SiouxBoys Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 14 minutes ago, Esoteric said: Has Kleven signed a contract? Would not blame him the way the league has treated him. Let's take a look at Kleven's stats throughout his career. 2017-18 Fargo Davies Games Played: 27 Penalty Minutes: 54 2018-19 USNTDP Games Played: 52 Penalty Minutes: 96 2019-20 USNTDP Games Played: 45 Penalty Minutes: 63 2020-23 UND Games Played: 95 Penalty Minutes: 214 At some point people have to stop claiming the league is out to get him and just realize this is who he is as a player. Always has been and always will. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esoteric Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 5 minutes ago, SiouxBoys said: Let's take a look at Kleven's stats throughout his career. 2017-18 Fargo Davies Games Played: 27 Penalty Minutes: 54 2018-19 USNTDP Games Played: 52 Penalty Minutes: 96 2019-20 USNTDP Games Played: 45 Penalty Minutes: 63 2020-23 UND Games Played: 95 Penalty Minutes: 214 At some point people have to stop claiming the league is out to get him and just realize this is who he is as a player. Always has been and always will. It is not that simply. The league fails to enforce embellishment and acting. There are calls that are overlooked but the sight is on Kleven. If a player stays down for over 10 seconds, the league needs to enforce a required concussion protocol in the locker room before the player returns. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxBoys Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 5 minutes ago, Esoteric said: It is not that simply. The league fails to enforce embellishment and acting. There are calls that are overlooked but the sight is on Kleven. If a player stays down for over 10 seconds, the league needs to enforce a required concussion protocol in the locker room before the player returns. Nobody is going to argue against this. It won't change his penalty stats. Him having close to 100 penalty minutes in one season of Juniors was not a case of him being targeted. He has always played right on the line, often times going way over the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 1 hour ago, brianvf said: Company? Matteo is such a head-scratcher to me. Such a great, promising freshman season for him...but then to go from 21 pts down to only 3 pts as a sophomore. And he still played 25 games this season. Got buried behind 10 27 19 28 11 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXELEVENS Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 Only Berry knows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jk Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 10 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: Got buried behind 10 27 19 28 11 13 11 and 13 didn't exactly see much ice in their games either. 11 had 6 points in 27 games and was +3. 13 had 6 points in 27 games and was +4. 18 had 3 points in 26 games and was -5. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianvf Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 11 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: Got buried behind 10 27 19 28 11 13 And that's the crazy thing too...the players that you'd expect Matteo would have beaten out for playing time like Ness & Albrecht...both those guys had double the points as Matteo in the same amount of games. And you know they were getting bottom 6 minutes as well. Either 18 was incredibly snake-bitten or he just didn't have it this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianvf Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 1 minute ago, jk said: 11 and 13 didn't exactly see much ice in their games either. 11 had 6 points in 27 games and was +3. 13 had 6 points in 27 games and was +4. 18 had 3 points in 26 games and was -5. Haha, you beat me by a minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 1 hour ago, scpa0305 said: Berry has to adapt to the newer style of play. Plain and simple. He has to let the skill players play and deal with some of the D breakdowns/learning curve. He has a couple skill guys coming in, they both have to play. If we stick with this chip and chase style of play I’m afraid he won’t make it another year or two. The odds of Berry seeing the light are around zero percent. Coaches are notoriously stubborn with their systems. And other than this board and the fanbase there is no demand for excellence in our athletic department. Be prepared for more of the same. Sadly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 Guess we just don't need 18. Can we get 10 and/or 19 back another year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianvf Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: Guess we just don't need 18. I'd take him back in a heartbeat. He has skill. Just wasn't his year, I guess. Or something was up. Who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxFanSince1990 Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, brianvf said: I'd take him back in a heartbeat. He has skill. Just wasn't his year, I guess. Or something was up. Who knows. Something was going on. Attitude, injury, confidence, or didn’t buy into the “culture”… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 Would have been nice for 8 9 10 17 18 26 to be the top 6 from day 1. Develop lines and chemistry. You'd more than likely have 5 coming back. Now you might only have 3. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 21 minutes ago, jk said: 11 and 13 didn't exactly see much ice in their games either. 11 had 6 points in 27 games and was +3. 13 had 6 points in 27 games and was +4. 18 had 3 points in 26 games and was -5. Hain was a -10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusinessSiouxt Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 9 hours ago, jk said: 11 and 13 didn't exactly see much ice in their games either. 11 had 6 points in 27 games and was +3. 13 had 6 points in 27 games and was +4. 18 had 3 points in 26 games and was -5. who else was on the ice with 18? +/- are not owned by a player, they are a function of who else was on the ice, both UND and opponents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksl_sioux4ever Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 2 hours ago, BusinessSiouxt said: who else was on the ice with 18? +/- are not owned by a player, they are a function of who else was on the ice, both UND and opponents. 18 8 28 vs cc both nights Weekend before that was 18 22 17 vs cloud at home both nights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXELEVENS Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 Shout out to 4,6,18,20 and 21 forget about the portal and work hard in the off season and show everybody what your made of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxweet Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 15 hours ago, scpa0305 said: You mean he works really hard…I wouldn’t say he was one of our best Fs. Fs need to be productive, he really isn’t whatsoever. I wouldn't completely agree with this. What about a checking line that is designed to shut down the top line of other teams? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scpa0305 Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 14 minutes ago, siouxweet said: I wouldn't completely agree with this. What about a checking line that is designed to shut down the top line of other teams? My point is that he wasn’t one of our best forwards. He definitely works hard though, I agree with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJS Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 Updated ideal off-season for the Forwards. • Lose: 10, 13, 19 • Keep / Return: 17, 28 • Incoming: Emerson, Perron 15F, replace grit w/ skill. Don’t worry, there are guys currently on roster who can play that shutdown roll. Overall, much more talented group. Also, this would handcuff the Coaches a bit with having to actually play talent. Give them less room for questionable lines, etc. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scpa0305 Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 43 minutes ago, SIOUXELEVENS said: Shout out to 4,6,18,20 and 21 forget about the portal and work hard in the off season and show everybody what your made of. Reading the schloss article this morning makes me hate the portal even more. Talking about picking up 1-2 D and potentially a F…are we trying to hide the fact we’re pushing out good young players? Develop the players we have. Open spot on the top pp for a transfer? We’re bringing in multiple skilled Dmen…we have Moore who should get that opp. Not sure what’s going on anymore. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXELEVENS Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 Easier to just grab players from the portal then coach the players you , meaning Berry and crew , recruited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scpa0305 Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 I didn’t see the transfer portal as a negative going into this year, but I do now. The chance to get an old skater for a year is enticing, but I think it’s a significant negative long term and will hurt our recruiting of higher end players. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 25 minutes ago, scpa0305 said: Reading the schloss article this morning makes me hate the portal even more. Talking about picking up 1-2 D and potentially a F…are we trying to hide the fact we’re pushing out good young players? Develop the players we have. Open spot on the top pp for a transfer? We’re bringing in multiple skilled Dmen…we have Moore who should get that opp. Not sure what’s going on anymore. You know who was not mentioned in that article? 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 20 minutes ago, scpa0305 said: I didn’t see the transfer portal as a negative going into this year, but I do now. The chance to get an old skater for a year is enticing, but I think it’s a significant negative long term and will hurt our recruiting of higher end players. The portal should be used to plug holes that come up every once in a while, not as a substitute for recruiting and developing your own players. Despite all the upheaval in collegiate athletics the past couple of seasons, that remains the heart and soul of every successful program. If Berry and company cannot do that, it will be time to move on. Next season is huge for this coaching staff and the program as a whole. The early 1990's were ugly and I have no wish to relive them. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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