Oxbow6 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 21 minutes ago, yzerman19 said: My comment on 22 is based on what I saw last summer vs what I saw this season. He was in the wrong role with wrong linemates. I think he’s vastly more talented than he was able to showcase. When you’re in that spot you get torn because you don’t want to look like a quitter (especially when you did get ice time) but you also want to ensure you have the ability to develop to your potential and are aligned with the staff. This.... It took watching 22 play for about 15 minutes of ice time early on to see his skill level was completely different than almost everyone on the team. The fact he was a 4th line center late in the season on a team that struggled to score 5x5 is absurd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 36 minutes ago, yzerman19 said: My comment on 22 is based on what I saw last summer vs what I saw this season. He was in the wrong role with wrong linemates. I think he’s vastly more talented than he was able to showcase. When you’re in that spot you get torn because you don’t want to look like a quitter (especially when you did get ice time) but you also want to ensure you have the ability to develop to your potential and are aligned with the staff. Who were the right linemates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey23 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 14 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: This.... It took watching 22 play for about 15 minutes of ice time early on to see his skill level was completely different than almost everyone on the team. The fact he was a 4th line center late in the season on a team that struggled to score 5x5 is absurd. The problem I think is that if you have Blake, Gaber, and McLaughlin out together it was fun to watch...when they had the puck, but not so much when they didn't have the puck because they didn't really have the ability(strength) to get it back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJS Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 5 minutes ago, tnt said: Who were the right linemates? Anyone but 11 & 13? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneySIOUX Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 1 minute ago, petey23 said: The problem I think is that if you have Blake, Gaber, and McLaughlin out together it was fun to watch...when they had the puck, but not so much when they didn't have the puck because they didn't really have the ability(strength) to get it back. I don't have concern that they can't get it back, but that they'll need to get back into position and avoid a rush if they miss on a pass or lose a puck battle. Gaber and Blake are pretty good at getting back into a play when they need to and can dig out a puck from the corner just fine, but those three tend to shade to their offense end, for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJS Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 Haider - G - Clarkson to the portal. 6'3", NSH Pick, Solid numbers. Originally from MN. Is this the new #1 Goalie target? 1A 1B with Persson? @stoneySIOUX what do we think? Excited about this one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 19 minutes ago, tnt said: Who were the right linemates? I feel 10 was somewhat limited in his potential production this season although you knew his ceiling. It was pretty clear early on the top 6 "skill" guys were 8 9 10 17 22 26. 9 8 26 10 22 17 Take some lumps early. Let them build chemistry. Would have been much better off with this from day 1 than throwing golf balls at center ice and grouping lines that way all season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneySIOUX Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, AJS said: Haider - G - Clarkson to the portal. 6'3", NSH Pick, Solid numbers. Originally from MN. Is this the new #1 Goalie target? 1A 1B with Persson? @stoneySIOUX what do we think? Excited about this one. I remember hearing about him a couple years ago when Clarkson was a decent team. Numbers look good to me. Love the size. I think I'd give a slight edge to Persson simply because he's familiar with the NCHC, but Haider wouldn't suck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzerman19 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 22 needs to be creating. I like him with Gaber more than I like Blake with Gaber. Gaber is an elite finisher. 22 is an elite playmaker. Blake can do both, but he strikes me as a difficult player to play with in terms of how he reads the ice and attacks. It’s kinda unconventional and the result of his individual gifts. That is likely part of what makes him special in that he’s hard to manage defensively because of it, but that also makes him hard to play with as a line mate. Kid is rookie of the year, I’m not knocking him at all, and I could be wrong, but anyway, back to the portal. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 20 minutes ago, AJS said: Haider - G - Clarkson to the portal. 6'3", NSH Pick, Solid numbers. Originally from MN. Is this the new #1 Goalie target? 1A 1B with Persson? @stoneySIOUX what do we think? Excited about this one. Clarkson Entrepreneurship major ... we've got that ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 10 minutes ago, yzerman19 said: 22 needs to be creating. 22 is a setter. He needs a getter and a shooter around him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 1 minute ago, The Sicatoka said: 22 is a setter. He needs a getter and a shooter around him. 10 getter 17 shooter this past season Next season of guys on roster.....26 22 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 I'd put 21 on a wing beside 22, with 17. Getter, setter, shooter. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 14 minutes ago, stoneySIOUX said: I remember hearing about him a couple years ago when Clarkson was a decent team. Numbers look good to me. Love the size. I think I'd give a slight edge to Persson simply because he's familiar with the NCHC, but Haider wouldn't suck Playing goalie at the X in the Minnesota State Tournament as an 8th grader is something most of us couldn't have pulled off... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 12 hours ago, crb1 said: Gaber coming back for his senior year. 11 hours ago, AlphaMikeFoxtrot said: How is the news being received on the infamous Facebook group? While I'm happy about this news, let's just say the ring-kissing over there has reached epic proportions in the last 24 hours. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 30 minutes ago, stoneySIOUX said: I don't have concern that they can't get it back, but that they'll need to get back into position and avoid a rush if they miss on a pass or lose a puck battle. Gaber and Blake are pretty good at getting back into a play when they need to and can dig out a puck from the corner just fine, but those three tend to shade to their offense end, for sure. Heard an NHL guy yesterday say how hard it is to get young guys to realize that they won't be sacrificing putting up numbers by coming back hard and covering in the defensive end. He said once they do realize that they can transition from that and it won't hurt their numbers they start to fall in line. Of course it would be nice to have guys that aren't worried as much about numbers as they are about doing what's necessary to win, but especially at the NHL level, guys are playing to impress and get that next big contract. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iluvdebbies Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, tnt said: Heard an NHL guy yesterday say how hard it is to get young guys to realize that they won't be sacrificing putting up numbers by coming back hard and covering in the defensive end. He said once they do realize that they can transition from that and it won't hurt their numbers they start to fall in line. Of course it would be nice to have guys that aren't worried as much about numbers as they are about doing what's necessary to win, but especially at the NHL level, guys are playing to impress and get that next big contract. Yep.....lots of offense can be created from defense. (9-8-16) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 12 minutes ago, MafiaMan said: Playing goalie at the X in the Minnesota State Tournament as an 8th grader is something most of us couldn't have pulled off... That's a trick. Hey, read his Clarkson page (I linked it) and see who recruited him. Which of those needs a two-year goalie solution right now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 8 minutes ago, tnt said: ... guys are playing to impress and get that next big contract. Know what impresses scouts? Not being a half stride late and stopping your coverage guy from an easy backdoor tap in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iluvdebbies Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 9 minutes ago, tnt said: Heard an NHL guy yesterday say how hard it is to get young guys to realize that they won't be sacrificing putting up numbers by coming back hard and covering in the defensive end. He said once they do realize that they can transition from that and it won't hurt their numbers they start to fall in line. Of course it would be nice to have guys that aren't worried as much about numbers as they are about doing what's necessary to win, but especially at the NHL level, guys are playing to impress and get that next big contract. Yep.....lots of offense can be created from defense. (9-8-16) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXELEVENS Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 18 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: I'd put 21 on a wing beside 22, with 17. Getter, setter, shooter. I like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, SIOUXELEVENS said: I like it What's hidden in my 21-22-17 notion besides getter-setter-shooter is that it gets some beef out there, and a net front guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iluvdebbies Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 James needs linemates who are willing to give him the puck when he's flying through the neutral zone....I haven't seen Gaber willingly to do that....Blake and Schmaltz would be a good combination with him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXELEVENS Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 26-8-28 seemed to work very well together 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scpa0305 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 48 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: Clarkson Entrepreneurship major ... we've got that ... I think I like the looks of this tendy more than the Miami goalie. Also, Joey Larson (NMU) entered portal after one good year. Clearly some big school after him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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