MafiaMan Posted March 30, 2015 Posted March 30, 2015 Red might be close to 70, but he does know his hockey. He did spend 17 years in the NHL. I don't have a problem with what he said. You're also getting the reporter's spin on it, too. But he's right, how many players go right from college to the NHL. Very few players are ready like Toews and Parise were. You think Shayne Gostisbehere perhaps wishes he'd have come back for his senior year? Quote
farce poobah Posted March 30, 2015 Posted March 30, 2015 Red might be close to 70, but he does know his hockey. He did spend 17 years in the NHL. I don't have a problem with what he said. You're also getting the reporter's spin on it, too. But he's right, how many playes go right from college to the NHL. Very few players are ready like Toews and Parise were. Red seems to get more cranky all the time. I wonder how much of a competitive disadvantage / recruiting disadvantage that's becoming. Coaches are put in an enormous position of trust, and as an athlete I'd like a balanced view from my coach. Maybe there's reasons other than Mel Pearson's departure that Michigan hasn't made the NCAA's in a long time... Quote
geaux_sioux Posted March 30, 2015 Posted March 30, 2015 Link: http://www.mgoblue.com/sports/m-hockey/spec-rel/032615aad.html Very sour grapes. What a bitter old man. He should be spokesman for the NRA. Quote
Goon Posted March 30, 2015 Posted March 30, 2015 You think Shayne Gostisbehere perhaps wishes he'd have come back for his senior year? I don't know? Looks like he's played a grand total of 2 games. Quote
sioux24/7 Posted March 30, 2015 Posted March 30, 2015 I don't know? Looks like he's played a grand total of 2 games. Pretty sure he tore his ACL. Quote
stoneySIOUX Posted March 30, 2015 Posted March 30, 2015 Red might be close to 70, but he does know his hockey. He did spend 17 years in the NHL. I don't have a problem with what he said. You're also getting the reporter's spin on it, too. But he's right, how many playes go right from college to the NHL. Very few players are ready like Toews and Parise were. What spin? Only way to spin a direct quote is with implication. Red made his point very clear. Him having a lot of experience doesn't give him the right to be a jerk. 1 Quote
jk Posted March 30, 2015 Posted March 30, 2015 I don't have much of a problem with anything Red said. 1 Quote
SiouxTupa Posted March 30, 2015 Posted March 30, 2015 What spin? Only way to spin a direct quote is with implication. Red made his point very clear. Him having a lot of experience doesn't give him the right to be a jerk. I was just about to say that. No spin on direct quotes. Red is probably right, but publicly you wish your guy luck and move on. Sour grapes. Quote
scpa0305 Posted March 30, 2015 Posted March 30, 2015 Red might be close to 70, but he does know his hockey. He did spend 17 years in the NHL. I don't have a problem with what he said. You're also getting the reporter's spin on it, too. But he's right, how many playes go right from college to the NHL. Very few players are ready like Toews and Parise were. Guy needs to retire. He's reaching. Quote
cberkas Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Michael Matheson will be leaving BC to sign with Florida. Quote
Goon Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 What spin? Only way to spin a direct quote is with implication. Red made his point very clear. Him having a lot of experience doesn't give him the right to be a jerk. I guess I didn't see it as bad as some did. Granted, it's a different era now. I have been told by some that Red is kind of a grumpy guy. Maybe that's just his demeanor. Quote
burd Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 The Panthers must have needed a person to hand out towels in the locker room.I enjoy hearing folks give Rau sh!t, but you know, I'd have liked to have that guy on my college team. Quote
yzerman19 Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Even Parise didn't go straight to the show...although that was likely lock-out driven. I think Red is frustrated that he just lost a key contributor for his team next year and realizes its going to be tough to return to winning ways. Its the nature of the college hockey landscape. I think that Red is probably correct, but at the same time I agree with the posters here saying you just keep it to yourself. Quote
siouxkid12 Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 You think Shayne Gostisbehere perhaps wishes he'd have come back for his senior year? you are just mad that Union wouldn't let you keep the authentic jersey...... Quote
runaroundsioux Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Red's been around a long time. He knows of what he speaks. Quote
siouxczech29 Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Even Parise didn't go straight to the show...although that was likely lock-out driven. I think Red is frustrated that he just lost a key contributor for his team next year and realizes its going to be tough to return to winning ways. Its the nature of the college hockey landscape. I think that Red is probably correct, but at the same time I agree with the posters here saying you just keep it to yourself. Praise has been on record saying he wishes he'd returned for his junior season...because of the lockout I'm sure Quote
Goon Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Even Parise didn't go straight to the show...although that was likely lock-out driven. I think Red is frustrated that he just lost a key contributor for his team next year and realizes its going to be tough to return to winning ways. Its the nature of the college hockey landscape. I think that Red is probably correct, but at the same time I agree with the posters here saying you just keep it to yourself. He probably would have, if there wasn't a lockout. Quote
UNDBIZ Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Praise has been on record saying he wishes he'd returned for his junior season...because of the lockout I'm sure I remember hearing that by signing right before the lockout he was able to secure a larger signing bonus than he would've been eligible for after the lockout. Not sure if there was truth to it or not though. Quote
cberkas Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Sounds like Stephon Williams will sign with the Islanders. Quote
MoreSiouxForYou Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 I remember hearing that by signing right before the lockout he was able to secure a larger signing bonus than he would've been eligible for after the lockout. Not sure if there was truth to it or not though. Correct. He got in on the old CBA and only the contract he has now makes that money not worth it. ($99mm) Quote
MoreSiouxForYou Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 (edited) I guess I didn't see it as bad as some did. Granted, it's a different era now. I have been told by some that Red is kind of a grumpy guy. Maybe that's just his demeanor. Totally agree. I think Red is just being straighter than many in these boys lives. No one is telling them, many people are lying to them. There was that article in the Star Tribune (I think) a few months back about how many "guys in the know" are out there, telling these parents they need their kid in such and such league or on this team. That leads these parents to be a poor help sometimes as well. If you REALLY have the goods, the money will be there. If one kid ever said, I need to get the cash now, as I can get hurt tomorrow, I totally get that. But that is one of the tactics the Advisors are using to get paid in the interim. If Zane said, "My grandma wanted me to get my degree," Boston would still make an offer after his last game next year. Kristo/Knight/Schmaltz boys, same thing. Guys like Hextall/Gregoire, they need to strike while the iron is hot and get the money. That is where I consider the "offers" we all fear so much. Guys like Finley/Blood/etc. recently, they/we all knew AHL buses were all they were going to see and their support group was lying to them to make them +consider/us worry+ leave early. Also, Please do not use Parise, or Towes as counter points, they are Exceptions. Oshie/Stafford you can sway me either way on their last year, but they still would have been fine if they had finished at UND. Proof is there in the results. Edited March 31, 2015 by MoreSiouxForYou Quote
burd Posted March 31, 2015 Posted March 31, 2015 Pretty hard for college programs to complain about the pros preying on college age kids when colleges are recruiting kids who are still teething. That said, I agree a lot of kids are making a mistake by leaving early. Quote
Chewey Posted April 1, 2015 Posted April 1, 2015 Link: http://www.mgoblue.com/sports/m-hockey/spec-rel/032615aad.html Very sour grapes. I don't know. I think I agree with Red. Add Mike Crowley of the Gophers to the long list of players that left too early only to languish in various minor leagues or in Europe. I think Bryan Lundbohm and Ryan Bayda were two one such Sioux players who did likewise. With Bayda, I think the 2003 team does not lose to Ferris State and makes a serious run at #8. Quote
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