90siouxfan Posted June 22, 2019 Posted June 22, 2019 On 6/22/2019 at 6:08 PM, stoneySIOUX said: They've drafted four of our players in the past 4 years with three in the top 2 rounds. Seems like they trust our program. Expand Is the "they" you are referring to a particular team or the NHL in general? I am reminded of the saying, you are only as good as your last day.... When Snow(?) stated his lack of conviction in the Gopher program's development ability was that good for their program? I don't wear green tinted glasses, I just cheer /pull for the team, players, and prospects. Quote
stoneySIOUX Posted June 22, 2019 Posted June 22, 2019 On 6/22/2019 at 6:17 PM, 90siouxfan said: Is the "they" you are referring to a particular team or the NHL in general? I am reminded of the saying, you are only as good as your last day.... When Snow(?) stated his lack of conviction in the Gopher program's development ability was that good for their program? I don't wear green tinted glasses, I just cheer /pull for the team, players, and prospects. Expand Ottawa, yes. I think seeing three players picked in the top 2 rounds in two years is an indication of trust, not a concern of a potential lack of development. Snow had Okposo and pulled him. One player. Not three in the top 2 rounds in two years. Seeing how Wolanin developed in his three years, the progression of JBD last year and the massive steps of Tychonick in the second half of last year, I'm not sure what would make you think OTT doesn't like the development of it's players at UND. Quote
90siouxfan Posted June 22, 2019 Posted June 22, 2019 On 6/22/2019 at 6:48 PM, stoneySIOUX said: Ottawa, yes. I think seeing three players picked in the top 2 rounds in two years is an indication of trust, not a concern of a potential lack of development. Snow had Okposo and pulled him. One player. Not three in the top 2 rounds in two years. Expand True enough, I have no insight into Ottawa and their opinion of college players, Okposo moving like he did is one thing, but Snow publicly calling out the Gopher program is pretty cringeworthy in my book. Quote
stoneySIOUX Posted June 22, 2019 Posted June 22, 2019 On 6/22/2019 at 6:53 PM, 90siouxfan said: True enough, I have no insight into Ottawa and their opinion of college players, Okposo moving like he did is one thing, but Snow publicly calling out the Gopher program is pretty cringeworthy in my book. Expand Definitely was. Doesn't feel like the case right now with the players OTT has picked from our team. Quote
90siouxfan Posted June 22, 2019 Posted June 22, 2019 On 6/22/2019 at 6:55 PM, stoneySIOUX said: Definitely was. Doesn't feel like the case right now with the players OTT has picked from our team. Expand True, I was not speaking of Ottawa at all, but other programs could make the same statement Mr. Snow made if they did not like what they see. With that said I would prefer UND prospects to go to college route friendly organizations. Even more important that no NHL management teams have any reason to question player development at UND. Quote
stoneySIOUX Posted June 22, 2019 Posted June 22, 2019 On 6/22/2019 at 7:04 PM, 90siouxfan said: True, I was not speaking of Ottawa at all, but other programs could make the same statement Mr. Snow made if they did not like what they see. With that said I would prefer UND prospects to go to college route friendly organizations. Even more important that no NHL management teams have any reason to question player development at UND. Expand Ah, I get ya. I guess I've never really heard anything about NHL management questioning us. I don't really know the entire story about Miller, but we've had like 15 NHL players since then, so I don't feel like it's a big problem. Quote
90siouxfan Posted June 22, 2019 Posted June 22, 2019 On 6/22/2019 at 7:12 PM, stoneySIOUX said: Ah, I get ya. I guess I've never really heard anything about NHL management questioning us. I don't really know the entire story about Miller, but we've had like 15 NHL players since then, so I don't feel like it's a big problem. Expand I am not claiming insight that NHL management harbors any such thoughts, but I do fear that the last few years of "poor development" of prospects will be placed on the program instead of individual players. I also have no idea which train of thought is accurate, but I do believe you can see that recent players have not improved as much as former players improved during their time at UND. Quote
stoneySIOUX Posted June 22, 2019 Posted June 22, 2019 On 6/22/2019 at 7:15 PM, 90siouxfan said: I am not claiming insight that NHL management harbors any such thoughts, but I do fear that the last few years of "poor development" of prospects will be placed on the program instead of individual players. I also have no idea which train of thought is accurate, but I do believe you can see that recent players have not improved as much as former players improved during their time at UND. Expand Which players? You talking guys that are drafted or our roleplayers? Quote
AJS Posted June 22, 2019 Posted June 22, 2019 On 6/18/2019 at 2:16 AM, AJS said: What's everyone's predictions for this weekend? My guesses will be strictly by rounds Pinto (2nd) Blaisdell (3rd) Caulfield (4th) Rowe (5th) Rizzo (5th) Moore (6th) Bast (6th) Not drafted: Scheel, Frisch, Budy Expand Let's hope for a couple in the next 10 picks or else my predictions are going to start to look really bad. Quote
Brett0909 Posted June 22, 2019 Posted June 22, 2019 It is interesting that they called out more NHL discussion around where these kids are going and their development path this year vs. prior, and so many UND recruited players now sliding well below their central projections. Would be interesting to know if UNDs reputation had any impact or if the scouting agencies were just that far off on so many UND recruits. Hopefully get a nice flow of UND recruits in quick succession here! Quote
stoneySIOUX Posted June 22, 2019 Posted June 22, 2019 Donovan goes 110 to VGK. Let the hand wringing begin. Quote
siouxforce19 Posted June 22, 2019 Posted June 22, 2019 Looks like it’s been a run on Euro’s the last rounds. Lot of Russians. 1 Quote
AJS Posted June 22, 2019 Posted June 22, 2019 I'm predicting 4 UND recruits go in the 5th round, try to help salvage this draft. Quote
AlphaMikeFoxtrot Posted June 22, 2019 Posted June 22, 2019 On 6/22/2019 at 7:41 PM, AJS said: I'm predicting 4 UND recruits go in the 5th round, try to help salvage this draft. Expand 2 down Quote
scpa0305 Posted June 22, 2019 Posted June 22, 2019 On 6/22/2019 at 7:41 PM, AJS said: I'm predicting 4 UND recruits go in the 5th round, try to help salvage this draft. Expand Ya hasn’t been very good whatsoever. All are falling outside of pinto Quote
Popular Post SIOUXELEVENS Posted June 22, 2019 Popular Post Posted June 22, 2019 I could care less where their are drafted, give me players who give it all and want to be here, Caggiula wasn’t drafted at all , neither was Stecher. 10 Quote
SiouxFanatic Posted June 22, 2019 Posted June 22, 2019 The season is lost before it even happens. Ugh! 1 Quote
stoneySIOUX Posted June 22, 2019 Posted June 22, 2019 On 6/22/2019 at 8:00 PM, SIOUXELEVENS said: I could care less where their are drafted, give me players who give it all and want to be here, Caggiula wasn’t drafted at all , neither was Stecher. Expand On the plus, sounds like Blaisdell and Pinto are indeed those kinds of players. Quote
Benny Baker Posted June 22, 2019 Posted June 22, 2019 On 6/22/2019 at 8:00 PM, SIOUXELEVENS said: I could care less where their are drafted, give me players who give it all and want to be here, Caggiula wasn’t drafted at all , neither was Stecher. Expand Definitely need those types, but it was also nice to have 2 first rounders on the CBS line. Quote
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