jimdahl Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 Ok, no one else started the poll, I will A lot of the real dogs (spirit, force, pride) were eliminated, but so were a couple of people (explorers, cavalry) except RoughRiders (and perhaps a Nodak, still not sure what that is). Again, the question is which could you live with? For most people, that may be more than one. Quote
Oxbow6 Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 Ridas is far and away the best option. Could live with North Dakota or North Stars. Remaining 4 make my gag. 2 Quote
Siouxperfan7 Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 The committee developed criteria that they developed that they wanted the new nickname to have: Be unique, recognizable, inspiring, and distinctly UND’s; Promote a sense of pride, strength, fierceness, and passion; Be representative of the state and region in a way that honors the traditions and heritage of the past but also looks to the future; and Be a unifying and rallying symbol. If you look at the committees own criteria, there is really only one name that fits all of them...ROUGHRIDERS. 4 Quote
Oxbow6 Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 My guess at what will be ultimately the final 3 to vote on: Green Hawks (Consultants pick) Nodaks (Pick to appease the "no nickname" crowd) Sundogs (Kelley/Russ/PC pick) There are not enough people on that committee to understand political correctness should not trump sound judgement and logic based on their own criteria set forth from the beginning. Quote
southpaw Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 I originally had Roughriders, Cavalry and Explorers as my top 3. While I would be ecstatic if Ridazzz was chosen, I think I could live with Fighting Hawks and Nodaks as long as the logos were quality. I'm still torn on North Stars. I think it would be accepted over time but there would be some backlash at first from Minnesotans. Sundogs, remaining North Dakota and Green Hawks don't really do it for me although I could eventually live with Green Hawks. Quote
southpaw Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 My guess at what will be ultimately the final 3 to vote on: Green Hawks Nodaks Sundogs There are not enough people on that committee to understand political correctness should not trump sound judgement and logic based on their own criteria set forth from the beginning. I think Roughriders makes the top 3. It did receive the most votes. I would guess Roughriders, Sundogs and Nodaks make top 3. I can't see them keeping North Dakota as an option as that would probably run away with the vote. 1 Quote
Frozen4sioux Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 How in the H E Double Hockey Sticks is North Stars still an option. What a shyte show. Sundogs can also instantly go so there we have it down to 5. Green Hawks can fly into a window so, gone......down to 4. Roughriders is as original as an SNL skit....gone......to the 3. North Dakota Nodak Fighting Hawks...... Send em up for a vote.....who gives a shyte. I'll never refer to the teams by it. Myself, my kids, their kids, and their great great grandkids will have enough Fighting Sioux gear to wear long after they're all enslaved by their PC libtard overlords. 1 1 Quote
The Sicatoka Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 (reposted here, because it probably better applies here) My take on the Silly Seven, and I see these seven in four categories: < adjective > Hawks: This is the standard consultant template. Look at Miami and a host of other schools that have dropped Native related names. It's so pattern and predictable that it's a running joke. And it needs to be dismissed out of hand. The Unimaginative: Yes, that's Nodaks and North Dakota. Nothing says unique and creative like using the state name, or better yet, shortening it to a postal code abbreviation. The unimaginative is not worthy of a center of creativity like a university. The State Nicknames: Well, that's what Roughriders and North Stars are, state nicknames; except, North Stars is not North Dakota's but is Minnesota's and must be dismissed as such summarily. Duckies, Bunnies, Rainbows, and Unicorns; aka The Kumbahyas: Sundogs are light and sunny and rainbows ... just sunshine on ice crystals, ... or are they. Sundogs mean it's cold and going to be colder. If you're from North Dakota sundogs are not something you want to see in January. Or it means something very different and that is a Class A misdemeanor (or is it a Class C felony). Run through that list of trite template solutions, the completely unimaginative, and sunshine on ice crystals which also means a crime (sex in public) and what are you left with? Minnesota - the Gopher State Iowa - the Hawkeye State Nebraska - the Cornhusker State Kansas - the Jayhawk State North Dakota - the Roughrider State The TR Rough Rider Award is the State's highest award. Just ask UND Athletics icons Fido Purpur and Phil Jackson. 3 Quote
Hambone Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 I guess Roughriders is the only one that makes sense to me. I've pretty much went from anti-Roughriders to that being the choice I'm firmly behind. 4 Quote
siouxfan512 Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 My guess at what will be ultimately the final 3 to vote on: Green Hawks (Consultants pick) Nodaks (Pick to appease the "no nickname" crowd) Sundogs (Kelley/Russ/PC pick) There are not enough people on that committee to understand political correctness should not trump sound judgement and logic based on their own criteria set forth from the beginning. This would be awful Quote
siouxfan512 Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 Comments on the Star Tribune article are already blowing up on the consideration of the use of North Stars. Further proof how stupid it is. Great name, but not for a North Dakota team. 1 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 Comments on the Star Tribune article are already blowing up on the consideration of the use of North Stars. Further proof how stupid it is. Great name, but not for a North Dakota team. So you are saying that ticking off Gopher fans is a bad idea? Anything that gets under their skin is a positive, IMHO. Besides, we could use just "Stars" without the directional abjective in front of it and it probably would STILL tick them off! For the record, I voted Roughriders in the poll and I think that is what it will end up being. Quote
GeauxSioux Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 I guess Roughriders is the only one that makes sense to me. I've pretty much went from anti-Roughriders to that being the choice I'm firmly behind. Ditto. Quote
Siouxperfan7 Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 So you are saying that ticking off Gopher fans is a bad idea? Anything that gets under their skin is a positive, IMHO. Besides, we could use just "Stars" without the directional abjective in front of it and it probably would STILL tick them off! For the record, I voted Roughriders in the poll and I think that is what it will end up being. Hey, if a Central alum can get behind the name Roughriders, than anyone can!!! 1 Quote
keikla Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 I don't really want to cheer for Hawks, but I could do it. Same goes for Sundogs. But I gag every time I think of cheering for the North Stars. Loved the pro team, love the name in general, but it's the MINNESOTA (not north dakota) state nickname. I don't understand why it's even in contention. Quote
sioux rube Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 Comments on the Star Tribune article are already blowing up on the consideration of the use of North Stars. Further proof how stupid it is. Great name, but not for a North Dakota team. Exactly yet it makes top 7 still. Quote
Hawk E Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 North Stars isn't a good plan, but the north star is known as Polaris. Is it a possibility to use that? It doesn't do much for me, but it would get us away from Minnesota's state motto. Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 Exactly yet it makes top 7 still. Remember, variations on names could come into play here. :"Stars" without the "North" in front of it might be what is being considered here. But that is just pure speculation; I have no contacts on the Committee (maybe gfhockey does though! ). Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 Hey, if a Central alum can get behind the name Roughriders, than anyone can!!! As long as we aren't considering Spoilers (GPR) or Bruins (Fargo South), I can live with it! Quote
UNDBIZ Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 North Stars isn't a good plan, but the north star is known as Polaris. Is it a possibility to use that? It doesn't do much for me, but it would get us away from Minnesota's state motto. Already planning ahead for corporate sponsorship. Good thinking Quote
Hawk E Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 You gotta do what you gotta do. It isn't like we're unaware of the fact the company exists. Quote
tnt Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 So you are saying that ticking off Gopher fans is a bad idea? Anything that gets under their skin is a positive, IMHO. Besides, we could use just "Stars" without the directional abjective in front of it and it probably would STILL tick them off! For the record, I voted Roughriders in the poll and I think that is what it will end up being. Hey, if we were going to be the "Force of the North", we just could have been the "Stars of the North". Sure it's semantics, but it wouldn't actually be North Stars. O.K. then, Roughriders it is! Quote
tnt Posted June 16, 2015 Posted June 16, 2015 (reposted here, because it probably better applies here) My take on the Silly Seven, and I see these seven in four categories: < adjective > Hawks: This is the standard consultant template. Look at Miami and a host of other schools that have dropped Native related names. It's so pattern and predictable that it's a running joke. And it needs to be dismissed out of hand. The Unimaginative: Yes, that's Nodaks and North Dakota. Nothing says unique and creative like using the state name, or better yet, shortening it to a postal code abbreviation. The unimaginative is not worthy of a center of creativity like a university. The State Nicknames: Well, that's what Roughriders and North Stars are, state nicknames; except, North Stars is not North Dakota's but is Minnesota's and must be dismissed as such summarily. Duckies, Bunnies, Rainbows, and Unicorns; aka The Kumbahyas: Sundogs are light and sunny and rainbows ... just sunshine on ice crystals, ... or are they. Sundogs mean it's cold and going to be colder. If you're from North Dakota sundogs are not something you want to see in January. Or it means something very different and that is a Class A misdemeanor (or is it a Class C felony). Run through that list of trite template solutions, the completely unimaginative, and sunshine on ice crystals which also means a crime (sex in public) and what are you left with? Minnesota - the Gopher State Iowa - the Hawkeye State Nebraska - the Cornhusker State Kansas - the Jayhawk State North Dakota - the Roughrider State The TR Rough Rider Award is the State's highest award. Just ask UND Athletics icons Fido Purpur and Phil Jackson. Yeah, then we could lay further claim to the state. We are already the flagship University, then we would have the state nickname like those others you listed as well. After all, nobody refers to North Dakota as the Bison state. Quote
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