North Dakota @ Montana 9/13/25

[sioux24/7]

1 hour ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

Not that big of a deal. The other two backs (Siedl, Leigh) are just as good. They all three deserve touches. 

Meh Leigh is fine especially catching the ball but Ziebarth is a much better runner. 

[Oxbow6]

Z needs most of the rushing attempts. Seidl struggles off tackle but can break it at any point. Leigh is the best pass catcher of the 3. Really not that complicated in situational FB on who should be in.

[GoodGood]

Can we trust Z not to head butt someone this year? 

[Trueist Hawk]

8 minutes ago, GoodGood said:

Can we trust Z not to head butt someone this year? 

You’re really stuck on a headbutt, aren’t you?

[GoodGood]

4 minutes ago, Trueist Hawk said:

You’re really stuck on a headbutt, aren’t you?

Yes 

[Trueist Hawk]

3 minutes ago, GoodGood said:

Yes 

That was a dumb move. I agree. I think he has more than sat his time for that. I’d rather have someone out there that is dialed up than someone that curls up. SS should not be out there for short yardage or pass blocking. Yes, in comparison AND statistically, Z is our guy.

[UND1983]

3 hours ago, GoodGood said:

Close. Losing programs make losing plays. Someone has to stop the trend 

How profound 

[GoodGood]

1 minute ago, UND1983 said:

How profound 

Hot take!

[Oxbow6]

Herm Edwards just texted me. He's struggling to make an account and log on here. Pretty sure I know what his first post will be though when he does......

[Longtime fan]

4 hours ago, Brim006 said:

Did I expect Schmidt to turn things around with only a spring camp and fall camp? No

Did I expect we’d at least get the most out of the roster that he inherited and finally get rid of the numerous pee wee football level coaching mistakes? Yes 

Unfortunately it’s pretty clear the same loser culture is still lingering if not fully alive within the UND football program. I’ll continue to watch and follow as this season goes on but man did I lose confidence in this turnaround seeing the same old short falls we’re all too familiar with. And scary enough, I think what we saw yesterday was just as bad if not worse than the entire bubba era, with Rudy OC in a close 2nd. Bone head player mistakes are one thing but not recognizing the kicker issue last spring, not having even an ounce of 2 min drill abilities in 2/3 games already and the offense play calling is absurdly poor and embarrassing. That’s on the coaches. They’re showing so far they’re just trying not to lose still, and it’s backfiring as usual. 

I wasn’t a fan of hiring another UND associate to be head coach.  Mentioned that last year before and after his hire.  But I have to give him the benefit of the doubt and roll with it.  
 

It’s an upgrade from bubba but how much ?    3 games in and two losses are directly on him.  Not a great start 
 

After the K st game, even with the bad 4th qtr coaching calls, it seemed as tho things had changed.   Felt different. Doesn’t feel that way anymore.  Feels like every year since 09.  
 

If UND was definitely the better team yesterday why didn’t they win ?  Coaching!  
The two losses fall solely on the coaching staff.   Und WAS the better team in both losses.  But they keep losing in a multiple head scratching ways on the road. 
 

unfortunately… it feels like the losing culture is in place .  
 

Im very frustrated yet excited.  Love football and love und.  I  just want to see a competent coaching staff execute a complete game .  Without a doubt und should be 3-0.  

[HoopsFan03]

3 hours ago, Oxbow6 said:

For the gambling degenerates UND covered the +2.5 so there's that.

Doesn't help when you take UND moneyline 

[Kab]

Renfo had a good game at tight end I thought 

[90siouxfan]

2 hours ago, Oxbow6 said:

Herm Edwards just texted me. He's struggling to make an account and log on here. Pretty sure I know what his first post will be though when he does......

we didn't want him...

[KBH2010]

7 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

exactly...he can be 4 yards back and hes fine correct?

Yes, but you also want to be close to the line in order to speed up the timing of your route. It’s up to the receiver to ask the ref and verify though. No point in guessing, they’ll tell you yes or no.

[SiouxHawkGuy]

Should be a conference game

[Sioux94]

I was only able to follow the game through the thread on here, wasn't able to watch h or listen to it. Definitely frustrating as we shoulda had this one. Understand the....nothings changed sentiment,  but we are a lot better than last year. Herder put us at #8 on his ballot this week for a reason, we looked like the better team. 

D is definitely better, tackles well. So nice having speed at WR! And a QB with an arm and who can run. 

So frustrating that we could be 3-0, but lots of season left. Biggest disappointment is our inability to pound the rock. We have speed at WR, strong arm QB and who can run, but we are completely bottled up...up the middle and I have zero confidence in us picking up 2 yards on the ground when we need it running up the middle. 

[The Sicatoka]

This week's homework:

- kicking game

- mindset ... you could've come close to hangin' 50 on the Griz  .... so why didn't ya? Everybody else is PSU from here out. That's the mindset. 

[MinnDak]

8 hours ago, Sioux94 said:

I was only able to follow the game through the thread on here, wasn't able to watch h or listen to it. Definitely frustrating as we shoulda had this one. Understand the....nothings changed sentiment,  but we are a lot better than last year. Herder put us at #8 on his ballot this week for a reason, we looked like the better team. 

D is definitely better, tackles well. So nice having speed at WR! And a QB with an arm and who can run. 

So frustrating that we could be 3-0, but lots of season left. Biggest disappointment is our inability to pound the rock. We have speed at WR, strong arm QB and who can run, but we are completely bottled up...up the middle and I have zero confidence in us picking up 2 yards on the ground when we need it running up the middle. 

Because the line isn’t very good. But since everyone kept saying over and over they were good it must be true. It’s obvious no one ever watched a game last year. You have the laziest center in college football and 2-3 complete blown blocks every play. There was no communication last game especially on the delayed rush man. Don’t worry Valap this week and Murray State this year will make everyone feel good. 

[airmail]

Our O line is among the best - yet we can't pick up 3 yards when we need it. 

We finally have a QB - yet we were below 50% completion with some game changing wide open opportunities. 

Kicker gives us no confidence. A miss and a doink PAT? Please.

In-game coaching decisions have been odd to say the least. Perhaps we go for it because we have no faith in our kicking? Go back to the top of the list and repeat.

 

I bought into and also hyped up the excitement to start the season, and don't give me bandwagon BS because I've been doing UND football for 30 years and will continue to do it. But I'm pretty pissed that everything has changed but nothing has changed. It seems we find ourselves in a very similar spot that we were a year ago (although we had more wins at this point - including Montana). Hopefully the next week cupcake allows the team to figure their $hit out before we get to the grind. 

I knew this game would paint a good picture of who we are as a team. We're good. We can't finish. We have talent. We make stupid mistakes. We can still be a contender if we get our collecting poop in a group. What are they prepared to do? We'll see....

[Dustin]

20 minutes ago, airmail said:

I knew this game would paint a good picture of who we are as a team. We're good. We can't finish. We have talent. We make stupid mistakes. We can still be a contender if we get our collecting poop in a group. What are they prepared to do? We'll see....

A good summary.

[gundy1124]

25 minutes ago, airmail said:

Our O line is among the best - yet we can't pick up 3 yards when we need it. 

We finally have a QB - yet we were below 50% completion with some game changing wide open opportunities. 

Kicker gives us no confidence. A miss and a doink PAT? Please.

In-game coaching decisions have been odd to say the least. Perhaps we go for it because we have no faith in our kicking? Go back to the top of the list and repeat.

 

I bought into and also hyped up the excitement to start the season, and don't give me bandwagon BS because I've been doing UND football for 30 years and will continue to do it. But I'm pretty pissed that everything has changed but nothing has changed. It seems we find ourselves in a very similar spot that we were a year ago (although we had more wins at this point - including Montana). Hopefully the next week cupcake allows the team to figure their $hit out before we get to the grind. 

I knew this game would paint a good picture of who we are as a team. We're good. We can't finish. We have talent. We make stupid mistakes. We can still be a contender if we get our collecting poop in a group. What are they prepared to do? We'll see....

Results on the field are extremely disappointing but the all important "eye test" has been mostly passed.  Unfortunately the next 6 are almost "must wins" leading up to NDSU.  Valpo, UNI, Youngstown, S. Illinois, Indiana St., USD.   3 of these teams are ranked and 2 others are noted as "receiving votes", so not an easy task.  Valpo is a crappy football program, not sure where this conference belongs, but it's not FCS.

[Oxbow6]

12 minutes ago, gundy1124 said:

Results on the field are extremely disappointing but the all important "eye test" has been mostly passed.  Unfortunately the next 6 are almost "must wins" leading up to NDSU.  Valpo, UNI, Youngstown, S. Illinois, Indiana St., USD.   3 of these teams are ranked and 2 others are noted as "receiving votes", so not an easy task.  Valpo is a crappy football program, not sure where this conference belongs, but it's not FCS.

Have heard these comments before the past few years a couple games into a season.

[UND-FB-FAN]

1 hour ago, airmail said:

I knew this game would paint a good picture of who we are as a team. We're good. We can't finish. We have talent. We make stupid mistakes. We can still be a contender if we get our collecting poop in a group. What are they prepared to do? We'll see....

I’ll take “we’re good” and “we have talent” any day of the week compared to 5-7 last season…. We now need to develop a killer mindset and consistently finish.  We’ll get there. Enjoy the ride on the way to a championship- all the lessons are worth it in the end. 

Let’s Go Hawks 

[gundy1124]

3 hours ago, Oxbow6 said:

Have heard these comments before the past few years a couple games into a season.

Controlling the clock for 37:51 to barely hang vrs Iowa St. (21-3 loss) is much different than trading punches with K State to have a W slip though our fingers.  But yes, yet again, early in the season I threw out a "must win", that part is the same.

[geaux_sioux]

On 9/14/2025 at 2:21 PM, Trueist Hawk said:

He is tiny. 165, soaking wet. Watch him curl up. If anyone is close, he is down. Yeah, if our o-line gets him a nice hole, he does okay and has speed. Z is 40 pounds heavier and they both ran top speed of 20.7. That’s a no brainer to me. If you are satisfied with “just fine” than that says enough for me to take you seriously. 

This is a strange exaggeration. Seidl is explosive and breaks tackles oddly well for his size. I’ve seen him run through guys multiple times. Seidl and Z should split 80% of the RB touches IMO. They can each break a game open.