Nodak78 Posted November 26, 2017 Posted November 26, 2017 40 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said: Your dislike for the superior MVFC relative to the BSC makes you quite irritable. I wouldn't expect different from someone who "hates everyone in UND's new conference". It's okay to be biased and favor UND as I certainly fit into that category as well; however, every once and awhile you have to call a spade a spade. As of now UND football is independent for the next 2 years. Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted November 26, 2017 Posted November 26, 2017 22 minutes ago, Nodak78 said: As of now UND football is independent for the next 2 years. Yes, a requirement to get into a superior football conference. Great move for UND football. Quote
homer Posted November 26, 2017 Posted November 26, 2017 1 hour ago, UND-FB-FAN said: It's okay to be biased and favor UND as I certainly fit into that category as well; however, every once and awhile you have to call a spade a spade. So every once in a while you have to be honest about the situation? 1 Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted November 26, 2017 Posted November 26, 2017 12 hours ago, homer said: But they lost to Montana and didn’t play EWU. Thats the barometer that your not good right? when youngstown went into big bad ewu last year (minus 5 starters/players suspended) and beat them up...i was done. 4 Quote
homer Posted November 26, 2017 Posted November 26, 2017 6 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: when youngstown went into big bad ewu last year (minus 5 starters/players suspended) and beat them up...i was done. Done with what? Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted November 26, 2017 Posted November 26, 2017 4 minutes ago, homer said: Done with what? thinking big sky football was better than mvfc...then san diego beat poly last year and nau gets destroyed by san diego again... Quote
Oxbow6 Posted November 26, 2017 Posted November 26, 2017 The MVC is a vastly superior FB conference top to bottom year in and year out compared to the BSC. With that said I'm still in the camp UND athletics should have stayed put in the BSC. 1 1 Quote
UND1983 Posted November 26, 2017 Posted November 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: thinking big sky football was better than mvfc...then san diego beat poly last year and nau gets destroyed by san diego again... Who has ever said the Big Sky was better?? Quote
JohnboyND7 Posted November 26, 2017 Posted November 26, 2017 6 minutes ago, UND1983 said: Who has ever said the Big Sky was better?? Some homers on here have strongly implied the leagues are similar in quality. I think darell has led the charge there. The Valley is pretty tough. No way around it. You get a couple "gimme" games but the rest of the teams are usually at least respectable it seems like. Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted November 26, 2017 Posted November 26, 2017 1 hour ago, UND1983 said: Who has ever said the Big Sky was better?? me Quote
zonadub Posted November 26, 2017 Posted November 26, 2017 39 minutes ago, JohnboyND7 said: Some homers on here have strongly implied the leagues are similar in quality. I think darell has led the charge there. The Valley is pretty tough. No way around it. You get a couple "gimme" games but the rest of the teams are usually at least respectable it seems like. No, iirc ‘Fighting Hawks ‘ Darrel has been on the Summit/MoValley bandwagon for a long time. Wants to get back to the old Dakota rivalries. Quote
SiouxBoys Posted November 26, 2017 Posted November 26, 2017 5 hours ago, UND-FB-FAN said: The "Bizon's" play big boy football. USD has a good squad this year. 45-7 dismantling suggests that. Meamwhile, Bubba and UND are trying to "ease" on in their freshmen who just "aren't quite ready yet". I don't enjoy playing devil's advocate, but it's needed some around here some. UND football is currently not deserving of excessive praise. You're not even playing devils advocate anymore. You're honestly on the verge of trolling. 2 Quote
bincitysioux Posted November 26, 2017 Posted November 26, 2017 4 hours ago, UND-FB-FAN said: Your dislike for the superior MVFC relative to the BSC makes you quite irritable. I wouldn't expect different from someone who "hates everyone in UND's new conference". It's okay to be biased and favor UND as I certainly fit into that category as well; however, every once and awhile you have to call a spade a spade. Your obsession with NDSU makes you quite irritable. Why don't you just give Team Makers a call: 888-231-NDSU And by the way, the MVFC sucks! 1 3 Quote
Texas rancher Posted November 26, 2017 Posted November 26, 2017 So does binford, but we must play the hand we are dealt in life don't we? Quote
Oxbow6 Posted November 26, 2017 Posted November 26, 2017 When UND gets into the MVC they will play all the Dakota schools every year. Least in the BSC Bubba can avoid EWU and Montana on occasion. Quote
petey23 Posted November 27, 2017 Posted November 27, 2017 3 hours ago, JohnboyND7 said: Some homers on here have strongly implied the leagues are similar in quality. I think darell has led the charge there. The Valley is pretty tough. No way around it. You get a couple "gimme" games but the rest of the teams are usually at least respectable it seems like. Well there you have it. darell couldn't lead a group in silent prayer. Quote
Hawkster Posted November 27, 2017 Posted November 27, 2017 3 hours ago, Oxbow6 said: The MVC is a vastly superior FB conference top to bottom year in and year out compared to the BSC. With that said I'm still in the camp UND athletics should have stayed put in the BSC. ^^^This, top to bottom. I too felt we should have stayed in the Sky, it fit us better I have a feeling the Mo Valley is going to be a learning experience in those early years. Quote
Siouxphan27 Posted November 27, 2017 Posted November 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Texas rancher said: So does binford, but we must play the hand we are dealt in life don't we? You know, just because your girlfriend is enormous, that alone doesn't make you a rancher. You need a herd, not just one. Quote
homer Posted November 27, 2017 Posted November 27, 2017 55 minutes ago, TRex said: ^^^This, top to bottom. I too felt we should have stayed in the Sky, it fit us better I have a feeling the Mo Valley is going to be a learning experience in those early years. I actually think there is an understanding of what the team needs to look like. Just need to continue recruiting that type of player and build depth. Quote
Hawkster Posted November 27, 2017 Posted November 27, 2017 25 minutes ago, homer said: I actually think there is an understanding of what the team needs to look like. Just need to continue recruiting that type of player and build depth. Need to continue? LOL. Surely you jest!!!! When did we ever start recruiting that type of player? That's been the problem since the days of the transition and what I blame the 3-8 on. 1 Quote
Oxbow6 Posted November 27, 2017 Posted November 27, 2017 13 minutes ago, TRex said: Need to continue? LOL. Surely you jest!!!! When did we ever start recruiting that type of player? That's been the problem since the days of the transition and what I blame the 3-8 on. Exactly.........is Bubba Ball going to change dramatically by 2020? He wants to stop the run.......run the ball. Neither will happen in the MVC unless Bubba can first recruit those type of players. If he continues recruit the player he has to date UND will have lots of 3-8 seasons in the MVC. Quote
Oxbow6 Posted November 27, 2017 Posted November 27, 2017 Bobby Hauck interviewing this coming week for the Griz HC job which he held from '03-'09. Quote
homer Posted November 27, 2017 Posted November 27, 2017 51 minutes ago, TRex said: Need to continue? LOL. Surely you jest!!!! When did we ever start recruiting that type of player? That's been the problem since the days of the transition and what I blame the 3-8 on. Don’t call me Shirley. I really think if you look at the different body type of o and d linemen the last two classes (last year and commitments this year) the coaches know we need to be bigger and better in those spots. Bigger at OLB and more athletic in the slot It’s not going to happen over night and I don’t think the coaches would lie and tell you they missed on a few recruits in their first full class Having some kids not show up or decommit late hurt that class I don’t fully count Bubbas first recruiting class pulled some athletes but Faison drug his feet too long that year Tough to recruit a class starting late December when your staff isn’t in place yet Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted November 27, 2017 Posted November 27, 2017 6 hours ago, SiouxBoys said: You're not even playing devils advocate anymore. You're honestly on the verge of trolling. Saying things stale homers don't agree with is not trolling if it is in fact my opinion. DICTIONARY trolling× troll2 trōl/ verb gerund or present participle: trolling 1. informal make a deliberately offensive or provocative online post with the aim of upsetting someone or eliciting an angry response from them. "if people are obviously trolling then I'll delete your posts and do my best to ban you" The exceptionally passionate of UND's fan base which make up this forum have a difficult time acknowledging necessary change. Maintaining the status quo is not supporting UND; in fact, its betrayal when you've just gone 3 - 8. Quote
darell1976 Posted November 27, 2017 Posted November 27, 2017 12 hours ago, JohnboyND7 said: Some homers on here have strongly implied the leagues are similar in quality. I think darell has led the charge there. The Valley is pretty tough. No way around it. You get a couple "gimme" games but the rest of the teams are usually at least respectable it seems like. True, I have said they are similar powerful conferences. It’s not like the Big Sky is DII and the MVFC is the FBS, you have tough teams and you have bottom feeders. Every once in a while a couple teams make it towards the top then fall. You Bison fans (yes you too Johnboy) think UND will be a bottom feeder, have we ever been a bottom feeder in a conference in football? We ruled the NCC, we were at the top of the BSC in Bubba’s 3rd year? We can rule the MVFC. Just like I am sure UNI, SIU and YSU thought that way about NDSU after your not so stellar start to the MVFC for the first 3 seasons. Quote
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