Prospective Recruits

[stoneySIOUX]

1 hour ago, scpa0305 said:

Second youngest on the team only to Jost.

Thank you. Not a lot of perspective from most, eh?

[Cratter]

38 minutes ago, stoneySIOUX said:

 NHL teams don't bail on goalies drafted that high without at least giving him a shot. 

90th player drafted isn't high.

[stoneySIOUX]

Just now, Cratter said:

90th player drafted that year isn't high.

Well, when you only have 10 or so Gs in your pipeline, yeah, yeah it is. I'm not saying he will, I'm just saying he's gonna have a shot.

[burd]

3 hours ago, scpa0305 said:

Second youngest on the team only to Jost.

Interesting.  I didn't realize that. 

[scpa0305]

1 hour ago, Cratter said:

90th player drafted isn't high.

For goalies that's very high.

[Cratter]

4 minutes ago, scpa0305 said:

For goalies that's very high.

Not for starting NHL goalies.

[cberkas]

24 minutes ago, Cratter said:

Not for starting NHL goalies.

Cam Talbot

[iluvdebbies]

Ryan Miller 138th overall.

Jonathan 72nd overall

Ben Bishop 85th overall

Matt Murray 83rd overall

 

[cberkas]

So what is up with that Twenden guy (sp?) that people were high on?

[Cratter]

21 minutes ago, iluvdebbies said:

Ryan Miller 138th overall.

Jonathan 72nd overall

Ben Bishop 85th overall

Matt Murray 83rd overall

 

Three of those four were drafted higher than Tomek.

And the other one on your list, Miller, started every year of his college career let alone was ever third string.

I'll save you some work there is plenty of starting goalies drafted lower than Tomek. Most starting goalies in the NHL were not.

[iluvdebbies]

1 minute ago, Cratter said:

Three of those four were drafted higher than Tomek.

And the one on your list started all three years in college let alone was ever third string.

I'll say you some work there is plenty of starting goalies drafted lower than Tomek. Most starting goalies in the NHL were not.

All four.... third round or later  Most.....not so sure about that.

[cberkas]

4 minutes ago, Cratter said:

Three of those four were drafted higher than Tomek.

And the other one on your list started all three years in college let alone was ever third string.

I'll save you some work there is plenty of starting goalies drafted lower than Tomek. Most starting goalies in the NHL were not.

Both of the Sharks goalies were never drafted.

[Cratter]

1 minute ago, iluvdebbies said:

Most.....not so sure about that.

I am.

[cberkas]

10 minutes ago, Cratter said:

Three of those four were drafted higher than Tomek.

And the other one on your list, Miller, started every year of his college career let alone was ever third string.

I'll save you some work there is plenty of starting goalies drafted lower than Tomek. Most starting goalies in the NHL were not.

Miller like Tomek was drafted before he played a game in college.

[Cratter]

2 minutes ago, cberkas said:

Miller like Tomek was drafted before he played a game in college.

Very true. Miller continued to have an upward projection after getting drafted and his dominant play in college really opened up the possibility of his potential.

[iluvdebbies]

Of the 16 starting goalies from last years playoffs.....the average draft position was 103rd overall(early 4th round).

[PHE]

6 hours ago, stoneySIOUX said:

I just went through the 2015-16 roster for sh*ts and gigs.... I think we'll see at least 10 from them:

Boeser, Drake, Rhett, Gersich, LaDue, Pogo, Tucker, Schmaltz, Stechy, Gage

LJ, Cam, Tomek, KT, Wolanin have shots.... maybe even Wilkie, too. 

Special, special teams.

Here's my prediction on NHL futures for the '15-'16 roster.....Tucker will lead the group in career games (I'll guess 918) .

[yzerman19]

Stafford, Zajac, Oshie and Toews aren't marginal or role player guys either- they've all put up multiple 50 plus point seasons...and Toews of course is as special as they come...I count 724 NHL goals among them to date...

[The Sicatoka]

How many collegiate goalies are out there right now that could leapfrog Cam for the starting job? 

[Goon]

1 hour ago, The Sicatoka said:

How many collegiate goalies are out there right now that could leapfrog Cam for the starting job? 

It depends who you ask. 

[Wilbur]

2 hours ago, The Sicatoka said:

How many collegiate goalies are out there right now that could leapfrog Cam for the starting job? 

When Cam is on and in the zone (see SCSU, UMD last year), there isn't a better goaltender in college hockey.  We can all moan about bad goals that he's given up, but find me a game this year that he lost for the team when they completely outplayed the opponent, but his goaltending was the deciding factor.

I tried to find a goalie in college hockey that I'd rather have, and the only one that makes the list as a maybe is Jaillet from Denver.  

[siouxfan512]

Cratter must know more about Tomek's development and potential than most of us from watching him play so much.

I say wait it out. If the kid leaves, he will show his potential or lack there of in the minors. If he stays, then maybe we have a shot to see him next year. He is young, so I'm not sure why they don't redshirt him to extend his eligibility (just in case). Its not like he is sitting behind a couple of slouches. He is behind a older, more experience, national champion goaltender. As for Hyrinkiw, he has more than earned his spot as the back up based on what we saw last season when he was called upon.

Also, not as though Tomek is just warming the bench and handing out water bottles. He is getting valuable practice time on one of the best teams in the country, and learning from Goehring who's contribution cannot be overlooked. Hopefully Tomek see the value in what he is getting, and sticks it out. If he were the kind of guy that thinks the job should just be handed to him based on his precollege hype or draft status, then by all means, walk away and see how you do in the pros.

There is a reason that even guys like Oshie, Boeser, Parise, etc played more than 1 season in college. It is valuable experience and development. I'm not sure anyone other than the coaches are in a position to say that Tomek is a bust, or that he has the makings to be a star. Its all potential and what ifs, until he gets some consistent ice time. Throw him out there before he is ready and he may look as bad as Cam did his first time on the ice, and look how that turned around.

[yzerman19]

1 hour ago, siouxfan512 said:

Cratter must know more about Tomek's development and potential than most of us from watching him play so much.

I say wait it out. If the kid leaves, he will show his potential or lack there of in the minors. If he stays, then maybe we have a shot to see him next year. He is young, so I'm not sure why they don't redshirt him to extend his eligibility (just in case). Its not like he is sitting behind a couple of slouches. He is behind a older, more experience, national champion goaltender. As for Hyrinkiw, he has more than earned his spot as the back up based on what we saw last season when he was called upon.

Also, not as though Tomek is just warming the bench and handing out water bottles. He is getting valuable practice time on one of the best teams in the country, and learning from Goehring who's contribution cannot be overlooked. Hopefully Tomek see the value in what he is getting, and sticks it out. If he were the kind of guy that thinks the job should just be handed to him based on his precollege hype or draft status, then by all means, walk away and see how you do in the pros.

There is a reason that even guys like Oshie, Boeser, Parise, etc played more than 1 season in college. It is valuable experience and development. I'm not sure anyone other than the coaches are in a position to say that Tomek is a bust, or that he has the makings to be a star. Its all potential and what ifs, until he gets some consistent ice time. Throw him out there before he is ready and he may look as bad as Cam did his first time on the ice, and look how that turned around.

If I were Tomek, I'd be on my way to the CHL...gotta play...

[siouxforce19]

15 minutes ago, yzerman19 said:

If I were Tomek, I'd be on my way to the CHL...gotta play...

Pretty sure he can't. 

[scpa0305]

Aapeli Rasanen (Sioux City) hopefully Berry is in full court press on this kid.  He'll probably play for Finland's U20 team this WJC.