Popular Post SIOUXFAN97 Posted January 27 Popular Post Share Posted January 27 17 minutes ago, ksixpack said: The debate is not whether or not we blame Jake for leaving. The point is how did we get to this place? What's that say about our program here? We have a former player and kid that grew up in GF bolt to our biggest rival to coach at the drop of an hat after just 2 weeks on the job. How does a UND alum and associate head coach leave to be a QB coach at another rival? How did we get to where we are now and become so irrelevant that our own are leaving in embarrassing fashion? I guarantee that would never happen in reverse. During the 90’s and 2000’s NDSU and SDSU were chasing us. Now we are chasing them in embarrassing fashion. And it not just football…we cannot compete with either of them in any sport we play…how did we get here? REA "agreement" might need more..... scrutiny. Follow the money 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux24/7 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 I thought bill chaves was going to be the guy. He’s not. New blood. This is a disaster. Still wasn’t excited about Landry. Hope Pike’s the choice but idk. Bad look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksixpack Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 4 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: REA "agreement" might need more..... scrutiny. Follow the money Because the Ralph and UND hockey makes money and doesn’t share it with other sports is how we got here? So what we need to do is set up a hockey team at NDSU and SDSU and have them sell out every game with 12,000 people and then we can compete with them again in other sports? Can we be a bit more logical here and a a bit less petty? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gundy1124 Posted January 27 Popular Post Share Posted January 27 21 minutes ago, ksixpack said: And it not just football…we cannot compete with either of them in any sport we play…how did we get here? Chaves. I recall him pretty much burying the EWU Athletic Department and UND overlooked that little detail. Lots told me he is really impressive in person.....never saw nor felt that from him. And now this pissante is setting UND Football back atleast 3-4 years, likely longer. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux94 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 1 hour ago, shep said: On Twitter Kelly (UND 360) is saying we could be losing Joe and Kirkwood too When it rains it pours, what a sh*t show! If Bubba stepped down at end of year he could have left with at least a little Goodwill. It's really starting to look like this will end pretty badly. October 14th feels like light years away at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Und246 Posted January 27 Popular Post Share Posted January 27 Not a good look for Jake when it comes to character. I am not sure he would have been any good but I am glad he is not joining our staff. Any form of commitment means nothing to him. Heritage and loyalties apparently mean nothing to him. I am glad he is in Fargo and not here. Time to move on. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOUND Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Money. Players can get good money to play and coaches are getting crazy money. If you’re coaching watching Schmidt make $600k and little SD guy now making north of $10 million at Bama, would that appeal to you making $60k with 3 young kids as an assistant? DeBoer coached with Bubba and Schmidt. These coaches are buddies. Why blame our assistants for leaving? Everyone on this site wants to keep our coaches but nobody wants to write checks. If we couldn’t recruit kids to GF before, we’re not going to compete with the NIL money when we’re offering a coupon good for a grinder at the Pepper or a medium pizza at Italian Moon each semester. The NCAA has created a mess and for schools like UND, the landscape is changing really fast. I don’t blame Bubba considering his budget, NIL money and trying to recruit players and coaches with a lot less money. How does he beat NDSU and field a competitive team with all of the constraints? It’s all about money now in every aspect. I’m a longtime UND fan and I’d never cheer for NDSU or SDSU, but if you paid me to do that…..? How much are we talking about? Greedy, crazy world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Chaves was doing the happy dance on suite level bubba had his iPhone on bright mode and we don’t have rb coach an oc or an ol coach isbmussman available 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 3 minutes ago, GOUND said: Money. Players can get good money to play and coaches are getting crazy money. If you’re coaching watching Schmidt make $600k and little SD guy now making north of $10 million at Bama, would that appeal to you making $60k with 3 young kids as an assistant? DeBoer coached with Bubba and Schmidt. These coaches are buddies. Why blame our assistants for leaving? Everyone on this site wants to keep our coaches but nobody wants to write checks. If we couldn’t recruit kids to GF before, we’re not going to compete with the NIL money when we’re offering a coupon good for a grinder at the Pepper or a medium pizza at Italian Moon each semester. The NCAA has created a mess and for schools like UND, the landscape is changing really fast. I don’t blame Bubba considering his budget, NIL money and trying to recruit players and coaches with a lot less money. How does he beat NDSU and field a competitive team with all of the constraints? It’s all about money now in every aspect. I’m a longtime UND fan and I’d never cheer for NDSU or SDSU, but if you paid me to do that…..? How much are we talking about? Greedy, crazy world. But we beat the Bison, and couldn’t beat teams we should have beaten. I get that NIL money is important, but they could have had a step up on the next tier of teams at the very least if they hadn’t crapped the bed after what should have been a momentum win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UND-FB-FAN Posted January 27 Popular Post Share Posted January 27 7 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: Chaves needs to do something now....... This is out of control I’m embarrassed for everyone involved. I won’t divulge anything specific right now, but circumstantially, this is incredibly embarrassing for UND football. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UND-FB-FAN Posted January 27 Popular Post Share Posted January 27 6 hours ago, Midwestern Hawk said: WTF is going on? Can you imagine being an offensive player for UND tonight? Bubba is too good of a man to have it end like this. Something is really wrong. In the span of 4 month, we went from hanging 49 on the Bison to having nobody want to be responsible for the offense under Bubba. Bubba is a good man but not a great coach. UND / Chaves hung on too long. The central themes on this board, although farfetched, misinformed, and laughable at times, are usually overall spot-on given the passion and love for UND. Bubba has been strung out way too damn long, should’ve been fired in 2017, 2018, or 2021, but now, here we are: this is the result. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kab Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Wonder if Jake had a conversation with Danny about what’s going on at UND and Bubba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-FB-FAN Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 5 hours ago, UND1983 said: The only little hiccup is that he took the UND job last week. But anyone who knows Jake isn't surprised, put it that way Sure, but this is an indictment on both UND and Jake Landry, and definitely more so the former. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-FB-FAN Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 5 hours ago, Kab said: Is bubba just stubborn or incompetent Both. Reputation tarnished as he exits from UND this year, either before the season or after. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxFan100 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Did this really happen. Not happy about UND athletics right now. Wow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMSioux Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 53 minutes ago, Kab said: Wonder if Jake had a conversation with Danny about what’s going on at UND and Bubba That would have happened before the interview and him accepting the job. Now we know that everything that he said after accepting the job was lies and hypocrisy. No spin zone. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 I guess Chaves is gonna sit back take a look at everything I think a little bit send Marty out to shovel the steps off and maybe salt the steps and then take some more and then evaluate everything 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Sue Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 8 hours ago, LH Golfer said: Best thing to happen would be for the HC to announce his retirement. I am not so sure…how many players would stick around while the AD looks for both positions? It would be a gamble either way… one opening or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 And to think we were going to extend an invite to his dad to join the dlub this is on bubba and chaves 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Just emailed the REA about reducing my # of season tickets #plentyofgoodseatsstillavailable 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longtime fan Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 8 hours ago, Irish said: I'm frustrated too - But I don't blame Bubba as much as the AD - Bubba is always going to be Bubba. To extend him after a 5-6 season shows how much the Athletic Department values excellence. We have had weak leadership from the AD and the UND administration for far too long. Overall this is as low as I have seen the overall athletic programs. Chavez deserves a ton of blame yes but it was very apparent bubba was not cut out to be a head coach even during his Duluth days. He was hired here because he was an ex UNDer and would accept low pay to stay forever. Not because of his great track record. Chavez can’t be blamed for hiring him. Why would Danny leave now? Chavez? Danny bleeds Kelly green. He knows that sticking around Bubba gets him absolutely nowhere. Assistants have to move on from this bubba clown show to further themselves. Sure pay is the most obvious reason why people go elsewhere but Danny was fine with it for as long as he was here. He made a great move to leave bubba and learn the correct way of coaching. He left bubba not Chavez imo As for Landry ….he can stick it. Going to “that college” after committing to UND just weeks before speaks a lot about his character. Sorry to all that know him but this is a very bad look for him. I wasn’t that excited about Landry but what a low blow to your former team and town. Now what ex-UNDer is going to accept the job? My thoughts on bubba and Chavez are on par to a movie from 1994 that starred Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniel’s 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 2 hours ago, CMSioux said: That would have happened before the interview and him accepting the job. Now we know that everything that he said after accepting the job was lies and hypocrisy. No spin zone. Disappointed Jake left....yes. Hypocrisy......no. My phone blew up last night at the Ralph from my SU insider buddies. This isn’t complicated. Better program. Better career upside. Better pay. It is all about Bidenomics. Amitite?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 UND has gone so deep with the inbreeding from a coach hiring standpoint over the years who on the outside of any quality would want to apply. Like having a family business and you're the only one working there that isn't family. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Now it sounds like we are losing Kirkwood and our line coach who we got left Sam King lol maybe the special teams coach can Kal plays as we all know how he does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux24/7 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 I woke up and am still pissed. Billy’s going to just go around acting like this is fine. Hockey beat Denver so the athletic department is right where he wants it to be. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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