UND @ Youngstown 10/8/22

[iramurphy]

14 hours ago, Nodak78 said:

Check out this pass from Tommy to Maag at about the 4:05 mark.  The non verbal communication.  I love it when Tommy extends plays.  He is awesome this year especially.

As good of a pass play by a receiver and QB I have seen watching UND FB.  

[iramurphy]

17 hours ago, gfhockey said:

Bubba loses this game and the air deflates out of fan base again

Bubba isn’t playing.  This coaching staff is putting our players in a position to be successful. The opposing staff does the same for their team. Our successes and failures are primarily up to the players. I don’t ever recall teammates blaming our coaches. 
The air needs to get into the fan base before it deflates. We have a room for improvement. 
As for the Kostich critics you have no clue. Our punter arrived cascade freshman and struggled to average 40 yds/punt. This year he is netting over 40yds per punt and has developed the ability to punt the “Aussie” style to pin teams inside their 20. Our kicker struggled to put KO in the end zone and now have been pretty consistent. Since he arrived he is much more consistent with his FGs. All punters will have a bad punt occasionally. All kickers will miss FGs or have a short KO. All KO and punt coverage will get burned occasionally. All long snappers will have a bad snap. The fact is, our special teams have steadily improved under Kostich. I also know some will blame him when players make a mistake. He has done a very good job. People often forget the importance of special teams. Count how many punts,  XPs, FGs, KOs, both offensively and defensively in each game. Thus far we have done well. The issue of potential injury to Siegel is legitimate. I assume coaches have weighed risk vs benefits. If he gets hurt, they made the wrong choice. If he breaks one or continues to get extra yards on returns then we got lucky. 
 

[fightingsioux4life]

3 minutes ago, iramurphy said:

Bubba isn’t playing.  This coaching staff is putting our players in a position to be successful. The opposing staff does the same for their team. Our successes and failures are primarily up to the players. I don’t ever recall teammates blaming our coaches.

Bubba and his staff recruited all of these players. Therefore, the buck stops with him. Not his assistants. And not the team captains. Based on this logic, Mussman should have gotten as much time as he wanted, when it was obvious the program was headed for Northern Colorado territory.

As for putting them in position to be successful, that is sometimes open to debate (like the 4th down play on our own 20 vs. NDSU last year). This team is showing signs of significant progress, but until they can put together a consistent performance on the road, they won't go far in the FCS playoffs, if they qualify.

6 minutes ago, iramurphy said:

The air needs to get into the fan base before it deflates. We have a room for improvement. 

Yeah, agree with you here. The Sioux Falls home loss in 2009 did a lot of damage to the reputation of the program. So did all those blowout losses in 2013.

7 minutes ago, iramurphy said:

 The issue of potential injury to Siegel is legitimate. I assume coaches have weighed risk vs benefits. If he gets hurt, they made the wrong choice. If he breaks one or continues to get extra yards on returns then we got lucky. 

I think you have to put your best athletes in important positions. And kickoff returns are important. I think it is worth the risk.

[UNDColorado]

11 hours ago, Nodak78 said:

His HS stats are amazing.  What sold me on Tommy is the Sam Houston game.  He was 3rd string QB.  Running the scout team.  True freshman not in the rotation to run the offense.  First string was injured.  Second string started injured in 2nd qtr.  Tommy played amazingly with no reps with first team.  UND beat Sammy.  Next morning I saw Bubba meeting a recruit.  I introduce myself.  Told that kid has ice in his veins.  To this day I believe Tommy is the smartest QB UND has ever had.  The opponent could drop a nuke and Tommy would be looking for the open receiver.  Just a bit of hyperbole.

I've been a fan ever since as well. Kid has stones and you can't teach that.

[Wright4UND]

18 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

Bubba and his staff recruited all of these players. Therefore, the buck stops with him. Not his assistants. And not the team captains. Based on this logic, Mussman should have gotten as much time as he wanted, when it was obvious the program was headed for Northern Colorado territory.

As for putting them in position to be successful, that is sometimes open to debate (like the 4th down play on our own 20 vs. NDSU last year). This team is showing signs of significant progress, but until they can put together a consistent performance on the road, they won't go far in the FCS playoffs, if they qualify.

Yeah, agree with you here. The Sioux Falls home loss in 2009 did a lot of damage to the reputation of the program. So did all those blowout losses in 2013.

I think you have to put your best athletes in important positions. And kickoff returns are important. I think it is worth the risk.

You have to remember that 2 of the defensive backs that would have played significant snaps transferred before this season.  Caleb Nelson and Sam Robertson would have helped a lot on depth at CB.  One of them would have started.  So the staff has been working to fill this gap.  Hopefully, the group continues to improve throughout the season. 

They showed some improvement in the Mo State game!  Hopefully they will continue to improve and the team will come home with a victory.

Heading into a bye week with a 4-2 record and SDSU would be huge!   Fans should be up to support the team for a huge game vs the #2 team!  Just win Baby!

[Hardcore Hawk]

23 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

I think you have to put your best athletes in important positions. And kickoff returns are important. I think it is worth the risk.

He's second in MVFC and 14 in the country in average return yards, he's been valuable putting us into good field position consistently. I think he'll bust one sooner rather than later

[Siouxperfan7]

Well, UND football is going to attempt something they haven't done since the 2018 season.  Win more than 1 read game in a season.  In the last 20 road games, UND is 4-16.  It's no secret about our struggles on the road.  It is still crazy how different this team plays on the road compard to at home.  Night and day. Every game this season seems like the newest biggest game of the year, but in this conference, it is true.  Need to get this win on the road.  Not just for the record, but for this team to believe they can win consistently on the road in this conference and that they are a contender this year.  

[iramurphy]

3 hours ago, fightingsioux4life said:

Bubba and his staff recruited all of these players. Therefore, the buck stops with him. Not his assistants. And not the team captains. Based on this logic, Mussman should have gotten as much time as he wanted, when it was obvious the program was headed for Northern Colorado territory.

As for putting them in position to be successful, that is sometimes open to debate (like the 4th down play on our own 20 vs. NDSU last year). This team is showing signs of significant progress, but until they can put together a consistent performance on the road, they won't go far in the FCS playoffs, if they qualify.

Yeah, agree with you here. The Sioux Falls home loss in 2009 did a lot of damage to the reputation of the program. So did all those blowout losses in 2013.

I think you have to put your best athletes in important positions. And kickoff returns are important. I think it is worth the risk.

Bubba and staff are ultimately responsible. I believe everyone knows that.
The fact is most fans knowledge of the game is what they learned in HS and what they hear from ESPN. Therefore every failure is the coaches fault and every success is the player. That is today’s culture. I don’t care what happened in 2009 or 2013. Just like the successes 20 years ago don’t keep fans in the stands. The Big Sky and MVFC Championships don’t matter anymore just like the 4th down botched play no longer matters. 
What matters to me is that we have a very young online that is developing quickly. We have an outstanding oline coach. (Buck stops at Bubba).  We have a young QB who no one thinks has a strong arm nor is a good athlete developing into a very good QB under Danny and with Bubba’s so called manage the game philosophy. We have slowly developed more depth and this staff has been able to find kids who are outstanding that other schools miss on. They are doing this despite the advantage our long time rival has with more resources, bigger fan base, and perennial national champions. If that wasn’t happening then Bubba wouldn’t be here. It gets old when early in the season people start up the replace coaches staff nonsense. It’s not going to happen in the middle of the season anyway. There were some interesting meetings over homecoming weekend. I guarantee that the folks whose primary contribution is to call for coaching change weren’t present. The folks there were more focused on moving the program forward and providing long term solutions to the needs of the FB team. 

[SiouxFan100]

Would be nice to get ahead by 7 or 49 and not look back

[UND Football Fan]

If I will guess, we may give up 10 early ( I hope not)  and settle in. Play well and may give up a late TD. UND wins 34-24.

[108498]

What radio station will have the football game tomorrow? The regular station has hockey tomorrow while football is playing.

[UND-FB-FAN]

On 10/6/2022 at 3:17 PM, gfhockey said:

Bubba loses this game and the air deflates out of fan base again

That would be the highest probable outcome, yes. 
 

History predicts the future. 
 

Hoping for the lottery on this one; better to be lucky than good. 

[Mama Sue]

Keep us posted iramurphy….nice to hear positive vibes 

[UND-FB-FAN]

9 hours ago, Siouxperfan7 said:

In the last 20 road games, UND is 4-16. 

Damn that’s awful. And UND still has apologizers? Wow. 
 

Right the ship, God dammit 

[UND-FB-FAN]

7 hours ago, iramurphy said:

Therefore every failure is the coaches fault and every success is the player.

This is actually true, though. Convince me otherwise. Players win the games and coaches lose them.
 

Many knowledgeable sources in high school, college and professional football have supported this and I believe it to be true. 

[UND-FB-FAN]

7 hours ago, iramurphy said:

Just like the successes 20 years ago don’t keep fans in the stands.

 University of Nebraska Husker football says otherwise …

[UND-FB-FAN]

1 hour ago, 108498 said:

What radio station will have the football game tomorrow? The regular station has hockey tomorrow while football is playing.

Typical bull$%!#. 
UND with its typical ass backwards !@#$. No attempt to compete with the big boys of the region (NDSU, SDSU, Minnesota, etc.).

.. emphasize a niche sport with minimal competition in an over-funded arena …  

[UND-FB-FAN]

7 hours ago, iramurphy said:

Bubba and staff are ultimately responsible. I believe everyone knows that.

This is true, but are they realistically held responsible? That is the key point, here. 

[SiouxFan100]

Omg

big game tomorrow 

dont worry

be happy

[homer]

Someone is on the ledge tonight.  Holy !@#$

[iramurphy]

1 hour ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

This is actually true, though. Convince me otherwise. Players win the games and coaches lose them.
 

Many knowledgeable sources in high school, college and professional football have supported this and I believe it to be true. 

Your “knowledgeable sources” aren’t paying attention then. My opinion is based on  HS, College and NFL experiences not someone else’s. Players and coaches are responsible for the successes and failures of plays, games and seasons. The responsibility varies at different times. But this thread is about the Youngstown game.  I believe our team will be well prepared and has a good chance of beating a good team on the road. 

[SIOUXFAN97]

win this game and the playoffs are right there.....

31-30 hawks

o mvp hoos

d mvp ncnaboe

let's get this road win!!!!!!!!!!

[ChrisUND1]

Get up.  It's Gameday!!!

[UND-FB-FAN]

6 hours ago, iramurphy said:

Players and coaches are responsible for the successes and failures of plays, games and seasons. The responsibility varies at different times.

We’re basically saying the same thing, then. 
 

Let’s hope UND’s coaches and players are ready for Youngstown State University. Need to win today’s game to raise the expectations.

[UND-FB-FAN]

7 hours ago, homer said:

Someone is on the ledge tonight.  Holy !@#$

It’s game day. I’ve taken a step back … for now. Let’s go Hawks - win the damn thing!