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1 minute ago, Benny Baker said:

Who called for Berry’s head on Siouxsports.com tonight? I honestly haven’t seen a thing. Complaints about the jersey they wore, sure, but that’s about it. . . .

I’ve seen it elsewhere tonight unfortunately. Not here. 

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4 minutes ago, cowboys5xsbs said:

I miss having a coach who could make adjustments and have us playing our best Hockey on Saturdays.  Sorry Berry will never be that guy.  

This is our second series this season. Could we at least try to have some patience with this team? 

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3 minutes ago, siouxforce19 said:

This is our second series this season. Could we at least try to have some patience with this team? 

I thought it was a very good weekend for UND. Way better play than I anticipated over the course of two games. They wore BU out for multiple long stretches both nights.

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15 minutes ago, Benny Baker said:

Who called for Berry’s head on Siouxsports.com tonight? I honestly haven’t seen a thing. Complaints about the jersey they wore, sure, but that’s about it. . . .

Sick jersey except for the NODAK script.  Just awful. As if someone used a Paint program from the early 2000s. 

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23 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

I thought it was a very good weekend for UND. Way better play than I anticipated over the course of two games. They wore BU out for multiple long stretches both nights.

Coming in we all would have taken a split. After what I saw the last two games a split seems a little bit disappointing. Not a bad weekend overall. 

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9 hours ago, sioux rube said:

This week. Work on breakaways ;)

File this with all those other hockey things I don't know, but wouldn't a former goalie have good insight on what to do to beat a goalie on a breakaway?

What I'm saying is, "Wilbur, make sure you get travel time."

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10 hours ago, hockeytherapy13 said:

TJ was too good last night to change. 

Hobie was solid in Mankato, no reason why he couldn't have started once this weekend. TJ has demonstrated that he may have very good nights, but he's prone to lapses like most goalies who aren't named Matt Davis. There's no proof at this point that he's clearly better than Hedquist & that he should be the main goalie.

Besides, at some point, the team would be wise to develop their recruited talent & not have to consistently rely on senior transfers; which hasn't gotten us anywhere near postseason success since the portal opened. Time for Hobie to get some regular starts to prepare him for the #1 role next year; plus, he could be a flight risk after this season if he's not getting consistent starts. Rotate now, assign number #1 to the hot one in March & ride him all the way to #9.

 

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8 hours ago, .357 said:

Hobie was solid in Mankato, no reason why he couldn't have started once this weekend. TJ has demonstrated that he may have very good nights, but he's prone to lapses like most goalies who aren't named Matt Davis. There's no proof at this point that he's clearly better than Hedquist & that he should be the main goalie.

Besides, at some point, the team would be wise to develop their recruited talent & not have to consistently rely on senior transfers; which hasn't gotten us anywhere near postseason success since the portal opened. Time for Hobie to get some regular starts to prepare him for the #1 role next year; plus, he could be a flight risk after this season if he's not getting consistent starts. Rotate now, assign number #1 to the hot one in March & ride him all the way to #9.

 

I don't mind starting TJ, but you are right.  Gotta get Hobie in the net.  And at some point portal goalie has to stop.

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21 hours ago, siouxforce19 said:

People are going to call for Berry’s head after every loss. It’s pathetic and embarrassing. 

I am not in that camp to call for a firing after every loss.  I like the potential of this team!

It is going to take some time and we are going to have some growing pains.

We see this almost every year.  Too much individual play from guys that are either trying to stay in the lineup or move up. Once things settle I think this group will be fine.  

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22 hours ago, siouxforce19 said:

People are going to call for Berry’s head after every loss. It’s pathetic and embarrassing. 

 

It's not always about individual losses.  A split with BU is fine.  It's about the eight years (going on nine) of playoff misery and no results (if we even make the tournament).  That leads to people magnifying smaller issues over time.  Virtually no one called for Berry to be fired a couple years after the title when we missed the tourney for the first time in many years because, hey, we won the big one recently.  2016 was a long time ago now and to only have one NCAA win since is awful for a program like the University of North Dakota.  This is UND men's hockey, not UND men's golf....the standards are different...or at least should be.

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31 minutes ago, Big A HG said:

This is UND men's hockey, not UND men's golf....the standards are different...or at least should be.

Which makes me wonder what the standard is for the hockey program. Don't know what's discussed behind closed doors, but am assuming that Berry's track record of doing well in the regular season is the main (or only) criterion the AD is monitoring. 

 

44 minutes ago, SiouxFanSince1990 said:

If only Berry could keep them motivated.

If they're clicking on all cylinders, like we saw this weekend, they're very difficult to beat. It shouldn't matter who's put before them (DU, BC, MN, etc.), if they can replicate this energy in March & April, I like our chances to go deep. It's those times when the team disappears for large chunks of time which is concerning & frustrating. Keeping them motivated & learning will be Berry's main focus.

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3 hours ago, Clark17 said:

Thought they played decent this weekend - its early.  Mankato, Augie, n Providence are all decent teams - we are ok. 

Doesn't get any easier the next three weekends either.
I could see a split the next three weeks against Cornell, UMD, and DU.

Cornell is a big, heavy, experienced team like Mankato.  We won't get nearly as many scoring chances as we did against BU.  Time and space on the ice will have to be earned.  Some really really good UND teams have failed to sweep Duluth in Duluth, even if our skill level is superior IMO.  And then DU will be a really tough series...they're playing lights out early this season.

Going 3-3 in those 6 games doesn't seem awesome, for sure.  But then the next three weekends are Robert Morris, BSU, and Miami.  I would hope for a 5-1 record at worst in those 6 games.

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9 hours ago, brianvf said:

But then the next three weekends are Robert Morris, BSU, and Miami.  I would hope for a 5-1 record at worst in those 6 games.

Even just 1 loss against any of those 3 teams will probably put a big dent in our PWR. Cracking the top 4 for a #1 seed in the playoffs might be a tough task this year, considering how strong DU, BC, BU, MN & MSU appear to be. 

A question for those good with numbers/scenarios: Would a split with DU & a sweep of Robert Morris be better for our PWR than a sweep of DU & a split with Robert Morris? (provided that DU finishes near the top this year & Robert Morris near the bottom)

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8 minutes ago, .357 said:

Even just 1 loss against any of those 3 teams will probably put a big dent in our PWR. Cracking the top 4 for a #1 seed in the playoffs might be a tough task this year, considering how strong DU, BC, BU, MN & MSU appear to be. 

A question for those good with numbers/scenarios: Would a split with DU & a sweep of Robert Morris be better for our PWR than a sweep of DU & a split with Robert Morris? (provided that DU finishes near the top this year & Robert Morris near the bottom)

I think we get clean sweeps of all three of those teams.

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5 minutes ago, .357 said:

Even just 1 loss against any of those 3 teams will probably put a big dent in our PWR. Cracking the top 4 for a #1 seed in the playoffs might be a tough task this year, considering how strong DU, BC, BU, MN & MSU appear to be. 

A question for those good with numbers/scenarios: Would a split with DU & a sweep of Robert Morris be better for our PWR than a sweep of DU & a split with Robert Morris? (provided that DU finishes near the top this year & Robert Morris near the bottom)

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1 hour ago, .357 said:

Even just 1 loss against any of those 3 teams will probably put a big dent in our PWR. Cracking the top 4 for a #1 seed in the playoffs might be a tough task this year, considering how strong DU, BC, BU, MN & MSU appear to be. 

A question for those good with numbers/scenarios: Would a split with DU & a sweep of Robert Morris be better for our PWR than a sweep of DU & a split with Robert Morris? (provided that DU finishes near the top this year & Robert Morris near the bottom)

This is a great question that I've seen answered quite a bit by Adam Wodon (CHN) and Jim Connelly (USCHO) who give the same answers every time. Bad losses hurt more than good wins help. 

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