stoneySIOUX Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 1 hour ago, scpa0305 said: Second youngest on the team only to Jost. Thank you. Not a lot of perspective from most, eh? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 38 minutes ago, stoneySIOUX said: NHL teams don't bail on goalies drafted that high without at least giving him a shot. 90th player drafted isn't high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneySIOUX Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Just now, Cratter said: 90th player drafted that year isn't high. Well, when you only have 10 or so Gs in your pipeline, yeah, yeah it is. I'm not saying he will, I'm just saying he's gonna have a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burd Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 3 hours ago, scpa0305 said: Second youngest on the team only to Jost. Interesting. I didn't realize that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scpa0305 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 1 hour ago, Cratter said: 90th player drafted isn't high. For goalies that's very high. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 4 minutes ago, scpa0305 said: For goalies that's very high. Not for starting NHL goalies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberkas Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 24 minutes ago, Cratter said: Not for starting NHL goalies. Cam Talbot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iluvdebbies Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Ryan Miller 138th overall. Jonathan 72nd overall Ben Bishop 85th overall Matt Murray 83rd overall 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberkas Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 So what is up with that Twenden guy (sp?) that people were high on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 21 minutes ago, iluvdebbies said: Ryan Miller 138th overall. Jonathan 72nd overall Ben Bishop 85th overall Matt Murray 83rd overall Three of those four were drafted higher than Tomek. And the other one on your list, Miller, started every year of his college career let alone was ever third string. I'll save you some work there is plenty of starting goalies drafted lower than Tomek. Most starting goalies in the NHL were not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iluvdebbies Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 1 minute ago, Cratter said: Three of those four were drafted higher than Tomek. And the one on your list started all three years in college let alone was ever third string. I'll say you some work there is plenty of starting goalies drafted lower than Tomek. Most starting goalies in the NHL were not. All four.... third round or later Most.....not so sure about that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberkas Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 4 minutes ago, Cratter said: Three of those four were drafted higher than Tomek. And the other one on your list started all three years in college let alone was ever third string. I'll save you some work there is plenty of starting goalies drafted lower than Tomek. Most starting goalies in the NHL were not. Both of the Sharks goalies were never drafted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 1 minute ago, iluvdebbies said: Most.....not so sure about that. I am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberkas Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 10 minutes ago, Cratter said: Three of those four were drafted higher than Tomek. And the other one on your list, Miller, started every year of his college career let alone was ever third string. I'll save you some work there is plenty of starting goalies drafted lower than Tomek. Most starting goalies in the NHL were not. Miller like Tomek was drafted before he played a game in college. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 2 minutes ago, cberkas said: Miller like Tomek was drafted before he played a game in college. Very true. Miller continued to have an upward projection after getting drafted and his dominant play in college really opened up the possibility of his potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iluvdebbies Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Of the 16 starting goalies from last years playoffs.....the average draft position was 103rd overall(early 4th round). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHE Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 6 hours ago, stoneySIOUX said: I just went through the 2015-16 roster for sh*ts and gigs.... I think we'll see at least 10 from them: Boeser, Drake, Rhett, Gersich, LaDue, Pogo, Tucker, Schmaltz, Stechy, Gage LJ, Cam, Tomek, KT, Wolanin have shots.... maybe even Wilkie, too. Special, special teams. Here's my prediction on NHL futures for the '15-'16 roster.....Tucker will lead the group in career games (I'll guess 918) . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzerman19 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Stafford, Zajac, Oshie and Toews aren't marginal or role player guys either- they've all put up multiple 50 plus point seasons...and Toews of course is as special as they come...I count 724 NHL goals among them to date... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 How many collegiate goalies are out there right now that could leapfrog Cam for the starting job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 1 hour ago, The Sicatoka said: How many collegiate goalies are out there right now that could leapfrog Cam for the starting job? It depends who you ask. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 2 hours ago, The Sicatoka said: How many collegiate goalies are out there right now that could leapfrog Cam for the starting job? When Cam is on and in the zone (see SCSU, UMD last year), there isn't a better goaltender in college hockey. We can all moan about bad goals that he's given up, but find me a game this year that he lost for the team when they completely outplayed the opponent, but his goaltending was the deciding factor. I tried to find a goalie in college hockey that I'd rather have, and the only one that makes the list as a maybe is Jaillet from Denver. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxfan512 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Cratter must know more about Tomek's development and potential than most of us from watching him play so much. I say wait it out. If the kid leaves, he will show his potential or lack there of in the minors. If he stays, then maybe we have a shot to see him next year. He is young, so I'm not sure why they don't redshirt him to extend his eligibility (just in case). Its not like he is sitting behind a couple of slouches. He is behind a older, more experience, national champion goaltender. As for Hyrinkiw, he has more than earned his spot as the back up based on what we saw last season when he was called upon. Also, not as though Tomek is just warming the bench and handing out water bottles. He is getting valuable practice time on one of the best teams in the country, and learning from Goehring who's contribution cannot be overlooked. Hopefully Tomek see the value in what he is getting, and sticks it out. If he were the kind of guy that thinks the job should just be handed to him based on his precollege hype or draft status, then by all means, walk away and see how you do in the pros. There is a reason that even guys like Oshie, Boeser, Parise, etc played more than 1 season in college. It is valuable experience and development. I'm not sure anyone other than the coaches are in a position to say that Tomek is a bust, or that he has the makings to be a star. Its all potential and what ifs, until he gets some consistent ice time. Throw him out there before he is ready and he may look as bad as Cam did his first time on the ice, and look how that turned around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzerman19 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 1 hour ago, siouxfan512 said: Cratter must know more about Tomek's development and potential than most of us from watching him play so much. I say wait it out. If the kid leaves, he will show his potential or lack there of in the minors. If he stays, then maybe we have a shot to see him next year. He is young, so I'm not sure why they don't redshirt him to extend his eligibility (just in case). Its not like he is sitting behind a couple of slouches. He is behind a older, more experience, national champion goaltender. As for Hyrinkiw, he has more than earned his spot as the back up based on what we saw last season when he was called upon. Also, not as though Tomek is just warming the bench and handing out water bottles. He is getting valuable practice time on one of the best teams in the country, and learning from Goehring who's contribution cannot be overlooked. Hopefully Tomek see the value in what he is getting, and sticks it out. If he were the kind of guy that thinks the job should just be handed to him based on his precollege hype or draft status, then by all means, walk away and see how you do in the pros. There is a reason that even guys like Oshie, Boeser, Parise, etc played more than 1 season in college. It is valuable experience and development. I'm not sure anyone other than the coaches are in a position to say that Tomek is a bust, or that he has the makings to be a star. Its all potential and what ifs, until he gets some consistent ice time. Throw him out there before he is ready and he may look as bad as Cam did his first time on the ice, and look how that turned around. If I were Tomek, I'd be on my way to the CHL...gotta play... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxforce19 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 15 minutes ago, yzerman19 said: If I were Tomek, I'd be on my way to the CHL...gotta play... Pretty sure he can't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scpa0305 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Aapeli Rasanen (Sioux City) hopefully Berry is in full court press on this kid. He'll probably play for Finland's U20 team this WJC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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