2024 UND Football

[Kab]

Time to get rid of fbs games

you try get to 7 wins with a loss before you start the season 

[AJS]

10 hours ago, geaux_sioux said:

We should no joke bring in 6 transfers to try out in spring ball at safety. Mix d2, fcs, FBS, and JUCO guys. Same for OLB. Bring in dudes and a few will stick. Then actually recruit athletes for those spots. Our roster is pathetic right now in a few locations and it was so glaring today.

This is also the only thing I can think of that could potentially fix the defense. Your base going into the offseason should be 1 or 2 leftovers @ S / OLB. Rest all portal. Bring in 2/3 on D-line too from the portal. I’m ok w/ MLB / CB position. 
 

[AJS]

Last first thoughts before the offseason really starts going. The offense if a few things fall into place should be solid. My biggest hope is the OC really takes a step back and clears his head. Starts fresh next year. Defensively, going to take a really difficult approach. Guys that played this year that get asked to enter the portal. OLB / S need to be mostly new faces. D-Line needs to be improved as well. Hit the portal hard on defense.

Edit: I actually don’t think Safety was one of the worst positional groups on defense this year, but they do lose their two best. 

[Midwestern Hawk]

IMO, without major scheme and adjustment changes in the offseason, this defense isn't going to be much different. No idea why it took until halftime to make any adjustments yesterday.  It would be great to pickup some good players with good attitudes in the portal, but if you think that is going to amount to more than 2-3 players across the board, IMO you are dreaming.

Its as though Bubba and Co had never played a QB who could run and pass.  Just flat ass weird.

[Kab]

12 minutes ago, Midwestern Hawk said:

IMO, without major scheme and adjustment changes in the offseason, this defense isn't going to be much different. No idea why it took until halftime to make any adjustments yesterday.  It would be great to pickup some good players with good attitudes in the portal, but if you think that is going to amount to more than 2-3 players across the board, IMO you are dreaming.

Its as though Bubba and Co had never played a QB who could run and pass.  Just flat ass weird.

Opposing coaches scout our tendencies, that’s why they took the ball first

they knew they could score on us and put us on our heels the whole game 

[geaux_sioux]

 

[Midwestern Hawk]

54 minutes ago, AJS said:

This is also the only thing I can think of that could potentially fix the defense. Your base going into the offseason should be 1 or 2 leftovers @ S / OLB. Rest all portal. Bring in 2/3 on D-line too from the portal. I’m ok w/ MLB / CB position. 
 

Watching the game again yesterday, the ILB's are small and getting manhandled too.

[Sweethockey]

Can you get a replacement coaching staff out of the portal? Asking for a friend…..

[Wilbur]

16 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

 

Still one of my favorite players all time at UND.  Loved watching him play old school physical CB.

I'm sure he's not the only former defensive player that has issues with the state of the program. 

[gfhockey]

4 hours ago, Kab said:

Time to get rid of fbs games

you try get to 7 wins with a loss before you start the season 

Going to need them now with how much we lost on that playoff game yesterday

[Parkers Pros]

I agree with the sentiment of an open QB competition regardless. We are set at RB and I like overall the steps our O-line has taken. We need to figure out how to use our offensive specialists better.  Red Wilson was a weapon we underutilized. If he comes back and we have that Tai kid coming to either take his spot or have both, we need to get the ball in their hands.  I agree with the comments about the Klein kid but he and the rest of our WR’s minus Bo need to step up. Doesn’t matter who the QB is if you can’t get separation. 
 

Defensively we are just not getting enough pressure. We truly haven’t had any dominant outside linebackers since we had Jackson Turner and Ray Haas. And in those days, we had Noah Larson at 240 to 250 pounds in the middle who could run and thump people.So you had one bigger guy, and the other guy was more like our current guys are at about 230 to 235 pounds. So defensively, we have a lot of work to do from a development and recruiting side. I feel like we need to maintain our size at the nose tackle position, try to find another griffin to put into the rotation. Get bigger at MLB.  Our DE should be around 280 pounds. A guy like McNabo should be an outside linebacker at his size. He just maybe doesn’t have the feet to be able to do that. Overall I felt our safeties and D-backs were OK but I think any major weaknesses was more of a byproduct of our lack of pressure and needing to bring extra people all the time to get pressure leaving them vulnerable.

[ND1]

5 hours ago, Kab said:

Time to get rid of fbs games

you try get to 7 wins with a loss before you start the season 

Good or bad these help fund the program… roughly 500k per game now.  

[UND-FB-FAN]

2 hours ago, AJS said:

This is also the only thing I can think of that could potentially fix the defense.

New coaches. New ideas. New voices. New philosophies. 

Joel Schwenzfeier has no business being defensive coordinator. Bubba Schweigert has no business being head coach still after putting UND through 3-8 (2017) and 5-6 (2021) seasons … should have been relieved of his duties by athletic administration years ago if there was any foresight at all.

[UND-FB-FAN]

46 minutes ago, ND1 said:

Good or bad these help fund the program… roughly 500k per game now.  

Team always goes into them with no expectation to win. Pathetic leadership. 

[homer]

3 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

Team always goes into them with no expectation to win. Pathetic leadership. 

I don’t think that true.   That may be your assumption but I truly believe the team expects to win.  

[forksandspoons]

My asks for 2024:

- Run the ball more, no matter who the QB is, and the offense will be improved 

- less screens 

- need another big NG transfer, DE transfer, safety transfer, and at least two LB transfers; hopefully get some FBS athleticism in the LB group

- at least disguise it a bit if you’re going to send 7 on every third and long 

[Longtime fan]

Talked with a couple former players.  They were extremely upset with bubba and Danny.   They didn’t hold back.  I’m sure there are numerous players on this years team that feel the same way with coaching. 
 

Schmitty would be the only und connection that I would personally be ok with for next man up.  Not perfect but he doesn’t fit the bubba mold.  He is extremely to the point and an intense motivator.  Now having a resume of experience in the fbs winning column he brings that formula.   He is smart and knows football.  I think he could excel with the right personal.  Just my .02.  But since und doesn’t have the monetary ability to hire anything more than a high school gym teacher I’m not sure in the options for next man up. 

[SiouxHawkGuy]

6 hours ago, Kab said:

Time to get rid of fbs games

you try get to 7 wins with a loss before you start the season 

Only 1 out of 12 next year with 7 home games. Would be a great opportunity for a new coaching staff. 

[geaux_sioux]

14 minutes ago, Longtime fan said:

Talked with a couple former players.  They were extremely upset with bubba and Danny.   They didn’t hold back.  I’m sure there are numerous players on this years team that feel the same way with coaching. 
 

Schmitty would be the only und connection that I would personally be ok with for next man up.  Not perfect but he doesn’t fit the bubba mold.  He is extremely to the point and an intense motivator.  Now having a resume of experience in the fbs winning column he brings that formula.   He is smart and knows football.  I think he could excel with the right personal.  Just my .02.  But since und doesn’t have the monetary ability to hire anything more than a high school gym teacher I’m not sure in the options for next man up. 

If I’m Schmidty I’m staying hitched with DeBoer. No question. Wouldn’t even consider the HC job at UND.

[gfhockey]

9 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

If I’m Schmidty I’m staying hitched with DeBoer. No question. Wouldn’t even consider the HC job at UND.

Agreed

[UND-FB-FAN]

40 minutes ago, homer said:

I don’t think that true.   That may be your assumption but I truly believe the team expects to win.  

Unfortunately, I don’t believe this to be true based on inside sources. There’s far more complacency within the program than folks would like to believe. “Leaders” are far too comfortable right now. No pressure, and as such, limited success. 

[UND-FB-FAN]

42 minutes ago, forksandspoons said:

My asks for 2024:

- Run the ball more, no matter who the QB is, and the offense will be improved 

- less screens 

- need another big NG transfer, DE transfer, safety transfer, and at least two LB transfers; hopefully get some FBS athleticism in the LB group

- at least disguise it a bit if you’re going to send 7 on every third and long 

At this point we just need to reflect and somehow come to the realization that 7-4 and no playoff wins is the current perennial reality. It has been, and will continue to be, a hard pill to swallow. Come next fall I’m sure the rinse and repeat of excitement and disappointment will reoccur. 

[UND-FB-FAN]

33 minutes ago, Longtime fan said:

Talked with a couple former players.  They were extremely upset with bubba and Danny.   They didn’t hold back.  I’m sure there are numerous players on this years team that feel the same way with coaching. 
 

Schmitty would be the only und connection that I would personally be ok with for next man up.  Not perfect but he doesn’t fit the bubba mold.  He is extremely to the point and an intense motivator.  Now having a resume of experience in the fbs winning column he brings that formula.   He is smart and knows football.  I think he could excel with the right personal.  Just my .02.  But since und doesn’t have the monetary ability to hire anything more than a high school gym teacher I’m not sure in the options for next man up. 

Schmitty would be considerable, but my guess is he’s not leaving Washington and that good situation, unless Chaves opens up the damn pocketbook in a way never before done at UND.

[gfhockey]

13 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

Schmitty would be considerable, but my guess is he’s not leaving Washington and that good situation, unless Chaves opens up the damn pocketbook in a way never before done at UND.

What coach has hired that has done good just wondering I would rather have a new ad hire the coach

[Longtime fan]

28 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

If I’m Schmidty I’m staying hitched with DeBoer. No question. Wouldn’t even consider the HC job at UND.

Yeah.  I’m just saying he would be the only und alumni I would consider since und doesn’t ever break ties.