FCS Playoff Selection Show Thread

[Wildfan]

Did Western Illinois play Illinois State? Did giving ISU #2 over NDSU possibly allow NCAA to sneak them by as a better loss than UND to NDSU?

[North Dakota]

Not getting in really sucks. We were always a bubble team but really think we deserved to get in over EIU or WIU. But it is what is and hopefully it puts a huge chip on the players returning next season! Leave no doubt!

[Old School Guy]

my opinion is 7 wins, and we were kept out.  8 wins and we wouldn't be having this conversation on why we were left out.  I'm not close to the team so can't comment on the intangibles regarding ndsu.  But the collapses in Weber and ISU still happened despite whatever growth happened at ndsu.  Bartels didn't play D in those games.....would've been nice if Arnell could have.   

 

If we beat Idaho State or manage clock better at Weber State we are high fiving playoffs right now.

[farce poobah]

This non selection will sting for a long while.   

It should be a wakeup call to leadership in the Big Sky; somewhere in all this were political failings.   

[andtheHomeoftheSIOUX!!]

If we beat Idaho State or manage clock better at Weber State we are high fiving playoffs right now.

I know it.  Sucks to think about what could have been.

[geaux_sioux]

This non selection will sting for a long while.   

It should be a wakeup call to leadership in the Big Sky; somewhere in all this were political failings.   

No. We need to win more game period.

[Bison06]

Which is better: win over PSU or SDSU? 

Answer: Which one is a top 8 seed? 

disagree, I think SDSU is the better team. I think PSU is a good team, but losses to UND and more importantly northern Colorado two non playoff teams show that they won't make a long run in the playoffs in my mind. I don't think SDSU would lose to either of those teams. I believe a team is only as good as its losses. Yes that includes NDSU.

ALL of SDSU's losses are to playoff teams.

Edited November 22, 2015 by Bison06

[The Sicatoka]

Your logic: SDSU is a top 8. Fair enough

NCAA logic: PSU is top 8.

Problem: NCAA not consistent in its logic. 

[UNDBIZ]

Portland St had the right to be upset as well. If their name is EWU with the exact same resume, they're probably a top 3 seed. 2 wins over fbs, one against a very good team and one absolutely dominating. Their losses came against UND, a team with a similar resume to Montana, and weber st, a better team on paper than south Dakota.....

[UNDBIZ]

disagree, I think SDSU is the better team. I think PSU is a good team, but losses to UND and more importantly northern Colorado two non playoff teams show that they won't make a long run in the playoffs in my mind. I don't think SDSU would lose to either of those teams. I believe a team is only as good as its losses. Yes that includes NDSU.

What do ndsu's losses to Montana and south Dakota show, as far as playoff potential? 

[mksioux]

I'm new to fcs playoff selection. Can someone please tell me why they don't use some sort of computer model, or at least have defined standards? To me, the way it's done seems like amateur hour.

[FSSD]

disagree, I think SDSU is the better team. I think PSU is a good team, but losses to UND and more importantly northern Colorado two non playoff teams show that they won't make a long run in the playoffs in my mind. I don't think SDSU would lose to either of those teams. I believe a team is only as good as its losses. Yes that includes NDSU.

So, you are into moral victories...  I look at wins - PSU has the most impressive win in FCS.  They beat a FBS 8-3 Washington State.

whoooo - I missed your comment about SDSU vs UND and SDSU would win.  The way UND is playing right now - UND vs SDSU is no gimme for SDSU.

Edited November 22, 2015 by FSSD
had to add to my rant

[Bison06]

What do ndsu's losses to Montana and south Dakota show, as far as playoff potential? 

that's what I just said, includes NDSU. Wouldn't be surprised if they don't make a deep run this year. 

[The Sicatoka]

I am pretty sure there was a formula floating around here last week.

Was it used?

[Wildfan]

I think we would beat SDSU as well

[2TRU4U]

I'm new to fcs playoff selection. Can someone please tell me why they don't use some sort of computer model, or at least have defined standards? To me, the way it's done seems like amateur hour.

They do
http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/football/fcs/simple-ratings-system

 

[Wildfan]

We were told moral victories aka losses don't matter. I guess they do now

[Bison06]

I think we would beat SDSU as well

Anything is possible, but what makes you say that? 

[UNDBIZ]

ALL of SDSU's losses are to playoff teams.

So they're well coached enough to not have let downs against bad teams, but not talented enough to beat good teams. Sounds like they're way better than a seeded PSU that beat 2 fbs teams who are both better than any win sdsu has. 

[gundy1124]

i am talking about pass coverage scheme when teams decide they want to air it out. Go nickle or dime package and mix man with zone.

we need another element to the d package when teams go pass happy, yes, but mostly we need to work on positioning and ball skills.  A lot of times we were really close, just need to win more 1 on 1 battles.  

[Siouxperman8]

I don't buy the theory of missing out on playoffs will give us great motivation.  It is motivation but the best motivation going into next year would have been to make the damn playoffs and build on it.

Edited November 22, 2015 by Siouxperman8

[Old School Guy]

I say go nickle and blitz a corner....

[mksioux]

They do
http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/football/fcs/simple-ratings-system

 

i meant one that the selection committee actually follows.

[gundy1124]

We didn't have the personel to do that this year. Maybe at the end when the CBs seemed to get their !@#$ together. Next year I predict our secondary will be a strength. Book it.

I think that's right, the staff felt better with our outside backers on the field compared to bringing in another safety or corner.

[shep]

No. We need to win more game period.

THIS!!

One negative of the boards is the excuses people come up with as though the whole world is against UND. I can't even go to a hockey game night thread without reading about how the refs are out to get us.

Maybe we do "deserve" it more than a team or two, but we had the games in our hand and we blew them.

This should be the BEST thing to happen to this team. Their should be a chip (as another poster noted) that causes them to use this pain for the next several months in the weight room or wherever they develop skills. This should show recruits they can become part of a team on the upswing that will be in the race next year. This can be a good thing.