2024 Recruiting

[UND Football Fan]

My novice guess Deng Deng is more of a deep threat or simpler route runner. Unless he can develop better footwork and learn how to get separation from d-backs. 
 

 

[UND-FB-FAN]

12 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

The film I've seen of Deng Deng shows he has a long loping stride, not short-choppy steps like Belquist. Is he going to get open with that stride? 

Last "lopers" I recall are Toivanen and Maag. It worked for them I guess. 

 

5 minutes ago, UND Football Fan said:

My novice guess Deng Deng is more of a deep threat or simpler route runner. Unless he can develop better footwork and learn how to get separation from d-backs. 
 

 

True freshman receiver, will take time to learn the game (plays, route running, connection with ? QB, etc.), but at that position, can get on the field early with his athleticism. Will he fun to see how he develops with “new” strength and conditioning program.

[The Sicatoka]

4 minutes ago, UND Football Fan said:

My novice guess Deng Deng is more of a deep threat or simpler route runner. Unless he can develop better footwork and learn how to get separation from d-backs. 

He does cover ground with that stride. And he's tall, so an end zone jump ball threat. 

[Bison06]

14 hours ago, CMSioux said:

Not a great example, but your point is well taken. Carson is known only as one of the biggest busts in NFL history. Not happy about it as he seems to be a nice person. 

This site is the only place on the planet that thinks the above statement is true.

There isn’t a single objective statistic you can point to that puts him anywhere near the discussion of “bust”.

[The Sicatoka]

Wentz has to have one of the best "dollars paid per snap played" in NFL history. Credit him for making that bank. 

[The Sicatoka]

Who of the 28 inbound on that list could step in and play this fall? 

The WVSU DB transfers seem too obvioius. 

[Siouxperman8]

2 hours ago, Dustin said:

I doubt that they are ok with status quo.  More likely scenario is that they can't snag the players that would make a difference there.

I think this every time it is said that we don't recruit the right athletes/body types for DE and OLB.  I think we do recruit them, we just haven't been able to land them. 

[geaux_sioux]

1 hour ago, UND Football Fan said:

My novice guess Deng Deng is more of a deep threat or simpler route runner. Unless he can develop better footwork and learn how to get separation from d-backs. 
 

 

Fade, post, corner. That’s all he needs.  Get the db on one shoulder and space on the other and throw to the open side. 

[geaux_sioux]

59 minutes ago, Bison06 said:

This site is the only place on the planet that thinks the above statement is true.

There isn’t a single objective statistic you can point to that puts him anywhere near the discussion of “bust”.

It is strange though how he was almost an MVP lock pre acl to can’t keep a starting job. But the good portion of his career takes him out of the Jamarcus Russel discussion on its own. 

[geaux_sioux]

53 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

Who of the 28 inbound on that list could step in and play this fall? 

The WVSU DB transfers seem too obvioius. 

Probably an OLB unless we bring in solid transfers.

[The Sicatoka]

4 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

Probably an OLB unless we bring in solid transfers.

https://fightinghawks.com/news/2023/12/20/north-dakota-football-adds-28-during-early-signing-period.aspx 

That list only shows two incoming LBs and one played DB in HS and is under 200 pounds.

I guess you're saying Packson Bettis is a guy to watch. 

[sioux24/7]

1 hour ago, The Sicatoka said:

Who of the 28 inbound on that list could step in and play this fall? 

The WVSU DB transfers seem too obvioius. 

Langden College

[Bison06]

12 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

It is strange though how he was almost an MVP lock pre acl to can’t keep a starting job. But the good portion of his career takes him out of the Jamarcus Russel discussion on its own. 

http://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/positions/qb
 

Depending on what you consider a comparable draft pick(top 5 picks are fair to me), he wouldn’t even be in the top 10 for his own position all time, arguably in the last 20 years even. Calling him an all time bust is laughable in my view.

[Bison06]

22 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

It is strange though how he was almost an MVP lock pre acl to can’t keep a starting job. But the good portion of his career takes him out of the Jamarcus Russel discussion on its own. 

It’s true, don’t know what changed in his head once he got hurt, but he hasn’t been able to find that magic again that’s for sure.

[fightingsioux4life]

34 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

It is strange though how he was almost an MVP lock pre acl to can’t keep a starting job. But the good portion of his career takes him out of the Jamarcus Russel discussion on its own. 

That injury might have ended his career if it had happened three decades earlier. But even with modern medicine, I think it limited his long-term potential as an NFL quarterback.

But an all-time bust? Nope, not even close. The Ryan Leafs of the world accomplished absolutely nothing. You cannot say that about Wentz.

[Bison06]

4 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

That injury might have ended his career if it had happened two decades ago. But even with modern medicine, I think it limited his long-term potential as an NFL quarterback.

But an all-time bust? Nope, not even close. The Ryan Leaf's of the world accomplished absolutely nothing. You cannot say that about Wentz.

I count 15 top 5 picks since 2002 that Carson has had a better career than.

[fightingsioux4life]

Just now, Bison06 said:

I count 15 top 5 picks since 2002 that Carson has had a better career than.

I believe that; there have been some big busts in the Top 5 of the first round over the years.

[SiouxFan100]

Another su thread

ugh 

[geaux_sioux]

2 hours ago, Bison06 said:

http://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/positions/qb
 

Depending on what you consider a comparable draft pick(top 5 picks are fair to me), he wouldn’t even be in the top 10 for his own position all time, arguably in the last 20 years even. Calling him an all time bust is laughable in my view.

The only time to argue he’s an all time busy is when looking to piss off bison fans who take themselves too seriously like most of bisonville.

[Sioux>Bison]

5 hours ago, skateshattrick said:

Add Jonathan Toews. Michael Jordan was famously shown wearing his jersey. I doubt any athletes from other sports have ever worn a Carson Wentz jersey or any of the other practice squad players from NDSU. Hockey is also much bigger internationally than football, so hockey players are known not only in Canada and the US, but Russia, Sweden, and other European countries. 

Are you really trying to argue whether football or hockey is more popular???? Internationally??? Who cares outside of the US or even Canada. NHL hockey even finishes 4th behind baseball and the NBA……. Woof

Wentz may be a bust but everyone who follows football knows who he is. I give it to you that most sport fans couldn’t name where TJ oshie, Toews, or wentz even went to school.

[Sioux>Bison]

16 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

ask 1000 fans of all sports who they know more.....tj oshie or carson wentz.....it won't even be close.

Wentz, thanks for proving my point

[DL Sioux]

R E C R U I T I N G !

[Hawkster]

7 hours ago, Bison06 said:

This site is the only place on the planet that thinks the above statement is true.

There isn’t a single objective statistic you can point to that puts him anywhere near the discussion of “bust”.

Now how about number of injuries incurred per quarter played?   He was constantly hurt in high school, college and the pros.  In reality the Bison made Wentz look good and not the other way around.

[AJS]

2 hours ago, DL Sioux said:

R E C R U I T I N G !

That would be nice if there was actual recruiting news to talk about. 

[CMSioux]

High school recruits need to be built up.