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UND @ NDSU 10/5/24


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2 hours ago, Sioux95 said:

Take out the wins over teams like Idaho State, ISU Blue, Northern Colorado, and Murray State and you get down to probably 1 or 2 wins.  Off the top of my head, Portland State is the only road win I can remember over a team that finished above 500.

On the bright side, if bubba won today there is no telling how long Chavez would have extended him for.

Why isn't there more pressure on Chaves to demand excellence in our programs?

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The game went the way. I expected  with opening drives where we came out with standard run up the middle for first two plays setting up Bison defense having to just fill the gaps to stop us and then playing a good pass defense keep everyone in front of them denying  pass 7 to 9 yards. I don’t  know why we didn’t come out with Romfo rolling out with pass option and if not with running ball or option  to back to run the ball.  This would have spread SU defense and it would have been something they would have not been totally prepared. Second we hit Quincy for nice gain but never came back to our tight ends and this has been happening all year. I still think we need another option at receiver like Deng to help Bo and Dennis get open. Even if he doesn’t get open his speed and size would require defense have to cover him and if they don’t he could be wide open for deep threat. Und reasons for loosing on the road so much is we put together game plan only plays to our strengths but is predictable and teams prepare for to stop. This is Bubbas down fall he needs to take some risk on the road especially when he is playing top valley conference this is why we only have road wins bottom of the conference.  I  can think of several games like this like USD game last year where we got up but played so conservative where we final lost game with not doing anything second half. Bubba likes to play percentages if controll the ball and don’t make any mistakes you should win the game. It’s. Like the NFL when teams go into prevent defense and teams start moving ball game gets close and they loose instead of what got them lead and be in position of winning game easily.  This has been UND’s weakenes and I believe Bubba believes if he took higher risks would maybe lead to his dismissal instead he maintains consistent record year after year but will he ever climb mountain  that is big question. SDSU coach steglemeier finally put together team that won it all both of them come from same school of thought  and retired after that both him and Bubba built programs from ground up and also worked on facilities and getting support for the programs.

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8 hours ago, SiouxFan100 said:

Postgame

 

Nice guy, but you know what they say about nice guys (hint: they don’t finish first).

And about there not being a mental hurdle in Fargodome (his response to Tom Miller’s question), well, the response tells me all I need to know. It’s clearly there, and at this point it’s just being deflected. Mediocre expectations equal mediocre results. Players and coaches need to have their jobs on the line, but that is not the case due to an abundance of contentment here at UND with football. 

On to UNI.

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7 hours ago, Irish said:

Why isn't there more pressure on Chaves to demand excellence in our programs?

This is a valid point. 

How many Conference or National Titles have happened on his watch. 

He's at fault here.

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48 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

Nice guy, but you know what they say about nice guys (hint: they don’t finish first).

And about there not being a mental hurdle in Fargodome (his response to Tom Miller’s question), well, the response tells me all I need to know. It’s clearly there, and at this point it’s just being deflected. Mediocre expectations equal mediocre results. Players and coaches need to have their jobs on the line, but that is not the case due to an abundance of contentment here at UND with football. 

On to UNI.

But the 2nd choice for UND coach when bubba got the job lost a game yesterday too :D

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As some have mentioned, the game went as many had feared.  Couldn't match them physically at the line of scrimmage and our offense isn't dynamic enough to move the ball consistently against good teams.  A QB like Miller is going to pick you apart if he can just stand in pocket forever, and that's what happened.  Our offense feels like a HS offense a bit where the passing game is so inefficient and relies on hitting a random big play or two.  Going to be difficult against the better valley teams with that style.  We got ragdolled a lot out there on both sides of the ball.  Sure hope Smith isn't out long term.  

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32 minutes ago, Devils said:

As some have mentioned, the game went as many had feared.  Couldn't match them physically at the line of scrimmage and our offense isn't dynamic enough to move the ball consistently against good teams.  A QB like Miller is going to pick you apart if he can just stand in pocket forever, and that's what happened.  Our offense feels like a HS offense a bit where the passing game is so inefficient and relies on hitting a random big play or two.  Going to be difficult against the better valley teams with that style.  We got ragdolled a lot out there on both sides of the ball.  Sure hope Smith isn't out long term.  

So I’m not the only one here that watched the game. Good. 

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4 hours ago, Devils said:

  Our offense feels like a HS offense a bit where the passing game is so inefficient and relies on hitting a random big play or two.  

This. But yet we are suppose to sit around and wait until our QB gets more games under his belt as a starter. I'd rather put Jerry in now, let him learn, he will take a few lumps yes....but I'd rather see the future who has a high ceiling....than already be at the rooftop of a one story house. 

Same goes for Kai....and probably Deng. 

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17 minutes ago, Sioux94 said:

This. But yet we are suppose to sit around and wait until our QB gets more games under his belt as a starter. I'd rather put Jerry in now, let him learn, he will take a few lumps yes....but I'd rather see the future who has a high ceiling....than already be at the rooftop of a one story house. 

Same goes for Kai....and probably Deng. 

I’m starting to align to this a bit.  NDSU safety’s had zero respect for a passing game yesterday and I’m not sure experience changes that.  

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2 hours ago, Sioux94 said:

This. But yet we are suppose to sit around and wait until our QB gets more games under his belt as a starter. I'd rather put Jerry in now, let him learn, he will take a few lumps yes....but I'd rather see the future who has a high ceiling....than already be at the rooftop of a one story house. 

Same goes for Kai....and probably Deng. 

Finally someone gets it!!
 

He is not magically going to learn how to throw a football. Get Jerry in and let’s show some passing threat! 

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39 minutes ago, HoopsFan03 said:

Finally someone gets it!!
 

He is not magically going to learn how to throw a football. Get Jerry in and let’s show some passing threat! 

it is a bit weird that he forgot how to throw a football from HS and fall camp....

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On 9/29/2024 at 4:21 PM, siouxweet said:

Controlling the clock will not be a problem SUs defense is absolutely abysmal.   They can't stop anything and haven't all year.   Yesterday was an aberration.  They give up huge plays like giving out candy on Halloween.   The ONLY thing that will prevent us from winning is turnovers..

This obviously didn't age well.   Still not convinced SU has a good defense.  They look good when they play a team that has no QB.  UND does not have a QB.  Simon is a nice story but he is not a D1 QB.  He is a band aid to whatever UND wants to do next year at QB.

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2 minutes ago, siouxweet said:

This obviously didn't age well.   Still not convinced SU has a good defense.  They look good when they play a team that has no QB.  UND does not have a QB.  Simon is a nice story but he is not a D1 QB.  He is a band aid to whatever UND wants to do next year at QB.

if simon is starting now...he'll be the starter next year too.......this is mind boggling.

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