SWSiouxMN Posted February 10, 2017 Posted February 10, 2017 http://www.grandforksherald.com/news/4215654-kennedy-asks-deans-rewrites-budget-proposals Not surprising that some of the deans would try a one time cut. Good for Kennedy to call them out on it Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted February 10, 2017 Posted February 10, 2017 Why don't we just permanently abolish some academic departments and/or colleges and focus on the remaining units to make them stronger? Will it really ruin our reputation if we offer 150 majors instead of 200? Quote
cowboys5xsbs Posted February 10, 2017 Posted February 10, 2017 1 hour ago, John W. said: Ranking the sports on university campuses relative to TV exposure and ratings....1) football 2) basketball...after that you'd have to ask the networks....I would guess baseball,,track and field, softball, and perhaps wrestling rank above hockey. Nationally.... Hockey probably on a par with lacrosse...and women's hockey.....would barely register....the only time the US gets excited about amateur hockey....is once every 4 years ..at Olympic time....and now the pros have taken that over.....I have a friend who teaches @ASU.....didn't know the Sun Devils had a hockey team.....and he follows their FB , BB, baseball and softball teams....so is not a sports black hole!!!!! Check out press coverage in Minnesota relative to Gopher sports....where does hockey rank ...even "in the state of......"????? I lived in Minneapolis for a while. I would say it is pretty close to the basketball program in terms of coverage. The football program is definitely #1. 1 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted February 10, 2017 Posted February 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, cowboys5xsbs said: I lived in Minneapolis for a while. I would say it is pretty close to the basketball program in terms of coverage. The football program is definitely #1. Too bad they aren't ever #1 in any rankings that really matter. #suckedfor50years 2 Quote
nodak651 Posted February 10, 2017 Posted February 10, 2017 1 hour ago, John W. said: Ranking the sports on university campuses relative to TV exposure and ratings....1) football 2) basketball...after that you'd have to ask the networks....I would guess baseball,,track and field, softball, and perhaps wrestling rank above hockey. Nationally.... Hockey probably on a par with lacrosse...and women's hockey.....would barely register....the only time the US gets excited about amateur hockey....is once every 4 years ..at Olympic time....and now the pros have taken that over.....I have a friend who teaches @ASU.....didn't know the Sun Devils had a hockey team.....and he follows their FB , BB, baseball and softball teams....so is not a sports black hole!!!!! Check out press coverage in Minnesota relative to Gopher sports....where does hockey rank ...even "in the state of......"????? Ranking sports on University campuses across the country is irrelevant to any decisions that should be made at UND. How does Duke basketball being on TV benefit the basketball program here? (it doesn't). UND hockey and the NCHC, rather than the Big Sky, has a contract with CBS Sports Network for a reason. The ASU program is two years old, has no success yet, and they still play in a high school arena in the desert. Wouldn't doubt that they don't have a lot of support. The funny thing is (as much as I like UND basketball) the ASU hockey team already has 11.7K twitter followers, compared to 3.2K for UND basketball. Which is a black hole? 4 Quote
SWSiouxMN Posted February 10, 2017 Posted February 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said: Why don't we just permanently abolish some academic departments and/or colleges and focus on the remaining units to make them stronger? Will it really ruin our reputation if we offer 150 majors instead of 200? This brings up a story I was told last year by a professor who has been around for 40 years. This was back when they were doing the cuts the first time. Think this still applies to the current situation. Won't go into too much detail on it but basically the main point of it was the deans will look for anyway to claim their schools are the "most important" on campus and not do serious cuts or take it as seriously as they should. Plus they don't want to cut a major and take the heat for it.... even thought exactly how much of that heat was on the Dean of the Arts and Science when she put MT on the table to being cut? I don't think too much. 1 Quote
darell1976 Posted February 10, 2017 Posted February 10, 2017 33 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said: Too bad they aren't ever #1 in any rankings that really matter. #suckedfor50years Last time they won a NC (1960) Houston was a member of the MVFC. 1 Quote
WiSioux Posted February 10, 2017 Posted February 10, 2017 3 hours ago, Siouxphan27 said: I disagree. There's nothing cheap about women's hockey. Or football. Or swimming and diving. Or baseball/softball. Take your pick. Sports are expensive. Here I thought this thread was about academic budget cuts at UMD, my bad. I didn't know some of you were such d-bags. 2 7 Quote
UND1983 Posted February 10, 2017 Posted February 10, 2017 10 minutes ago, WiSioux said: Or football. Or swimming and diving. Or baseball/softball. Take your pick. Sports are expensive. Here I thought this thread was about academic budget cuts at UMD, my bad. I didn't know some of you were such d-bags. Some are way more expensive than others with literally zero return on investment. 5 1 Quote
darell1976 Posted February 10, 2017 Posted February 10, 2017 1 hour ago, WiSioux said: Or football. Or swimming and diving. Or baseball/softball. Take your pick. Sports are expensive. Here I thought this thread was about academic budget cuts at UMD, my bad. I didn't know some of you were such d-bags. But some sports take in money like football, men's hockey and basketball. How much money is made with Swimming, softball, or women's hockey....very, very little. 1 Quote
crb1 Posted February 10, 2017 Posted February 10, 2017 Whether a position like this is needed can be debated but the optics of it at this time are not good at all. http://www.grandforksherald.com/news/4215813-und-seeks-presidential-event-coordinator-during-hiring-freeze 2 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted February 10, 2017 Posted February 10, 2017 5 minutes ago, crb1 said: Whether a position like this is needed can be debated but the optics of it at this time are not good at all. http://www.grandforksherald.com/news/4215813-und-seeks-presidential-event-coordinator-during-hiring-freeze Let me guess, Federal regulations are forcing them to create this position. Quote
Siouxperfan7 Posted February 10, 2017 Posted February 10, 2017 32 minutes ago, crb1 said: Whether a position like this is needed can be debated but the optics of it at this time are not good at all. http://www.grandforksherald.com/news/4215813-und-seeks-presidential-event-coordinator-during-hiring-freeze Kennedy response to the hiring of an Event Coordinator at UND.... 1 Quote
Popular Post NoiseInsideMyHead Posted February 10, 2017 Popular Post Posted February 10, 2017 38 minutes ago, crb1 said: Whether a position like this is needed can be debated but the optics of it at this time are not good at all. http://www.grandforksherald.com/news/4215813-und-seeks-presidential-event-coordinator-during-hiring-freeze Small-minded people tend to think small. Presidents are held to a high standard, and much is expected. Yes, they have a staff to facilitate the breadth of their responsibilities. They also have homes, vehicle allowances, entertainment budgets, etc. The article says this is not a new position. If anyone wants to begrudge the President any of these things, they can kindly keep their seat when the President does not hit target goal X by date Y, or fails to cultivate Z relationships, or does not live up to whatever impossible standard the would-be critic seeks to impose. 6 Quote
talksalot83 Posted February 10, 2017 Posted February 10, 2017 5 hours ago, fightingsioux4life said: Why don't we just permanently abolish some academic departments and/or colleges and focus on the remaining units to make them stronger? Will it really ruin our reputation if we offer 150 majors instead of 200? They are. Music therapy, integrated studies and it sounds like Women and Gender Studies, too. There will likely be more. Quote
talksalot83 Posted February 10, 2017 Posted February 10, 2017 31 minutes ago, NoiseInsideMyHead said: Small-minded people tend to think small. Presidents are held to a high standard, and much is expected. Yes, they have a staff to facilitate the breadth of their responsibilities. They also have homes, vehicle allowances, entertainment budgets, etc. The article says this is not a new position. If anyone wants to begrudge the President any of these things, they can kindly keep their seat when the President does not hit target goal X by date Y, or fails to cultivate Z relationships, or does not live up to whatever impossible standard the would-be critic seeks to impose. I think the President could probably do without the position for a while in a hiring freeze and budget cuts. If you want to show how much you care about a business/institution, you should show that you're willing to take hits, too. I'm sure he's not going to cut his salary. I don't begrudge Kennedy for filling position when it was already there, but it's leadership isn't just about making tough decisions that effect everybody else. Quote
Hawkster Posted February 10, 2017 Posted February 10, 2017 1 hour ago, crb1 said: Whether a position like this is needed can be debated but the optics of it at this time are not good at all. http://www.grandforksherald.com/news/4215813-und-seeks-presidential-event-coordinator-during-hiring-freeze I actually looked to see if was published by The Onion or something similar. We're cutting everything imaginable and this guy wants to hire a party coordinator. I think we need a new prez. 2 Quote
Popular Post The Sicatoka Posted February 10, 2017 Popular Post Posted February 10, 2017 The position that is posted is, believe it or not, a key position. It sets up schmoozing events where UND brings in what Vegas calls "whales" (not small time high rollers, but whales) and wines and dines and then asks for donations. Why do you think it talks about setting up events at the president's house and at the boxes in the arenas? Know the whale's likes are (socials, sports), put them there, let the schmoozing commence, and then ask for money. If the person in that position is doing it right they pay for themself with one donor from one event. And in this budget climate we need events and donors. Don't like it? Sorry, but that's how the world works. 10 Quote
Popular Post Teeder11 Posted February 11, 2017 Popular Post Posted February 11, 2017 42 minutes ago, TRex said: I actually looked to see if was published by The Onion or something similar. We're cutting everything imaginable and this guy wants to hire a party coordinator. I think we need a new prez. It's not a new position. It's been there since at least Kupchella. ...and I'm sorry, but it is needed. The position does far more than what's listed in the Herald, which seemed to only highlight the responsibilities that might elicit populist outrage. 7 Quote
runaroundsioux Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, Teeder11 said: It's not a new position. It's been there since at least Kupchella. ...and I'm sorry, but it is needed. The position does far more than what's listed in the Herald, which seemed to only highlight the responsibilities that might elicit populist outrage. Fake news? 1 Quote
iluvdebbies Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 http://www.grandforksherald.com/opinion/op-ed-columns/4216187-und-president-vital-fill-und-event-coordinator-position Quote
AJS Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 7 minutes ago, iluvdebbies said: http://www.grandforksherald.com/opinion/op-ed-columns/4216187-und-president-vital-fill-und-event-coordinator-position The Herald should be embarrassed about the first article they put out. 4 Quote
Milford torgerson Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, AJS said: The Herald should be embarrassed about the first article they put out. Yes they should. All universities have such people simply because they have too. Donors and potential donors don't have to write any checks if they choose not too. It's not like an appropriation. These have to be schmoozed a little 1 Quote
Hawkster Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 4 hours ago, Teeder11 said: It's not a new position. It's been there since at least Kupchella. ...and I'm sorry, but it is needed. The position does far more than what's listed in the Herald, which seemed to only highlight the responsibilities that might elicit populist outrage. I fully understand that now, but, I really think it would be in our best interest if the position went unfilled. At least it would make it look like the administration was suffering due to cuts just like the average Joe. It's really a matter of perspective. 1 1 Quote
Blackheart Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 7 hours ago, Siouxperfan7 said: Kennedy response to the hiring of an Event Coordinator at UND.... OMG! Isn't that Mike Honcho? 1 Quote
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