didn't blow up on his last post; not bad. he was hacked...caulker grabbed it when gretzky challenged him to a game of golden tee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xcfire Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 On 1/23/2022 at 11:53 PM, Xcfire said: UND doesn’t need women’s hockey and women’s hockey doesn’t need UND when und drop the program there was only 35 teams now there is 42 Very few of D1 schools have attendance to women’s hockey Idalski never recruited anyone from the state of North Dakota currently there are 7 North Dakota girls playing D1 3 of them have been named all conference or 1st team i have $5 if anyone can name the 7 ND girls who used UND as a carrot inspiring them to pursue there dream A lot of People on this board don’t like women’s hockey living in the the twin cities and asking fathers of potential D1 girls if UND would bring back hockey would they pursue it they all said no like when your girlfriend cheats would you take them back let the other schools who are committed to having both men’s and women’s hockey programs continue to grow the sport for them Been 2 weeks I will give the answers to the ND 7 players in division 1 Hockey 1. Britta Curl F Bismarck -Plays at Wisconsin Currently headed to Beijing to play with USA-Wanted to go to UND but never got recruited till Wisconsin came after her https://uwbadgers.com/sports/womens-ice-hockey/roster/britta--curl/9888 2. Kennedy Blair G Bismarck - UND Redshirt, 4 years at Mercyhurst after UND cut the program full time starter at Mercyhurst and transfer graduate last year to Wisconsin and did win Multiple CHA Awards-Now in her 6th year, 2nd with Wisconsin winning a National Title Last year. Covid year gets an extra Yr of playing https://uwbadgers.com/sports/womens-ice-hockey/roster/kennedy-blair/9885 3. Lucy Morgan G -Mandan- ST. Lawrence University This one surprises me but I now remember when she upset #2 Fargo North South in the state tournament shots were 55-8 against and Mandan won, she was named 1st team ECAC and Goalie of the year Last year. Currently she is ranked 4th in the NCAA Division 1 in the nation https://saintsathletics.com/sports/womens-ice-hockey/roster/lucy-morgan/13003 4. Greyson Meyers F - Fargo North South-Plays for Bemidji Plays 2nd line has 6 goals and 9 assists https://www.bsubeavers.com/whockey/roster/2018-19/12192/graysen-myers/ 5 Anna Promersberger F-Shattuck-St Mary's - Alternate Captain for Penn State plays between 2-3rd line https://gopsusports.com/sports/womens-ice-hockey/roster/anna-promersberger/11768 6. Abby Promersberger sister F Fargo North South-Freshman at St Thomas University-which really took over UND sport making it the 8th team in the WCHA 2nd Line 5 Goals 7 assists https://tommiesports.com/sports/whockey/roster/abby-promersberger/7354 7. Avery Meyers-Sister F- Fargo North South -University of New Hampshire 3rd-4th Line 4 goals and 2 assist https://unhwildcats.com/sports/womens-ice-hockey/roster/avery-myers/8848 8. Quinn Kuntz G Grand Forks- plays at The Ohio state- has 2 games is the 4th Goalie https://ohiostatebuckeyes.com/roster/quinn-kuntz/ 9. Katelyn Arman-F Fargo North South University of Maine https://goblackbears.com/sports/womens-ice-hockey/roster/katelyn-arman/9052 So there is 9 players on Division 1 Hockey teams from North Dakota hats off for them beating the odds. If there are any more please share IMHO- I bet UND Hockey was a big influence on all these girls growing up that was the carrot, In the next 5-7 years I wonder how many North Dakota Girls will make a Division 1 squad- 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux rube Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 15 hours ago, Xcfire said: Been 2 weeks I will give the answers to the ND 7 players in division 1 Hockey 1. Britta Curl F Bismarck -Plays at Wisconsin Currently headed to Beijing to play with USA-Wanted to go to UND but never got recruited till Wisconsin came after her https://uwbadgers.com/sports/womens-ice-hockey/roster/britta--curl/9888 2. Kennedy Blair G Bismarck - UND Redshirt, 4 years at Mercyhurst after UND cut the program full time starter at Mercyhurst and transfer graduate last year to Wisconsin and did win Multiple CHA Awards-Now in her 6th year, 2nd with Wisconsin winning a National Title Last year. Covid year gets an extra Yr of playing https://uwbadgers.com/sports/womens-ice-hockey/roster/kennedy-blair/9885 3. Lucy Morgan G -Mandan- ST. Lawrence University This one surprises me but I now remember when she upset #2 Fargo North South in the state tournament shots were 55-8 against and Mandan won, she was named 1st team ECAC and Goalie of the year Last year. Currently she is ranked 4th in the NCAA Division 1 in the nation https://saintsathletics.com/sports/womens-ice-hockey/roster/lucy-morgan/13003 4. Greyson Meyers F - Fargo North South-Plays for Bemidji Plays 2nd line has 6 goals and 9 assists https://www.bsubeavers.com/whockey/roster/2018-19/12192/graysen-myers/ 5 Anna Promersberger F-Shattuck-St Mary's - Alternate Captain for Penn State plays between 2-3rd line https://gopsusports.com/sports/womens-ice-hockey/roster/anna-promersberger/11768 6. Abby Promersberger sister F Fargo North South-Freshman at St Thomas University-which really took over UND sport making it the 8th team in the WCHA 2nd Line 5 Goals 7 assists https://tommiesports.com/sports/whockey/roster/abby-promersberger/7354 7. Avery Meyers-Sister F- Fargo North South -University of New Hampshire 3rd-4th Line 4 goals and 2 assist https://unhwildcats.com/sports/womens-ice-hockey/roster/avery-myers/8848 8. Quinn Kuntz G Grand Forks- plays at The Ohio state- has 2 games is the 4th Goalie https://ohiostatebuckeyes.com/roster/quinn-kuntz/ 9. Katelyn Arman-F Fargo North South University of Maine https://goblackbears.com/sports/womens-ice-hockey/roster/katelyn-arman/9052 So there is 9 players on Division 1 Hockey teams from North Dakota hats off for them beating the odds. If there are any more please share IMHO- I bet UND Hockey was a big influence on all these girls growing up that was the carrot, In the next 5-7 years I wonder how many North Dakota Girls will make a Division 1 squad- My daughter was recruited by Bemidji St, St Cloud St, and Mankato. She loved Concordia and committed to them. A week later Idalski starts recruiting her. I told him she committed already elsewhere yet still called me 3 other times. Of course I didn’t answer. My daughter could not stand the man 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 We can mention all the ND girls we want but how many over the years actually went to UND or were even wanted by UND? Seems like all these dreams were never going to come to fruition anyway due to the Idol looking elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 BI's greatest mistake? Being too stubborn to look at a model that works at UND --> Get "blue chippa" (c) gfhockey talent and some local "grindas" (c) gfhockey to create a blend of styles and players. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: BI's greatest mistake? Being too stubborn to look at a model that works at UND --> Get "blue chippa" (c) gfhockey talent and some local "grindas" (c) gfhockey to create a blend of styles and players. He was all about Europeans it seemebd 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberkas Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 Idalski and Elander not getting it done at the Olympics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegas_Sioux Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 On 2/9/2022 at 6:34 PM, Xcfire said: Been 2 weeks I will give the answers to the ND 7 players in division 1 Hockey 1. Britta Curl F Bismarck -Plays at Wisconsin Currently headed to Beijing to play with USA-Wanted to go to UND but never got recruited till Wisconsin came after her https://uwbadgers.com/sports/womens-ice-hockey/roster/britta--curl/9888 2. Kennedy Blair G Bismarck - UND Redshirt, 4 years at Mercyhurst after UND cut the program full time starter at Mercyhurst and transfer graduate last year to Wisconsin and did win Multiple CHA Awards-Now in her 6th year, 2nd with Wisconsin winning a National Title Last year. Covid year gets an extra Yr of playing https://uwbadgers.com/sports/womens-ice-hockey/roster/kennedy-blair/9885 3. Lucy Morgan G -Mandan- ST. Lawrence University This one surprises me but I now remember when she upset #2 Fargo North South in the state tournament shots were 55-8 against and Mandan won, she was named 1st team ECAC and Goalie of the year Last year. Currently she is ranked 4th in the NCAA Division 1 in the nation https://saintsathletics.com/sports/womens-ice-hockey/roster/lucy-morgan/13003 4. Greyson Meyers F - Fargo North South-Plays for Bemidji Plays 2nd line has 6 goals and 9 assists https://www.bsubeavers.com/whockey/roster/2018-19/12192/graysen-myers/ 5 Anna Promersberger F-Shattuck-St Mary's - Alternate Captain for Penn State plays between 2-3rd line https://gopsusports.com/sports/womens-ice-hockey/roster/anna-promersberger/11768 6. Abby Promersberger sister F Fargo North South-Freshman at St Thomas University-which really took over UND sport making it the 8th team in the WCHA 2nd Line 5 Goals 7 assists https://tommiesports.com/sports/whockey/roster/abby-promersberger/7354 7. Avery Meyers-Sister F- Fargo North South -University of New Hampshire 3rd-4th Line 4 goals and 2 assist https://unhwildcats.com/sports/womens-ice-hockey/roster/avery-myers/8848 8. Quinn Kuntz G Grand Forks- plays at The Ohio state- has 2 games is the 4th Goalie https://ohiostatebuckeyes.com/roster/quinn-kuntz/ 9. Katelyn Arman-F Fargo North South University of Maine https://goblackbears.com/sports/womens-ice-hockey/roster/katelyn-arman/9052 So there is 9 players on Division 1 Hockey teams from North Dakota hats off for them beating the odds. If there are any more please share IMHO- I bet UND Hockey was a big influence on all these girls growing up that was the carrot, In the next 5-7 years I wonder how many North Dakota Girls will make a Division 1 squad- It’s too bad #1 failed covid protocol and is not going to Beijing but back to Madison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux rube Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 5 hours ago, Vegas_Sioux said: It’s too bad #1 failed covid protocol and is not going to Beijing but back to Madison Feel bad for and her family. I think her dad is taking it harder than Britta is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberkas Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Now that the gold medal game is over. Now all the fans wanting UND to add back womans hockey will disappear for another 4 years. When the twins talk about womans Olympic hockey again 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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