stoneySIOUX Posted June 30, 2015 Posted June 30, 2015 So a freshman coming with zero collegiate goals will replace Murphy on the roster..........who also had zero collegiate goals. Don't see what all the fuss is about here by some with his departure. I agree with you, Oxbow... But, I think it's all about that dreaded, four-letter word that we all seem to see from him down the stretch... potential. I wish him well, but not worried about losing him. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted June 30, 2015 Posted June 30, 2015 Trying to bring this out of the "math with numbers is hard!" weeds, let's go back to: Since the "Guess the Roster" game is closed since Zane left, I'll put my final guess as to what the roster will look like here: Out (3 defensemen): Mattson, Panzarella, J Schmaltz In (3 defensemen): Chartrand, Wolanin, Shaw Out (1 goalie): MacIntyre In (1 goalie): Tomek Out (6 forwards): Pattyn, Gaarder, Parks, MacMillian, O'Donnell, Murphy In (6 forwards): Gornall, Janatuinen, Gardner, Gersich, Wilkie, Boeser That would make 10 freshmen on a 26 man roster and that matches what Brad Berry said when he said recently in an interview that "38% of the team will be freshmen" as 10/26 is 38.46%. Does that roster (we are not going in the math weeds again) look right given what we know right now? Quote
stoneySIOUX Posted June 30, 2015 Posted June 30, 2015 Trying to bring this out of the "math with numbers is hard!" weeds, let's go back to: Does that roster (we are not going in the math weeds again) look right given what we know right now? Yes. Quote
Siouxman Posted June 30, 2015 Posted June 30, 2015 So a freshman coming with zero collegiate goals will replace Murphy on the roster..........who also had zero collegiate goals. Don't see what all the fuss is about here by some with his departure.Good point Oxbow. What causes me a little concern is all of the other things besides scoring goals where Murphy had stepped up his game. He was winning battles in the corner, setting up linemates in front of the net, playing with good positioning. On a team that did not play well in the conference tournament, his good play stood out. He set up goals in the regional in Fargo. Those are things the freshmen will need to learn as they are adjusting to the speed of the college game. We already have a lot of forwards to replace with freshmen. Several of them are going to have to step up very quickly, or other teams will load up on the top lines and the increased production we hope for may not happen. If we were just replacing a couple of forwards, it isn't as much of an issue. While I am hoping for the good, I am also hoping we don't experience an epic Wisconsin type year, ala 2014-15. Only time will tell. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted June 30, 2015 Posted June 30, 2015 Is this list up to date as far as recruits that have announced/been announced? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AoPLTHefMmmTdDdqMmtsYU5lMlEtVFlwRU5XRTNqcFE&usp=sharing#gid=1 Quote
stoneySIOUX Posted June 30, 2015 Posted June 30, 2015 Good point Oxbow. What causes me a little concern is all of the other things besides scoring goals where Murphy had stepped up his game. He was winning battles in the corner, setting up linemates in front of the net, playing with good positioning. On a team that did not play well in the conference tournament, his good play stood out. He set up goals in the regional in Fargo. Those are things the freshmen will need to learn as they are adjusting to the speed of the college game. We already have a lot of forwards to replace with freshmen. Several of them are going to have to step up very quickly, or other teams will load up on the top lines and the increased production we hope for may not happen. If we were just replacing a couple of forwards, it isn't as much of an issue. While I am hoping for the good, I am also hoping we don't experience an epic Wisconsin type year, ala 2014-15. Only time will tell. No no no... Sconnie lost EVERYONE from their 13-14 squad. No way that happens. No. Way. Quote
siouxfan512 Posted June 30, 2015 Posted June 30, 2015 Trying to bring this out of the "math with numbers is hard!" weeds, let's go back to: Does that roster (we are not going in the math weeds again) look right given what we know right now? No, but only because we won't have room for Gaardner, once Austomer Matthews makes his surprise announcement to come to UND next season. Quote
Shawn-O Posted June 30, 2015 Posted June 30, 2015 Trying to bring this out of the "math with numbers is hard!" weeds, let's go back to: Does that roster (we are not going in the math weeds again) look right given what we know right now? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aa8U0nL-KXg Quote
rhenry8439 Posted June 30, 2015 Posted June 30, 2015 So a freshman coming with zero collegiate goals will replace Murphy on the roster..........who also had zero collegiate goals. Don't see what all the fuss is about here by some with his departure. jack eichel is replacing murphy Quote
bigskyvikes Posted July 1, 2015 Posted July 1, 2015 Speaking of, speed of college hockey. I watched the Sioux vs UNO game Sunday night, wow what a slow paced game! After watching almost every NHL playoff game my favorite team looked slow, as did UNO. I was at that game in November, don't remember it that way?? Quote
stoneySIOUX Posted July 6, 2015 Posted July 6, 2015 Ok... so, it's Monday after a long weekend. I need a distraction. I think we all assume Boeser will be the stud freshman this year with maybe Wilkie and Gersich 2 and 2a. Who else will be a quick contributor? I like Janatuinen's numbers? We looking at a Top 6 in him? Tomek time... How about Shaw? Anyone think Gornall is the next Steph Pattyn? Quote
burd Posted July 6, 2015 Posted July 6, 2015 Ok... so, it's Monday after a long weekend. I need a distraction. I think we all assume Boeser will be the stud freshman this year with maybe Wilkie and Gersich 2 and 2a. Who else will be a quick contributor? I like Janatuinen's numbers? We looking at a Top 6 in him? Tomek time... How about Shaw? Anyone think Gornall is the next Steph Pattyn? Tomek brings with him the Slovakian spirit of SPARKY! Wooohoooo! Tomek time indeed! Quote
stoneySIOUX Posted July 6, 2015 Posted July 6, 2015 Tomek brings with him the Slovakian spirit of SPARKY! Wooohoooo! Tomek time indeed! I miss him. Dang crazy girlfriends. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 They're here. http://www.undsports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=13500&ATCLID=210185695 Quote
sioux24/7 Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 Who takes over #7? Hasn't been a goal scored by #7 for us since Kristo. I hope Boeser, Wilkie, or Gersich take it. Quote
scpa0305 Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 Caggiula Schmaltz PoganskiChyzk Johnson BoeserGersich Simonson WilkieJanatuinen St. Clair Olson - More of a top 9 than a true top 6. Gersich and Simo play decent D I believe and that should make up for Wilkie's growing D game. Thompson LaDueAusmus StecherWolanin/Shaw PoolmanTomekJohnson Quote
Oxbow6 Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 Caggiula Schmaltz PoganskiChyzk Johnson BoeserGersich Simonson WilkieJanatuinen St. Clair Olson - More of a top 9 than a true top 6. Gersich and Simo play decent D I believe and that should make up for Wilkie's growing D game. Like these forward line to start the year especially the top line. Pogs has some Malone type edge to him. The 2nd line has some good offensive punch as well. Quote
stoneySIOUX Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 Caggiula Schmaltz PoganskiChyzk Johnson BoeserGersich Simonson WilkieJanatuinen St. Clair Olson - More of a top 9 than a true top 6. Gersich and Simo play decent D I believe and that should make up for Wilkie's growing D game. Thompson LaDueAusmus StecherWolanin/Shaw PoolmanTomekJohnson Like these forward line to start the year especially the top line. Pogs has some Malone type edge to him. The 2nd line has some good offensive punch as well. I like these, too, but I think Boeser HAS to play with Nick. Just too good not to have a pure playmaker with what looks like a pure scorer. So, I flip Pogo and Boeser. Quote
scpa0305 Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 I like these, too, but I think Boeser HAS to play with Nick. Just too good not to have a pure playmaker with what looks like a pure scorer. So, I flip Pogo and Boeser.I definitely thought that too. One thing I have seen from boeser is that in many cases he creates his own opportunities. My thinking is that bubs won't put cags, schmaltz and boeser together. And to oxbows point these are lines to begin the season. I could see gersich or Wilkie move up (or down) depending on how they handle the speed adjustment from juniors. Maybe pogo - schmaltz - boeser Caggs - LJ - chyz My initial goal was to mix up the freshman and veterans Quote
SiouxScore Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 Caggiula-Johnson-Poganski Gersich-Schmaltz-Boeser Chyzk-Simonson-Wilkie Janatuinen/Gardner-St.Clair-Olson Ausmus-Stecher Thompson-LaDue Wolanin/Shaw-Poolman Tomek/Johnson Hrynkiw Quote
scpa0305 Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 Caggiula-Johnson-Poganski Gersich-Schmaltz-Boeser Chyzk-Simonson-Wilkie Janatuinen/Gardner-St.Clair-Olson Ausmus-Stecher Thompson-LaDue Wolanin/Shaw-Poolman Tomek/Johnson Hrynkiw I like these too. i think the Finnish kid would easily beat on Gardner. You never know though. I've read that JJ plays a very responsible game. Quote
stoneySIOUX Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 I definitely thought that too. One thing I have seen from boeser is that in many cases he creates his own opportunities. My thinking is that bubs won't put cags, schmaltz and boeser together. And to oxbows point these are lines to begin the season. I could see gersich or Wilkie move up (or down) depending on how they handle the speed adjustment from juniors. Maybe pogo - schmaltz - boeser Caggs - LJ - chyz My initial goal was to mix up the freshman and veterans But wouldn't that be a good reason to put them together, too? Boeser can create his own AND can get dished to. Quote
scpa0305 Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 But wouldn't that be a good reason to put them together, too? Boeser can create his own AND can get dished to. Right, then maybe move Caggs off that line. That would work too. I typically like spreading the wealth over the top 3 lines. Mixing in some upperclassman. It is typically easier to shut down one line. I also see LJ having a much better year this year than in years past. These top lines must play D too....so I was thinking about it from that point as well. we'll see, it will all depend on boeser's impact. Quote
UNDBIZ Posted July 7, 2015 Posted July 7, 2015 I like these too. i think the Finnish kid would easily beat on Gardner. You never know though. I've read that JJ plays a very responsible game. Gardner is a big guy. Don't know much about him other than that, but he should be able to punish people 'when' he gets in on the 4th line. Quote
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