2024 UND Football

[Oxbow6]

The UND FB 360 guys yesterday reviewed "the tight loss to South Dakota". What game were they watching? There's absolutely nothing tight about it. 

[shep]

39 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

The UND FB 360 guys yesterday reviewed "the tight loss to South Dakota". What game were they watching? There's absolutely nothing tight about it. 

But they also noted that UND's comeback came when the game was a 21 point deficit as though USD had pumped the brakes a bit.

 

[wheelsup]

I thought the 360 guys were on point this week.. all were clearly frustrated with the direction of the program.. Kelly was super vocal about it.  I’m looking forward to their year end wrap up

[F'n Hawks]

3 hours ago, wheelsup said:

I thought the 360 guys were on point this week.. all were clearly frustrated with the direction of the program.. Kelly was super vocal about it.  I’m looking forward to their year end wrap up

Kelly is so over it. The amount of times he said “I just want to win” was hilarious 

[1972]

On 11/19/2024 at 7:52 PM, Longtime fan said:

The best outcome would be if Und wouldn’t have to fire bubba …just transfer him over to the alumni center.  

i was told by a very reliable source that they tried to do this last year, and Bubba declined

[andtheHomeoftheSIOUX!!]

3 minutes ago, 1972 said:

i was told by a very reliable source that they tried to do this last year, and Bubba declined

How can that possibly be squared with the (apparently) subsequent decision to extend him?  It makes no sense.

[90siouxfan]

11 minutes ago, HoopsFan03 said:

Imagine if Shannon was still on the pod…..

Is Shannon voicing his opinion anywhere these days? Maybe he is key to getting the program over this mess.

[Sioux94]

8 hours ago, HoopsFan03 said:

Imagine if Shannon was still on the pod…..

I miss Shannon on the podcast, but this would have been a rough year for him hearing all the talk about Bubba. 

[ND-fan]

Everyone is talking about losing players but I think greater loss could be in the coaching staff after the season. It’s my understanding there is large number of already coaching changes and will create number good openings for young coaches to move up in coaching ranks. We are also talking coaching change the loss of better coaches is probably going to happen. If this happens then these coaches leaving will have number of players to follow. We saw it with Freud number players either followed or went else where. Administration will need to address the future program with finish of the season.  This means if Bubba will be retained or if choose to retain Bubba then I believe keep coaching staff in place will require new defensive coordinator and probably several other defense coaches let go and new defensive coordinator ready to be put in place and real change philosophy on how we Play defense and real commitment to find players that will be of  caliber to play in Valley conference. A failure of this will be continue decline in the program. If administration tries to kick the can down the road we will just continue to be in bubble where everyone bitching and taking shots at the program. Administration finally take stand and put forth  plan and what is expected from the program.I think a lot of people here grade on win and losses but administration does grade on wins and loses but also other important measures like student GPA, community service, fund raising, alumni relations, program having little player problem in the community, and attendance at games compared to peer schools. This has to be established so everyone knows why things are done but then puts more pressure on administration because the public can voice their concerns and what changes can be made. I do think changes need to be made but problem we have here is administration has been kicking can down the road we have master facility plan but we don’t have master plan on direction of the programs in athletic department goals they expect to be achieved by program if we’re getting close or not meeting goals but this then gives public something to also measure administration.. 

Edited November 22, 2024 by ND-fan

[NDRA]

7 hours ago, ND-fan said:

Everyone is talking about losing players but I think greater loss could be in the coaching staff after the season. It’s my understanding there is large number of already coaching changes and will create number good openings for young coaches to move up in coaching ranks. We are also talking coaching change the loss of better coaches is probably going to happen. If this happens then these coaches leaving will have number of players to follow. We saw it with Freud number players either followed or went else where. Administration will need to address the future program with finish of the season.  This means if Bubba will be retained or if choose to retain Bubba then I believe keep coaching staff in place will require new defensive coordinator and probably several other defense coaches let go and new defensive coordinator ready to be put in place and real change philosophy on how we Play defense and real commitment to find players that will be of  caliber to play in Valley conference. A failure of this will be continue decline in the program. If administration tries to kick the can down the road we will just continue to be in bubble where everyone bitching and taking shots at the program. Administration finally take stand and put forth  plan and what is expected from the program.I think a lot of people here grade on win and losses but administration does grade on wins and loses but also other important measures like student GPA, community service, fund raising, alumni relations, program having little player problem in the community, and attendance at games compared to peer schools. This has to be established so everyone knows why things are done but then puts more pressure on administration because the public can voice their concerns and what changes can be made. I do think changes need to be made but problem we have here is administration has been kicking can down the road we have master facility plan but we don’t have master plan on direction of the programs in athletic department goals they expect to be achieved by program if we’re getting close or not meeting goals but this then gives public something to also measure administration.. 

Must have had a few before writing that one.  

[Shawn-O]

On 11/19/2024 at 8:11 PM, iramurphy said:

I don’t see Bubba moving to the Alumni office. I don’t see their fundraisers making $250,000 per year and they aren’t going to pay an untested fundraiser more than the people who have been doing a great job fundraising for a number of years. Those people need to be high energy, dynamic personalities that know when and how to “close the deal”.  I don’t see that as one of his strengths. Having said that there are some where his personality might be perfect. 
Lastly, if you have an employee you need to let go, it’s not wise to keep them around. Just my opinion. 

Like when recruiting kids with their parents around the kitchen table?  Agreed, I don’t see that as one of his strengths either.  

[Sioux27]

On 11/22/2024 at 12:03 AM, ND-fan said:

Everyone is talking about losing players but I think greater loss could be in the coaching staff after the season. It’s my understanding there is large number of already coaching changes and will create number good openings for young coaches to move up in coaching ranks. We are also talking coaching change the loss of better coaches is probably going to happen. If this happens then these coaches leaving will have number of players to follow. We saw it with Freud number players either followed or went else where. Administration will need to address the future program with finish of the season.  This means if Bubba will be retained or if choose to retain Bubba then I believe keep coaching staff in place will require new defensive coordinator and probably several other defense coaches let go and new defensive coordinator ready to be put in place and real change philosophy on how we Play defense and real commitment to find players that will be of  caliber to play in Valley conference. A failure of this will be continue decline in the program. If administration tries to kick the can down the road we will just continue to be in bubble where everyone bitching and taking shots at the program. Administration finally take stand and put forth  plan and what is expected from the program.I think a lot of people here grade on win and losses but administration does grade on wins and loses but also other important measures like student GPA, community service, fund raising, alumni relations, program having little player problem in the community, and attendance at games compared to peer schools. This has to be established so everyone knows why things are done but then puts more pressure on administration because the public can voice their concerns and what changes can be made. I do think changes need to be made but problem we have here is administration has been kicking can down the road we have master facility plan but we don’t have master plan on direction of the programs in athletic department goals they expect to be achieved by program if we’re getting close or not meeting goals but this then gives public something to also measure administration.. 

One hour to read…..two hours to re-read.  

[UND Football Fan]

Since being in a legit FCS conference 

Muss

year W L PF  - PO   PF AVG PO AVG

2012 5-6 369-380 33.55 - 34.54

2013 3-8 262-371 23.82 - 33.73

Bubba

2014 5-7 191-314 15.92 - 26.17 

2015 7-4 309-283 28.09 - 25.73

2016 9-3 309-283 25.75 - 23.58

2017 3-8 277-381 25.18- 34.64

2018 6-5 293-249 26.64- 22.64

2019 7-5 319-342 26.25 - 28.5

* 2020 5-2 209-147 29.86 - 21

2021 5-6 269-223 24.46 - 20.27

2022 7-5 364-370 30.33 - 30.83

2023 7-5 377-315 31.42 - 26.25

split 2024

2024 5-2 243-180 34.7 - 25.71

2024 0-5  127-191 25.4 - 38.2

2024 5-7  370-371 30.83- 30.82

 

[wheelsup]

What are all your headings on the columns? 

[UND Football Fan]

I put in info then it got wonky, with was PF PO and PF avg and PO avg

 

point for (PF) points opponent (PO)

[wheelsup]

Thanks.. more confirmation that bubbas defense has sucked pretty much every year.. with a couple mediocre years

[SiouxFan100]

Season is over but the ugliness will continue 

[FSSD]

Nah, season is over...  so little to care about.  I've flushed the season already.  This is my last post about the 2024 UND football season.  

[forksandspoons]

This season absolutely sucked the life out of me. Cared way too much when I should have known from the start this is how it would go. Don’t think I’ll even care during the off-season when I typically would spend a lot of time following along. Change at the top is needed, but I have no faith in Chaves’ ability to hire anyway, so I have no hope.

[UND Football Fan]

2 years ago we beat USD, head coach on hot seat. USD gets a good OC and some offensive staff and they win a share of the conference title. Major changes are needed PERIOD!

[AJS]

Loss by loss, nap by nap! If you think Bubba actually cares, see this quote. Collect those checks, Bubba! Burn it to the ground! 

[Kab]

2 minutes ago, AJS said:

Loss by loss, nap by nap! If you think Bubba actually cares, see this quote. Collect those checks, Bubba! Burn it to the ground! 

This proves he won’t resign unless they ask him to 

[UND-FB-FAN]

9 minutes ago, AJS said:

Loss by loss, nap by nap! If you think Bubba actually cares, see this quote. Collect those checks, Bubba! Burn it to the ground! 

 

6 minutes ago, Kab said:

This proves he won’t resign unless they ask him to 

Bubba legacy is burning down more and more, moment by moment. Not surprising considering the exodus of players and coaches over the past year …. And if he stays, the exodus this December will be unprecedented. 

[UND-FB-FAN]

18 minutes ago, UND Football Fan said:

2 years ago we beat USD, head coach on hot seat. USD gets a good OC and some offensive staff and they win a share of the conference title. Major changes are needed PERIOD!

UND tried that this year, and things got worse. The head of the defensive staff and the head of the team didn’t change, and well, here we are ..

[UND Football Fan]

I was referring to fix the major problem (knowing Bubba was staying)  which was defense. He did not address that. Offense was not the major issue. USD’s issue was offense, they had a solid D.